microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcsd - 70-300 Exam SOS !!!

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70-300 Exam SOS !!!

Mohan

2003-01-30, 11:23 pm

Hi all,

Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
this paper.

My employer beleives that I have all the required
Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise Web
applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
specific to .NET architecture.

And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
(and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
thought I'd go for it.

I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
following will be the key skill areas that I should take
care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)

1. MSF Model
2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
3. Database Modelling
4. Other Standards and Practises

Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300 followed
by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)

Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds more
insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)

If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a MS
S/W architect guy.

So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP. But
now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
be hired for our parent company in the US.

So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls guide
me in this regard.

If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com

Waiting for your valuable inputs,

Thanks and regards,
Mohan Kumar J.

Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM

I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want to
be a sw architect.

You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more one
exam about SQL
Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...

Bye
"Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> I totally agree.
>
> Greg
>
> "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> >
> > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET well
and just aiming to
> > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
your "real" skillset.
> >
> >
> > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or so
as my[co
lor=darkred]
> > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> > >
> > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise tests,
> > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> > >
> > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a[/color]
credit card. [colo
r=darkred]
> > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this[/color]
and gets[
color=darkred]
> > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,[/color]
practise
> > > tests etc.
> > >
> > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
couldn't
> > > afford to buy them)
> > >
> > > From where exactly should I start..
> > >
> > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> > >
> > > Thanks one and all,
> > >
> > > Mohan Kumar J.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Paulo Reichert

2003-01-31, 8:23 am

I'm preparing for this exam also.

The material I'm using is:

Books:
- UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object Modeling Language
(2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
- The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN 0201571684)
- .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to Deployment (ISBN
1861005911)
- Information Modeling and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)

MOC:
- 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF) Essentials
- 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
Architectures
- 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a Database Using Microsoft
Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect

I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.

On MSDN Library I found many articles that are helpful, so, it's worth of
reading.

I have also experience as software engineer/architect, doing it to many big
customers here in Italy.

Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for the exam, but as I work
with that, for me it prepares also to the real life working... :-)

Good luck with the exam and your new job.
Best regards,
Paulo

"Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
>
> Hi all,
>
> Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
> particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
> this paper.
>
> My employer beleives that I have all the required
> Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise Web
> applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
> doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
> right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
> specific to .NET architecture.
>
> And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
> (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
> Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
> thought I'd go for it.
>
> I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
> following will be the key skill areas that I should take
> care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
>
> 1. MSF Model
> 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
> 3. Database Modelling
> 4. Other Standards and Practises
>
> Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
> and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
> approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300 followed
> by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
>
> Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
> Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds more
> insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
>
> If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
> would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a MS
> S/W architect guy.
>
> So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP. But
> now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
> be hired for our parent company in the US.
>
> So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls guide
> me in this regard.
>
> If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
>
> Waiting for your valuable inputs,
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Mohan Kumar J.
>
>
> Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
> From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
> Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
>
>
>
> I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want to
> be a sw architect.
>
> You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more one
> exam about SQL
> Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
>
> Bye
> "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > I totally agree.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> > >
> > > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET well
> and just aiming to

> > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
> your "real" skillset.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or so
> as my

> > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> > > >
> > > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise tests,
> > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> > > >
> > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a
> credit card.
> > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this
> and gets
> > > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,
> practise
> > > > tests etc.
> > > >
> > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
> couldn't
> > > > afford to buy them)
> > > >
> > > > From where exactly should I start..
> > > >
> > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> > > >
> > > > Thanks one and all,
> > > >
> > > > Mohan Kumar J.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Glenn D. Crosse

2003-01-31, 10:23 am

Thanks for the link. Some nice material there.
How did you like the "NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
Deployment " book??
It sounds like a good one to read.
Thanks,
Glenn
"Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OZjVzwSyCHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP11...
> I'm preparing for this exam also.
>
> The material I'm using is:
>
> Books:
> - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object Modeling Language
> (2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
> - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN 0201571684)
> - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to Deployment (ISBN
> 1861005911)
> - Information Modeling and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
> to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
>
> MOC:
> - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF) Essentials
> - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
> Architectures
> - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a Database Using
Microsoft
> Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
>
> I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
>
> On MSDN Library I found many articles that are helpful, so, it's worth of
> reading.
>
> I have also experience as software engineer/architect, doing it to many
big
> customers here in Italy.
>
> Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for the exam, but as I
work
> with that, for me it prepares also to the real life working... :-)
>
> Good luck with the exam and your new job.
> Best regards,
> Paulo
>
> "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
> > particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
> > this paper.
> >
> > My employer beleives that I have all the required
> > Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise Web
> > applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
> > doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
> > right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
> > specific to .NET architecture.
> >
> > And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
> > (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
> > Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
> > thought I'd go for it.
> >
> > I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
> > following will be the key skill areas that I should take
> > care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
> >
> > 1. MSF Model
> > 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
> > 3. Database Modelling
> > 4. Other Standards and Practises
> >
> > Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
> > and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
> > approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300 followed
> > by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
> >
> > Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
> > Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds more
> > insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
> >
> > If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
> > would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a MS
> > S/W architect guy.
> >
> > So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP. But
> > now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
> > be hired for our parent company in the US.
> >
> > So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls guide
> > me in this regard.
> >
> > If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
> >
> > Waiting for your valuable inputs,
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Mohan Kumar J.
> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
> > From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want to
> > be a sw architect.
> >
> > You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more one
> > exam about SQL
> > Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
> >
> > Bye
> > "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > I totally agree.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> > > >
> > > > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET well
> > and just aiming to
> > > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
> > your "real" skillset.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or so
> > as my
> > > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise tests,
> > > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a
> > credit card.
> > > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this
> > and gets
> > > > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,
> > practise
> > > > > tests etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
> > couldn't
> > > > > afford to buy them)
> > > > >
> > > > > From where exactly should I start..
> > > > >
> > > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks one and all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mohan Kumar J.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Sridhar Krishnaswamy

2003-01-31, 7:23 pm

I participated in the 71-300 beta. If I remember
correctly, there was no UML, ORM was touched upon very
lightly. The first few chapters of Information Modeling
and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
to Logical Design should be more than enough for ORM.
Prepare on how to architect Media Applications and the
Microsoft Technology and products that will help you in
designing Media Apps.

Thanks,
Sridhar Krishnaswamy, PMP
MCAD .NET.

>-----Original Message-----
>I'm preparing for this exam also.
>
>The material I'm using is:
>
>Books:
> - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object
Modeling Language
>(2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
> - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN
0201571684)
> - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
Deployment (ISBN
>1861005911)
> - Information Modeling and Relational Databases: From
Conceptual Analysis
>to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
>
>MOC:
> - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF) Essentials
> - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining
Microsoft .NET Solution
>Architectures
> - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a
Database Using Microsoft
>Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
>
>I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
>
>On MSDN Library I found many articles that are helpful,
so, it's worth of
>reading.
>
>I have also experience as software engineer/architect,
doing it to many big
>customers here in Italy.
>
>Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for the
exam, but as I work
>with that, for me it prepares also to the real life
working... :-)
>
>Good luck with the exam and your new job.
>Best regards,
>Paulo
>
>"Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
>> particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
>> this paper.
>>
>> My employer beleives that I have all the required
>> Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise
Web
>> applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
>> doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
>> right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
>> specific to .NET architecture.
>>
>> And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
>> (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
>> Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
>> thought I'd go for it.
>>
>> I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
>> following will be the key skill areas that I should take
>> care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
>>
>> 1. MSF Model
>> 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
>> 3. Database Modelling
>> 4. Other Standards and Practises
>>
>> Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
>> and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
>> approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300
followed
>> by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
>>
>> Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
>> Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds
more
>> insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
>>
>> If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
>> would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a
MS
>> S/W architect guy.
>>
>> So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP.
But
>> now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
>> be hired for our parent company in the US.
>>
>> So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls
guide

>> me in this regard.
>>
>> If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
>>
>> Waiting for your valuable inputs,
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Mohan Kumar J.
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
>> From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want
to
>> be a sw architect.
>>
>> You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more
one
>> exam about SQL
>> Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
>>
>> Bye
>> "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
>> > I totally agree.
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
>> > >
>> > > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET
well
>> and just aiming to
>> > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
>> your "real" skillset.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or
so
>> as my
>> > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
>> > > >
>> > > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise
tests,
>> > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
>> > > >
>> > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a
>> credit card.
>> > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this
>> and gets
>> > > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,
>> practise
>> > > > tests etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
>> couldn't
>> > > > afford to buy them)
>> > > >
>> > > > From where exactly should I start..
>> > > >
>> > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks one and all,
>> > > >
>> > > > Mohan Kumar J.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Danut

2003-02-01, 12:23 am

I participated too in 71-300 and I remember the exact things: no UML and a
just little ORM.
It does not mean that UML should be avoided. Actually I'm sorry MS does not
use more UML.
I plan to take the IBM 486 exam - UML and Design Patterns.

Danut
MCAD.NET

"Sridhar Krishnaswamy" <skrish@mantrainc.com> wrote in message
news:0ad901c2c98a$8c6d7a50$8df
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA02...
> I participated in the 71-300 beta. If I remember
> correctly, there was no UML, ORM was touched upon very
> lightly. The first few chapters of Information Modeling
> and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
> to Logical Design should be more than enough for ORM.
> Prepare on how to architect Media Applications and the
> Microsoft Technology and products that will help you in
> designing Media Apps.
>
> Thanks,
> Sridhar Krishnaswamy, PMP
> MCAD .NET.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I'm preparing for this exam also.
> >
> >The material I'm using is:
> >
> >Books:
> > - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object
> Modeling Language
> >(2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
> > - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN
> 0201571684)
> > - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
> Deployment (ISBN
> >1861005911)
> > - Information Modeling and Relational Databases: From
> Conceptual Analysis
> >to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
> >
> >MOC:
> > - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF) Essentials
> > - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining
> Microsoft .NET Solution
> >Architectures
> > - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a
> Database Using Microsoft
> >Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
> >
> >I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
> >http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
> >
> >On MSDN Library I found many articles that are helpful,
> so, it's worth of
> >reading.
> >
> >I have also experience as software engineer/architect,
> doing it to many big
> >customers here in Italy.
> >
> >Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for the
> exam, but as I work
> >with that, for me it prepares also to the real life
> working... :-)
> >
> >Good luck with the exam and your new job.
> >Best regards,
> >Paulo
> >
> >"Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
> >> particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
> >> this paper.
> >>
> >> My employer beleives that I have all the required
> >> Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise
> Web
> >> applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
> >> doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
> >> right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
> >> specific to .NET architecture.
> >>
> >> And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
> >> (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
> >> Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
> >> thought I'd go for it.
> >>
> >> I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
> >> following will be the key skill areas that I should take
> >> care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
> >>
> >> 1. MSF Model
> >> 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
> >> 3. Database Modelling
> >> 4. Other Standards and Practises
> >>
> >> Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
> >> and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
> >> approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300
> followed
> >> by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
> >>
> >> Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
> >> Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds
> more
> >> insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
> >>
> >> If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
> >> would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a
> MS

> >> S/W architect guy.
> >>
> >> So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP.
> But
> >> now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
> >> be hired for our parent company in the US.
> >>
> >> So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls
> guide
> >> me in this regard.
> >>
> >> If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
> >>
> >> Waiting for your valuable inputs,
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >> Mohan Kumar J.
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
> >> From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
> >> Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want
> to

> >> be a sw architect.
> >>
> >> You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more
> one
> >> exam about SQL
> >> Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
> >>
> >> Bye
> >> "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> >> > I totally agree.
> >> >
> >> > Greg
> >> >
> >> > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> >> > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> >> > >
> >> > > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET
> well
> >> and just aiming to
> >> > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
> >> your "real" skillset.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or
> so

> >> as my
> >> > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise
> tests,
> >> > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a
> >> credit card.
> >> > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this
> >> and gets
> >> > > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,
> >> practise
> >> > > > tests etc.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
> >> couldn't
> >> > > > afford to buy them)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From where exactly should I start..
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks one and all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mohan Kumar J.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Paulo Reichert

2003-02-01, 3:23 pm

Yeah. It's a nice book. When you learn C# you get a lot of concepts, and
this book helps you to see these concepts on the practice.

It's not good as a hands-on, but is worth reading anyway.

Cheers,
Paulo
"Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OdMh8PUyCHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> Thanks for the link. Some nice material there.
> How did you like the "NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
> Deployment " book??
> It sounds like a good one to read.
> Thanks,
> Glenn
> "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OZjVzwSyCHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP11...
> > I'm preparing for this exam also.
> >
> > The material I'm using is:
> >
> > Books:
> > - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object Modeling Language
> > (2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
> > - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN 0201571684)
> > - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to Deployment (ISBN
> > 1861005911)
> > - Information Modeling and Relational Databases: From Conceptual
Analysis
> > to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
> >
> > MOC:
> > - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF) Essentials
> > - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution
> > Architectures
> > - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a Database Using
> Microsoft
> > Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
> >
> > I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
> >
> > On MSDN Library I found many articles that are helpful, so, it's worth
of
> > reading.
> >
> > I have also experience as software engineer/architect, doing it to many
> big
> > customers here in Italy.
> >
> > Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for the exam, but as I
> work
> > with that, for me it prepares also to the real life working... :-)
> >
> > Good luck with the exam and your new job.
> > Best regards,
> > Paulo
> >
> > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
> > > particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
> > > this paper.
> > >
> > > My employer beleives that I have all the required
> > > Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise Web
> > > applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
> > > doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
> > > right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
> > > specific to .NET architecture.
> > >
> > > And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
> > > (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
> > > Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
> > > thought I'd go for it.
> > >
> > > I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
> > > following will be the key skill areas that I should take
> > > care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
> > >
> > > 1. MSF Model
> > > 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
> > > 3. Database Modelling
> > > 4. Other Standards and Practises
> > >
> > > Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
> > > and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
> > > approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300 followed
> > > by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
> > >
> > > Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
> > > Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds more
> > > insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
> > >
> > > If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
> > > would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a MS
> > > S/W architect guy.
> > >
> > > So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP. But
> > > now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
> > > be hired for our parent company in the US.
> > >
> > > So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls guide
> > > me in this regard.
> > >
> > > If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
> > >
> > > Waiting for your valuable inputs,
> > >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > > Mohan Kumar J.
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
> > > From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
> > > Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want to
> > > be a sw architect.
> > >
> > > You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more one
> > > exam about SQL
> > > Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
> > >
> > > Bye
> > > "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > I totally agree.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET well
> > > and just aiming to
> > > > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
> > > your "real" skillset.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or so
> > > as my
> > > > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise tests,
> > > > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a
> > > credit card.
> > > > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this
> > > and gets
> > > > > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,
> > > practise
> > > > > > tests etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
> > > couldn't
> > > > > > afford to buy them)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From where exactly should I start..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks one and all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mohan Kumar J.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Paulo Reichert

2003-02-01, 3:23 pm

I plan to take this IBM exam too.

Anyway, I was not aware that wasn't UML on the exam (I can't understand
why), but this knowledge is useful for me on my work, so, not time lost...
:-)

Cheers,
Paulo

"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ej$GiJbyCHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> I participated too in 71-300 and I remember the exact things: no UML and a
> just little ORM.
> It does not mean that UML should be avoided. Actually I'm sorry MS does
not
> use more UML.
> I plan to take the IBM 486 exam - UML and Design Patterns.
>
> Danut
> MCAD.NET
>
> "Sridhar Krishnaswamy" <skrish@mantrainc.com> wrote in message
> news:0ad901c2c98a$8c6d7a50$8df
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA02...
> > I participated in the 71-300 beta. If I remember
> > correctly, there was no UML, ORM was touched upon very
> > lightly. The first few chapters of Information Modeling
> > and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
> > to Logical Design should be more than enough for ORM.
> > Prepare on how to architect Media Applications and the
> > Microsoft Technology and products that will help you in
> > designing Media Apps.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sridhar Krishnaswamy, PMP
> > MCAD .NET.
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I'm preparing for this exam also.
> > >
> > >The material I'm using is:
> > >
> > >Books:
> > > - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object
> > Modeling Language
> > >(2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
> > > - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN
> > 0201571684)
> > > - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
> > Deployment (ISBN
> > >1861005911)
> > > - Information Modeling and Relational Databases: From
> > Conceptual Analysis
> > >to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
> > >
> > >MOC:
> > > - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF) Essentials
> > > - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining
> > Microsoft .NET Solution
> > >Architectures
> > > - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a
> > Database Using Microsoft
> > >Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
> > >
> > >I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
> > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
> > >
> > >On MSDN Library I found many articles that are helpful,
> > so, it's worth of
> > >reading.
> > >
> > >I have also experience as software engineer/architect,
> > doing it to many big
> > >customers here in Italy.
> > >
> > >Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for the
> > exam, but as I work
> > >with that, for me it prepares also to the real life
> > working... :-)
> > >
> > >Good luck with the exam and your new job.
> > >Best regards,
> > >Paulo
> > >
> > >"Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
> > >> particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
> > >> this paper.
> > >>
> > >> My employer beleives that I have all the required
> > >> Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise
> > Web
> > >> applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
> > >> doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
> > >> right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
> > >> specific to .NET architecture.
> > >>
> > >> And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
> > >> (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
> > >> Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
> > >> thought I'd go for it.
> > >>
> > >> I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
> > >> following will be the key skill areas that I should take
> > >> care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
> > >>
> > >> 1. MSF Model
> > >> 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
> > >> 3. Database Modelling
> > >> 4. Other Standards and Practises
> > >>
> > >> Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
> > >> and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
> > >> approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300
> > followed
> > >> by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
> > >>
> > >> Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
> > >> Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds
> > more
> > >> insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
> > >>
> > >> If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
> > >> would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a
> > MS
> > >> S/W architect guy.
> > >>
> > >> So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP.
> > But
> > >> now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
> > >> be hired for our parent company in the US.
> > >>
> > >> So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls
> > guide
> > >> me in this regard.
> > >>
> > >> If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
> > >>
> > >> Waiting for your valuable inputs,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks and regards,
> > >> Mohan Kumar J.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
> > >> From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
> > >> Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want
> > to
> > >> be a sw architect.
> > >>
> > >> You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more
> > one
> > >> exam about SQL
> > >> Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
> > >>
> > >> Bye
> > >> "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > >> > I totally agree.
> > >> >
> > >> > Greg
> > >> >
> > >> > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > >> > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET
> > well
> > >> and just aiming to
> > >> > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
> > >> your "real" skillset.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or
> > so
> > >> as my
> > >> > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise
> > tests,
> > >> > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a
> > >> credit card.
> > >> > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this
> > >> and gets
> > >> > > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,
> > >> practise
> > >> > > > tests etc.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
> > >> couldn't
> > >> > > > afford to buy them)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > From where exactly should I start..
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks one and all,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Mohan Kumar J.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

Danut

2003-02-02, 1:23 pm

Yes, UML is very useful for a company that wants a good system for software
development but many companies and many managers still develop software
without opening a book. That's why we still see lots of failed projects.

As a C++ developer I studied lots of C++ books to improve my code and become
a better developer. Why is it so hard for a manager to study how the
software development should be, learn from these books and avoid making
stupid mistakes?

"Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#j7y0TjyCHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> I plan to take this IBM exam too.
>
> Anyway, I was not aware that wasn't UML on the exam (I can't understand
> why), but this knowledge is useful for me on my work, so, not time lost...
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Paulo
>
> "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ej$GiJbyCHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > I participated too in 71-300 and I remember the exact things: no UML and
a
> > just little ORM.
> > It does not mean that UML should be avoided. Actually I'm sorry MS does
> not
> > use more UML.
> > I plan to take the IBM 486 exam - UML and Design Patterns.
> >
> > Danut
> > MCAD.NET
> >
> > "Sridhar Krishnaswamy" <skrish@mantrainc.com> wrote in message
> > news:0ad901c2c98a$8c6d7a50$8df
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA02...
> > > I participated in the 71-300 beta. If I remember
> > > correctly, there was no UML, ORM was touched upon very
> > > lightly. The first few chapters of Information Modeling
> > > and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
> > > to Logical Design should be more than enough for ORM.
> > > Prepare on how to architect Media Applications and the
> > > Microsoft Technology and products that will help you in
> > > designing Media Apps.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sridhar Krishnaswamy, PMP
> > > MCAD .NET.
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >I'm preparing for this exam also.
> > > >
> > > >The material I'm using is:
> > > >
> > > >Books:
> > > > - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object
> > > Modeling Language
> > > >(2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
> > > > - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN
> > > 0201571684)
> > > > - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
> > > Deployment (ISBN
> > > >1861005911)
> > > > - Information Modeling and Relational Databases: From
> > > Conceptual Analysis
> > > >to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
> > > >
> > > >MOC:
> > > > - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF) Essentials
> > > > - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining
> > > Microsoft .NET Solution
> > > >Architectures
> > > > - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a
> > > Database Using Microsoft
> > > >Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
> > > >
> > > >I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
> > > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
> > > >
> > > >On MSDN Library I found many articles that are helpful,
> > > so, it's worth of
> > > >reading.
> > > >
> > > >I have also experience as software engineer/architect,
> > > doing it to many big
> > > >customers here in Italy.
> > > >
> > > >Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for the
> > > exam, but as I work
> > > >with that, for me it prepares also to the real life
> > > working... :-)
> > > >
> > > >Good luck with the exam and your new job.
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Paulo
> > > >
> > > >"Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
> > > >> particular, there are specific reasons for me targeting
> > > >> this paper.
> > > >>
> > > >> My employer beleives that I have all the required
> > > >> Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's Enterprise
> > > Web
> > > >> applications Team for more than 2 years) and since I'm
> > > >> doing some kind of architechting consultancy for them
> > > >> right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
> > > >> specific to .NET architecture.
> > > >>
> > > >> And also, since I have fairly good amount of knowledge
> > > >> (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering, Req.
> > > >> Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I personally
> > > >> thought I'd go for it.
> > > >>
> > > >> I understand that If I have to clear this paper, the
> > > >> following will be the key skill areas that I should take
> > > >> care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. MSF Model
> > > >> 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
> > > >> 3. Database Modelling
> > > >> 4. Other Standards and Practises
> > > >>
> > > >> Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#, ASP.NET
> > > >> and Web services. So just thought let me do the top-down
> > > >> approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300
> > > followed
> > > >> by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
> > > >>
> > > >> Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
> > > >> Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300 sheds
> > > more
> > > >> insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
> > > >>
> > > >> If you can recommend me of any specific books on this I
> > > >> would be very much grateful. My goal is to be called a
> > > MS
> > > >> S/W architect guy.
> > > >>
> > > >> So long, I've never really cared to appear for an MCP.
> > > But
> > > >> now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm gonna
> > > >> be hired for our parent company in the US.
> > > >>
> > > >> So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls
> > > guide
> > > >> me in this regard.
> > > >>
> > > >> If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Waiting for your valuable inputs,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks and regards,
> > > >> Mohan Kumar J.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
> > > >> From: "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
> > > >> Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you want
> > > to
> > > >> be a sw architect.
> > > >>
> > > >> You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320, more
> > > one
> > > >> exam about SQL
> > > >> Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
> > > >>
> > > >> Bye
> > > >> "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > >> > I totally agree.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Greg
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:w4YZ9.141649$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > >> > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Unless you are a developer who already know .NET
> > > well
> > > >> and just aiming to
> > > >> > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much to
> > > >> your "real" skillset.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560$d4f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hi,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a month or
> > > so
> > > >> as my
> > > >> > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Can some give me any useful links abt practise
> > > tests,
> > > >> > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have a
> > > >> credit card.
> > > >> > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in this
> > > >> and gets
> > > >> > > > any useful info on test preparatory materials,
> > > >> practise
> > > >> > > > tests etc.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests PTPs, but
> > > >> couldn't
> > > >> > > > afford to buy them)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > From where exactly should I start..
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks one and all,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Mohan Kumar J.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

Sridhar Krishnaswamy

2003-02-03, 11:23 am

I think IBM 486 is one of the best and challenging exams I
have ever taken, towards getting my Certified Enterprise
Developer for Websphere certification. It has been a
couple of years, I am not sure if the exam has changed.
The material I used for preparing was UML Distilled, and
Applying UML and Patterns: An Introduction to Object-
Oriented Analysis and Design by Craig Larman. I used the
first edition of this book. Since then there has been a
second edition. This is a superb book anyway to keep.

Thanks,
Sridhar.
>-----Original Message-----
>I plan to take this IBM exam too.
>
>Anyway, I was not aware that wasn't UML on the exam (I
can't understand
>why), but this knowledge is useful for me on my work, so,
not time lost...
>:-)
>
>Cheers,
>Paulo
>
>"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ej$GiJbyCHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP10...
>> I participated too in 71-300 and I remember the exact
things: no UML and a
>> just little ORM.
>> It does not mean that UML should be avoided. Actually
I'm sorry MS does
>not
>> use more UML.
>> I plan to take the IBM 486 exam - UML and Design
Patterns.
>>
>> Danut
>> MCAD.NET
>>
>> "Sridhar Krishnaswamy" <skrish@mantrainc.com> wrote in
message
>> news:0ad901c2c98a$8c6d7a50$8df
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA02...
>> > I participated in the 71-300 beta. If I remember
>> > correctly, there was no UML, ORM was touched upon very
>> > lightly. The first few chapters of Information
Modeling
>> > and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
>> > to Logical Design should be more than enough for ORM.
>> > Prepare on how to architect Media Applications and the
>> > Microsoft Technology and products that will help you
in[co
lor=darkred]
>> > designing Media Apps.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Sridhar Krishnaswamy, PMP
>> > MCAD .NET.
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >I'm preparing for this exam also.
>> > >
>> > >The material I'm using is:
>> > >
>> > >Books:
>> > > - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard[/color]
Object
>> > Modeling Language
>> > >(2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
>> > > - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN
>> > 0201571684)
>> > > - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
>> > Deployment (ISBN
>> > >1861005911)
>> > > - Information Modeling and Relational Databases:
From[
color=darkred]
>> > Conceptual Analysis
>> > >to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
>> > >
>> > >MOC:
>> > > - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF)[/color]
Essentials
>> > > - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining
>> > Microsoft .NET Solution
>> > >Architectures
>> > > - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a
>> > Database Using Microsoft
>> > >Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
>> > >
>> > >I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
>> > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
>> > >
>> > >On MSDN Library I found many articles that are
helpful,
>> > so, it's worth of
>> > >reading.
>> > >
>> > >I have also experience as software
engineer/ architect,
>> > doing it to many big
>> > >customers here in Italy.
>> > >
>> > >Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for
the[c
olor=darkred]
>> > exam, but as I work
>> > >with that, for me it prepares also to the real life
>> > working... :-)
>> > >
>> > >Good luck with the exam and your new job.
>> > >Best regards,
>> > >Paulo
>> > >
>> > >"Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi all,
>> > >>
>> > >> Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
>> > >> particular, there are specific reasons for me[/color]
targeting
>> > >> this paper.
>> > >>
>> > >> My employer beleives that I have all the required
>> > >> Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's
Enterprise
>> > Web
>> > >> applications Team for more than 2 years) and since
I'm[c
olor=darkred]
>> > >> doing some kind of architechting consultancy for[/color]
them[
color=darkred]
>> > >> right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
>> > >> specific to .NET architecture.
>> > >>
>> > >> And also, since I have fairly good amount of[/color]
knowledge
>> > >> (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering,
Req. [colo
r=darkred]
>> > >> Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I[/color]
personally
>> > >> thought I'd go for it.
>> > >>
>> > >> I understand that If I have to clear this paper,
the[c
olor=darkred]
>> > >> following will be the key skill areas that I[/color]
should take[
color=darkred]
>> > >> care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
>> > >>
>> > >> 1. MSF Model
>> > >> 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
>> > >> 3. Database Modelling
>> > >> 4. Other Standards and Practises
>> > >>
>> > >> Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#,[/color]
ASP. NET[c
olor=darkred]
>> > >> and Web services. So just thought let me do the[/color]
top- down[
color=darkred]
>> > >> approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300
>> > followed
>> > >> by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
>> > >>
>> > >> Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
>> > >> Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300[/color]
sheds

>> > more
>> > >> insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
>> > >>
>> > >> If you can recommend me of any specific books on
this I[col
or=darkred]
>> > >> would be very much grateful. My goal is to be[/color]
called a[col
or=darkred]
>> > MS
>> > >> S/W architect guy.
>> > >>
>> > >> So long, I've never really cared to appear for an[/color]
MCP. [colo
r=darkred]
>> > But
>> > >> now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm[/color]
gonna

>> > >> be hired for our parent company in the US.
>> > >>
>> > >> So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls
>> > guide
>> > >> me in this regard.
>> > >>
>> > >> If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
>> > >>
>> > >> Waiting for your valuable inputs,
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks and regards,
>> > >> Mohan Kumar J.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
>> > >> From: "Paulo Reichert"
<paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> [colo
r=darkred]
>> > >> Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you[/color]
want[
color=darkred]
>> > to
>> > >> be a sw architect.
>> > >>
>> > >> You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320,[/color]
more[
color=darkred]
>> > one
>> > >> exam about SQL
>> > >> Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
>> > >>
>> > >> Bye
>> > >> "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in[/color]
message
>> > >> news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
>> > >> > I totally agree.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Greg
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in
message
>> > >> > news:w4YZ9.141649
$sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca... [colo
r=darkred]
>> > >> > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Unless you are a developer who already[/color]
know . NET[c
olor=darkred]
>> > well
>> > >> and just aiming to
>> > >> > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much[/color]
to[co
lor=darkred]
>> > >> your "real" skillset.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in[/color]
message
>> > >> > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560
$d4f82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11... [colo
r=darkred]
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Hi,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a[/color]
month or[co
lor=darkred]
>> > so
>> > >> as my
>> > >> > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Can some give me any useful links abt[/color]
practise
>> > tests,
>> > >> > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have
a[col
or=darkred]
>> > >> credit card.
>> > >> > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in[/color]
this[
color=darkred]
>> > >> and gets
>> > >> > > > any useful info on test preparatory[/color]
materials,
>> > >> practise
>> > >> > > > tests etc.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests
PTPs, but[c
olor=darkred]
>> > >> couldn't
>> > >> > > > afford to buy them)
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > From where exactly should I start..
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Thanks one and all,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Mohan Kumar J.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >.
>> > >
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>[/color]

DFoderick

2003-02-03, 12:23 pm

I just took and passed the IBM 486 exam. This exam is what
70-300 should have been!

I liked this exam a lot. Much of the exam deals with the
Object-oriented design process, not the specifics of the
UML notation. Head on over to www.objectsbydesign.com for
some good information on how to study for the exam. Also,
don't forget to take IBM's ICE practice exam for this test.

-Dave

>-----Original Message-----
>I participated too in 71-300 and I remember the exact
things: no UML and a
>just little ORM.
>It does not mean that UML should be avoided. Actually I'm
sorry MS does not
>use more UML.
>I plan to take the IBM 486 exam - UML and Design
Patterns.
>
>Danut
>MCAD.NET
>

Danut

2003-02-03, 2:23 pm

Thank for the info Dave!
I was planing to take 486 for a while but 71-300 came and other things also
so I keep delaying it.

"DFoderick" <spam@islove.com> wrote in message
news:06de01c2cbad$12e62a90$8df
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA02...
> I just took and passed the IBM 486 exam. This exam is what
> 70-300 should have been!
>
> I liked this exam a lot. Much of the exam deals with the
> Object-oriented design process, not the specifics of the
> UML notation. Head on over to www.objectsbydesign.com for
> some good information on how to study for the exam. Also,
> don't forget to take IBM's ICE practice exam for this test.
>
> -Dave
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I participated too in 71-300 and I remember the exact
> things: no UML and a
> >just little ORM.
> >It does not mean that UML should be avoided. Actually I'm
> sorry MS does not
> >use more UML.
> >I plan to take the IBM 486 exam - UML and Design
> Patterns.
> >
> >Danut
> >MCAD.NET
> >
>

Danut

2003-02-03, 2:23 pm

I bought both books to study for the 486 exams but I only had time to walk
through the UML Distilled but not the other one. 486 maight be the only OBM
exam I am inteerested in because it is about UML. I only use MS platforms.

"Sridhar Krishnaswamy" <skrish@mantrainc.com> wrote in message
news:07ec01c2cba1$edadd1c0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> I think IBM 486 is one of the best and challenging exams I
> have ever taken, towards getting my Certified Enterprise
> Developer for Websphere certification. It has been a
> couple of years, I am not sure if the exam has changed.
> The material I used for preparing was UML Distilled, and
> Applying UML and Patterns: An Introduction to Object-
> Oriented Analysis and Design by Craig Larman. I used the
> first edition of this book. Since then there has been a
> second edition. This is a superb book anyway to keep.
>
> Thanks,
> Sridhar.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I plan to take this IBM exam too.
> >
> >Anyway, I was not aware that wasn't UML on the exam (I
> can't understand
> >why), but this knowledge is useful for me on my work, so,
> not time lost...
> >:-)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Paulo
> >
> >"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:ej$GiJbyCHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> >> I participated too in 71-300 and I remember the exact
> things: no UML and a
> >> just little ORM.
> >> It does not mean that UML should be avoided. Actually
> I'm sorry MS does
> >not
> >> use more UML.
> >> I plan to take the IBM 486 exam - UML and Design
> Patterns.
> >>
> >> Danut
> >> MCAD.NET
> >>
> >> "Sridhar Krishnaswamy" <skrish@mantrainc.com> wrote in
> message
> >> news:0ad901c2c98a$8c6d7a50$8df
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA02...
> >> > I participated in the 71-300 beta. If I remember
> >> > correctly, there was no UML, ORM was touched upon very
> >> > lightly. The first few chapters of Information
> Modeling
> >> > and Relational Databases: From Conceptual Analysis
> >> > to Logical Design should be more than enough for ORM.
> >> > Prepare on how to architect Media Applications and the
> >> > Microsoft Technology and products that will help you
> in

> >> > designing Media Apps.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Sridhar Krishnaswamy, PMP
> >> > MCAD .NET.
> >> >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >I'm preparing for this exam also.
> >> > >
> >> > >The material I'm using is:
> >> > >
> >> > >Books:
> >> > > - UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard
> Object
> >> > Modeling Language
> >> > >(2nd Edition) (ISBN 020165783X)
> >> > > - The Unified Modeling Language User Guide (ISBN
> >> > 0201571684)
> >> > > - .NET Enterprise Development in C#: From Design to
> >> > Deployment (ISBN
> >> > >1861005911)
> >> > > - Information Modeling and Relational Databases:
> From
> >> > Conceptual Analysis
> >> > >to Logical Design (ISBN 1558606726)
> >> > >
> >> > >MOC:
> >> > > - 1846: Microsoft Solutions Framework (MSF)
> Essentials
> >> > > - 2710: Analyzing Requirements and Defining
> >> > Microsoft .NET Solution
> >> > >Architectures
> >> > > - 2090: Modeling Business Requirements to Create a
> >> > Database Using Microsoft
> >> > >Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
> >> > >
> >> > >I'm also using many PDF documents downloaded from
> >> > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/.
> >> > >
> >> > >On MSDN Library I found many articles that are
> helpful,
> >> > so, it's worth of
> >> > >reading.
> >> > >
> >> > >I have also experience as software
> engineer/ architect,
> >> > doing it to many big
> >> > >customers here in Italy.
> >> > >
> >> > >Maybe you wont need all this material to prepare for
> the
> >> > exam, but as I work
> >> > >with that, for me it prepares also to the real life
> >> > working... :-)
> >> > >
> >> > >Good luck with the exam and your new job.
> >> > >Best regards,
> >> > >Paulo
> >> > >
> >> > >"Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:050c01c2c8e2$e9c681e0$d5f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi all,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Well, if you ask me why did I select this exam in
> >> > >> particular, there are specific reasons for me
> targeting
> >> > >> this paper.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> My employer beleives that I have all the required
> >> > >> Microsoft Expertise (been in the company's
> Enterprise
> >> > Web
> >> > >> applications Team for more than 2 years) and since
> I'm
> >> > >> doing some kind of architechting consultancy for
> them
> >> > >> right now, it would be better for me to get an MCP
> >> > >> specific to .NET architecture.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And also, since I have fairly good amount of
> knowledge
> >> > >> (and not experience) in Requirements Engineering,
> Req.
> >> > >> Mgt, Business case modelling and stuff, I
> personally
> >> > >> thought I'd go for it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I understand that If I have to clear this paper,
> the
> >> > >> following will be the key skill areas that I
> should take
> >> > >> care of (as outlined in the Microsoft 70-300 page)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 1. MSF Model
> >> > >> 2. Object Role Modelling (ORM)
> >> > >> 3. Database Modelling
> >> > >> 4. Other Standards and Practises
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Technically speaking, I'm also conversant in C#,
> ASP. NET
> >> > >> and Web services. So just thought let me do the
> top- down
> >> > >> approach for getting an MCSD.NET (First, a 70-300
> >> > followed
> >> > >> by 70-315, 70-316, 70-320 and 70-229)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Right now, I'm referring to all of MSDN and other
> >> > >> Microsoft sites only. Also Tim's page on 70-300
> sheds
> >> > more
> >> > >> insight too (www.codeclinic.com/70-300skills.htm)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If you can recommend me of any specific books on
> this I
> >> > >> would be very much grateful. My goal is to be
> called a
> >> > MS
> >> > >> S/W architect guy.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So long, I've never really cared to appear for an
> MCP.
> >> > But
> >> > >> now, its high time for me to get an MCSD since I'm
> gonna
> >> > >> be hired for our parent company in the US.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So, pls advise me if my focus is right and also pls
> >> > guide
> >> > >> me in this regard.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If possible mail me at imkumar@protechmail.com
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Waiting for your valuable inputs,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks and regards,
> >> > >> Mohan Kumar J.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Subject: Re: 70-300 Exam SOS !! Attachments: None
> >> > >> From: "Paulo Reichert"
> <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com>
> >> > >> Sent: 1/30/2003 8:08:22 AM
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I would say that you don't need 70-300 unless you
> want
> >> > to
> >> > >> be a sw architect.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You can take either 70-315 or 70-316 and 70-320,
> more
> >> > one
> >> > >> exam about SQL
> >> > >> Server (70-229) and you get MCAD...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Bye
> >> > >> "Greg Burns" <greg_burns@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> >> > >> news:eEavHiByCHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> >> > >> > I totally agree.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Greg
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Krusty the Clown" <clown@msn.com> wrote in
> message
> >> > >> > news:w4YZ9.141649
> $sV3.5478446@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> >> > >> > > Why don't you write 315 or 316?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Unless you are a developer who already
> know . NET
> >> > well
> >> > >> and just aiming to
> >> > >> > > finish MCSD.NET, 70-300 really won't add much
> to

> >> > >> your "real" skillset.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > "Mohan" <imkumar@protechmail.com> wrote in
> message
> >> > >> > > news:08f301c2c78f$69a75560
> $d4f82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA11...
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Hi,
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > I am appearing for the 70-300 exam in a
> month or

> >> > so
> >> > >> as my
> >> > >> > > > cpy demands me to go for an MCP.
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Can some give me any useful links abt
> practise
> >> > tests,
> >> > >> > > > study guides and course materials and stuff?
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > I can't afford to pay in USD as I don't have
> a
> >> > >> credit card.
> >> > >> > > > So I would appreciate if anyone guides me in
> this
> >> > >> and gets
> >> > >> > > > any useful info on test preparatory
> materials,
> >> > >> practise
> >> > >> > > > tests etc.
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > (I also Visited MeasureUp and Selftests
> PTPs, but
> >> > >> couldn't
> >> > >> > > > afford to buy them)
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > From where exactly should I start..
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Waiting for your valuable inputs..
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Thanks one and all,
> >> > >> > > >
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