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Dominic

2003-02-24, 11:23 am

Thanks for sharing Tim and well done. I've been through
the training kit and agree it doesn't go deep enough in
some areas. Having done a couple of the test exams from
MCSE braindumps I'll be ready to get a high percentage
correct late next week. Fingers crossed.

>-----Original Message-----
>I passed 70-315 in beta, but intend to pass all exams in

both C# and VB.Net
>versions. I don't expect employers or students to

understand the redundancy
>between the exams and don't want to have to explain it.
>
>I had 55 questions and 120 minutes to answer them. There

were fewer
>questions about ADO.Net and security than I expected. I

think I saw more
>about debugging & installation. The exam is functionally

the same as 315.
>It's been a long time since I took that exam, but there

were a bunch of
>questions I'm positive I saw on the 315 beta, just with

semicolons added. So
>the fact that this was almost a 'retake' made this a

little easier for me.
>
>I read most of the MS 305/315 training kit and the links

at
>www.codeclinic.com/70-315skills.htm. I've been doing some

real work with
>..Net for about a year and have read many other books &

magazines about it as
>well. I didn't try any practice questions, even the ones

that came with the
>MS training kit. I think the training kit is OK - the

labs have a few errors
>and at least one horrifyingly bad design choice

(generating record IDs by
>SELECT MAX(ID) from the database), but this is typical of

most programming
>books I've read. And to be fair, I didn't even look for

errata that might
>correct many of the errors - there wasn't anything that

was too difficult to
>resolve on my own, which is especially useful practice

for me. But I don't
>think it goes into sufficient depth to be a primary

preparation tool for the
>exam.
>
>
>.
>

Gary

2003-02-24, 12:23 pm

MCSEBraindumps!?!?!? *sigh*. It's so, so, so sad that people taking these
tests don't even REALIZE that they are cheating as is clear from Dominic's
apparently innocent post. I guess the value of certifications are
plummeting as we speak. I wonder if it is even worth the $125US to take
them?!?


"Dominic" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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1280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks for sharing Tim and well done. I've been through
> the training kit and agree it doesn't go deep enough in
> some areas. Having done a couple of the test exams from
> MCSE braindumps I'll be ready to get a high percentage
> correct late next week. Fingers crossed.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I passed 70-315 in beta, but intend to pass all exams in

> both C# and VB.Net
> >versions. I don't expect employers or students to

> understand the redundancy
> >between the exams and don't want to have to explain it.
> >
> >I had 55 questions and 120 minutes to answer them. There

> were fewer
> >questions about ADO.Net and security than I expected. I

> think I saw more
> >about debugging & installation. The exam is functionally

> the same as 315.
> >It's been a long time since I took that exam, but there

> were a bunch of
> >questions I'm positive I saw on the 315 beta, just with

> semicolons added. So
> >the fact that this was almost a 'retake' made this a

> little easier for me.
> >
> >I read most of the MS 305/315 training kit and the links

> at
> >www.codeclinic.com/70-315skills.htm. I've been doing some

> real work with
> >..Net for about a year and have read many other books &

> magazines about it as
> >well. I didn't try any practice questions, even the ones

> that came with the
> >MS training kit. I think the training kit is OK - the

> labs have a few errors
> >and at least one horrifyingly bad design choice

> (generating record IDs by
> >SELECT MAX(ID) from the database), but this is typical of

> most programming
> >books I've read. And to be fair, I didn't even look for

> errata that might
> >correct many of the errors - there wasn't anything that

> was too difficult to
> >resolve on my own, which is especially useful practice

> for me. But I don't
> >think it goes into sufficient depth to be a primary

> preparation tool for the
> >exam.
> >
> >
> >.
> >



Tim

2003-02-24, 12:23 pm

"Dominic" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:052201c2dc25$785c22c0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks for sharing Tim and well done. I've been through
> the training kit and agree it doesn't go deep enough in
> some areas. Having done a couple of the test exams from
> MCSE braindumps I'll be ready to get a high percentage
> correct late next week. Fingers crossed.


As Gary mentioned, there's really no luck involved if you've studied
braindumps. Those are very likely questions stolen directly from the exams.
I think you'll be much better off learning the general skills required until
you're able to pass the exam with that alone. It's really not that hard, and
I think the certification will be worth more to you if you know you earned
it instead of effectively stealing it.

It may be too late for this exam, but now that you know what the braindumps
are, ask yourself afterward if you really think you could never have passed
the exam without them. If so, you are frankly in the wrong business. If
that's not the case I think any extra work required will be a great
investment - both for your pride in passing the exam and the fact that it
will necessarily result in greater expertise with the tested subject matter.


Gary

2003-02-24, 12:23 pm

Well said, Tim!


"Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
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> "Dominic" <a@b.com> wrote in message
> news:052201c2dc25$785c22c0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > Thanks for sharing Tim and well done. I've been through
> > the training kit and agree it doesn't go deep enough in
> > some areas. Having done a couple of the test exams from
> > MCSE braindumps I'll be ready to get a high percentage
> > correct late next week. Fingers crossed.

>
> As Gary mentioned, there's really no luck involved if you've studied
> braindumps. Those are very likely questions stolen directly from the

exams.
> I think you'll be much better off learning the general skills required

until
> you're able to pass the exam with that alone. It's really not that hard,

and
> I think the certification will be worth more to you if you know you earned
> it instead of effectively stealing it.
>
> It may be too late for this exam, but now that you know what the

braindumps
> are, ask yourself afterward if you really think you could never have

passed
> the exam without them. If so, you are frankly in the wrong business. If
> that's not the case I think any extra work required will be a great
> investment - both for your pride in passing the exam and the fact that it
> will necessarily result in greater expertise with the tested subject

matter.
>
>



N Roepke

2003-02-25, 2:23 pm

Yes, very well said!


"Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
news:umW7buC3CHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "Dominic" <a@b.com> wrote in message
> news:052201c2dc25$785c22c0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > Thanks for sharing Tim and well done. I've been through
> > the training kit and agree it doesn't go deep enough in
> > some areas. Having done a couple of the test exams from
> > MCSE braindumps I'll be ready to get a high percentage
> > correct late next week. Fingers crossed.

>
> As Gary mentioned, there's really no luck involved if you've studied
> braindumps. Those are very likely questions stolen directly from the

exams.
> I think you'll be much better off learning the general skills required

until
> you're able to pass the exam with that alone. It's really not that hard,

and
> I think the certification will be worth more to you if you know you earned
> it instead of effectively stealing it.
>
> It may be too late for this exam, but now that you know what the

braindumps
> are, ask yourself afterward if you really think you could never have

passed
> the exam without them. If so, you are frankly in the wrong business. If
> that's not the case I think any extra work required will be a great
> investment - both for your pride in passing the exam and the fact that it
> will necessarily result in greater expertise with the tested subject

matter.
>
>



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