microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcsd

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Value of MCSD

McBain

2003-04-23, 4:23 pm

I've seen a lot of posts here and else where which would indicate that
an mcsd certification is not worth anything to most employers.

Given that an mcsd certification will not help one obtain employment
or help achieve an increase in salary, what is the point in spending
$500+ in getting the certification??

emg

2003-04-23, 5:23 pm

It can serve as a tie-breaker if you're in close competition with another
candidate for a position. After all, this is an employer's market, not a
job-seeker's market -- so any edge you can get is valuable.

Also, if you happen to work for one of those companies that are "certified
microsoft partners" (or whatever they're called) then those companies HAVE
to have X number of certs in their employee pool to maintain their status.
Getting certified might simply be a strategy to keep your job.

"McBain" <T> wrote in message
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> I've seen a lot of posts here and else where which would indicate that
> an mcsd certification is not worth anything to most employers.
>
> Given that an mcsd certification will not help one obtain employment
> or help achieve an increase in salary, what is the point in spending
> $500+ in getting the certification??

The Rock

2003-04-23, 6:23 pm

Normally, how many numbers of the certs in their employee pool to maintain
their MS partners status?
Where can I find this kind of information?
Thanks a lot!!!

"emg" <emgnospam> wrote in message
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> It can serve as a tie-breaker if you're in close competition with another
> candidate for a position. After all, this is an employer's market, not a
> job-seeker's market -- so any edge you can get is valuable.
>
> Also, if you happen to work for one of those companies that are "certified
> microsoft partners" (or whatever they're called) then those companies HAVE
> to have X number of certs in their employee pool to maintain their status.
> Getting certified might simply be a strategy to keep your job.
>
>
>
> "McBain" <T> wrote in message
> news

90eavsphc9dhmspkontqopjo
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> > I've seen a lot of posts here and else where which would indicate that
> > an mcsd certification is not worth anything to most employers.
> >
> > Given that an mcsd certification will not help one obtain employment
> > or help achieve an increase in salary, what is the point in spending
> > $500+ in getting the certification??
>
>

McBain

2003-04-24, 8:23 am

members.microsoft.com/partner/partnering/requirements

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:14:22 -0700, "The Rock" <therock@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Normally, how many numbers of the certs in their employee pool to maintain
>their MS partners status?
>Where can I find this kind of information?
>Thanks a lot!!!
>
>"emg" <emgnospam> wrote in message
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>> It can serve as a tie-breaker if you're in close competition with another
>> candidate for a position. After all, this is an employer's market, not a
>> job-seeker's market -- so any edge you can get is valuable.
>>
>> Also, if you happen to work for one of those companies that are "certified
>> microsoft partners" (or whatever they're called) then those companies HAVE
>> to have X number of certs in their employee pool to maintain their status.
>> Getting certified might simply be a strategy to keep your job.
>>
>>
>>
>> "McBain" <T> wrote in message
>> news

90eavsphc9dhmspkontqopjo
5ul2kr6nl@4ax.com...
>> > I've seen a lot of posts here and else where which would indicate that
>> > an mcsd certification is not worth anything to most employers.
>> >
>> > Given that an mcsd certification will not help one obtain employment
>> > or help achieve an increase in salary, what is the point in spending
>> > $500+ in getting the certification??
>>
>>
>

Vlad

2003-04-24, 10:23 am

It depends on many factors - country, company etc.
3 of my friends and myself got much better jobs and salaries after
certification. My salary before MCSD was $45K, after I obtained MCSD I found
the job with $86K. Now I'm a consultant with 40 hours a week paid at $60/h.
I spent about $2000 for MCSD certification and got it back within a very
short time. Now I'm on MCSD.NET track, passed all exams except 70-300. Even
if I will not get the money I spent for MCSD.NET certification I'm going to
be happy as well.
Vlad

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Capt

2003-04-24, 11:23 am

I've been an mcsd since the wossa track and It's never helped me at all as
the clients I work for look for proven experience.

Microsoft certifications never meant a lot in the past and nowadays it has
been totally undermined by the way 'exams' can be passed by anyone, even by
people who do not understand what software development is all about. The
only winners are the book publishers, websites, practice exam providers and
cheats who rip off the mugs stupid enough to buy their goods or services.

My advice - If your company pays for it, then do it. If not save your money
and have a good skiing holiday!

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peteshaw

2003-04-25, 2:23 pm

I don't think you're ever going to have an obvious case where someone
looks you straight in the face and says, "Well sir, we were only going
to pay you 60K, but now that I noticed your MCSD, we're going to make it
75K! Now sit down and lets have a cigar."

Its a credential, nothing more. If you pass all the tests then it
stands to reason you have a good working knowledge over a broad range of
topics. Or maybe you just spent a few long nights staring at
Transcender and have a good short term memory.

It certainly has a value, though. The question is how much? Well
that depends on you. Not as much as a college degree. More than a
training course.

For me, I have trouble studying on my own without a specific goal, and
working towards an MCSD provides a focus for learning. Plus I've been
doing this stuff for so long the material is easy.

BTW, I just passed my first test, VB Desktop, on Wednesday. Yippee!

--
"make things as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein

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Fluker

2003-04-28, 8:23 am

MCSD and now MCSD.NET has always made me respectable
within my organisation, and considering indian fees, it's always
worthwile to have it.(You can earn MCSD.NET in India, typically
with 2 weeks salary--Only exams).

Additionally, certification along with 6+ yrs of expereince, give
me the edge, so that I could walk in any organisation and get
a job if i want a change. That security more worthy then anything.

Best Regards,
FLu.
"peteshaw" <dbforums@avacal.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't think you're ever going to have an obvious case where someone
> looks you straight in the face and says, "Well sir, we were only going
> to pay you 60K, but now that I noticed your MCSD, we're going to make it
> 75K! Now sit down and lets have a cigar."
>
> Its a credential, nothing more. If you pass all the tests then it
> stands to reason you have a good working knowledge over a broad range of
> topics. Or maybe you just spent a few long nights staring at
> Transcender and have a good short term memory.
>
> It certainly has a value, though. The question is how much? Well
> that depends on you. Not as much as a college degree. More than a
> training course.
>
> For me, I have trouble studying on my own without a specific goal, and
> working towards an MCSD provides a focus for learning. Plus I've been
> doing this stuff for so long the material is easy.
>
> BTW, I just passed my first test, VB Desktop, on Wednesday. Yippee!
>
> --
> "make things as simple as possible, but no simpler" - Einstein
>
>
> Posted via http://dbforums.com

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