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| Swaggs20 2003-02-11, 9:24 am |
| I don't know about what the rest of the people have said,
but I know that it has made a great impact in the amount
ofm oney that I have been offered for a development job.
Before I got my MCAD, or the prospect of getting my MCSD
(I just have to get the 71-300 test), I was being offered
about 42,000 a year to start, and that is with 7 years of
experience in programming. I just took a job in Virginia
starting in July at 65,000 starting with benefits and
incentive bonuses. I know that it has made all the
difference in how I am going to live.
>-----Original Message-----
>Just Curious what the typical impact in terms of a
percentage increase that
>holding a MCSD cert would add to my current salary. If
anyone has any
>experiences or comments they would be greatly
appreciated as I am beginning
>my trek into the world of MS certs!
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>-rhorner
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| Alan Davis 2003-02-11, 9:24 am |
| Lucky you.
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:48:54 -0800, "Swaggs20" <swaggs20@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I don't know about what the rest of the people have said,
>but I know that it has made a great impact in the amount
>ofm oney that I have been offered for a development job.
>Before I got my MCAD, or the prospect of getting my MCSD
>(I just have to get the 71-300 test), I was being offered
>about 42,000 a year to start, and that is with 7 years of
>experience in programming. I just took a job in Virginia
>starting in July at 65,000 starting with benefits and
>incentive bonuses. I know that it has made all the
>difference in how I am going to live.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Just Curious what the typical impact in terms of a
>percentage increase that
>>holding a MCSD cert would add to my current salary. If
>anyone has any
>>experiences or comments they would be greatly
>appreciated as I am beginning
>>my trek into the world of MS certs!
>>
>>-rhorner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>.
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| Lucky you indeed.
I have been adversely affected by the slump in UK
IT/software industry. I have MSc degree and 20+ years
experience in what I thought were good technologies, but
cannot get a job.
Today, employers want 100% precise matches to their
requirements. If they say they prefer MCAD/MCSD you can
guarantee that you are disadvantaged without it. Simply
because the automated CV (resume) search enigines will
pick those with certification.
So, if you can get certified without ruining your life -
do it! You have nothing to lose and maybe something to
gain.
For me, it is potentially the difference between ZERO
salary and a salary (even if low!)
The real question should be: What says more?
Certification or experience on the job? If you have never
apllied MS technologies in a commercial situaion but have
MS certification does that make you more employable than
if you have no cert. but do the job effectively for
reputable employer.
Hmmm - I know which I would recruit ;-)
>-----Original Message-----
>Lucky you.
>On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:48:54 -0800, "Swaggs20"
<swaggs20@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I don't know about what the rest of the people have
said,
>>but I know that it has made a great impact in the
amount
>>ofm oney that I have been offered for a development
job.
>>Before I got my MCAD, or the prospect of getting my
MCSD
>>(I just have to get the 71-300 test), I was being
offered
>>about 42,000 a year to start, and that is with 7 years
of
>>experience in programming. I just took a job in
Virginia
>>starting in July at 65,000 starting with benefits and
>>incentive bonuses. I know that it has made all the
>>difference in how I am going to live.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Just Curious what the typical impact in terms of a
>>percentage increase that
>>>holding a MCSD cert would add to my current salary. If
>>anyone has any
>>>experiences or comments they would be greatly
>>appreciated as I am beginning
>>>my trek into the world of MS certs!
>>>
>>>-rhorner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
>.
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| Alan Davis 2003-02-11, 11:24 am |
| >Today, employers want 100% precise matches to their
>requirements. If they say they prefer MCAD/MCSD you can
>guarantee that you are disadvantaged without it. Simply
>because the automated CV (resume) search enigines will
>pick those with certification.
My experience in the UK see's the main problem is with the
'recruitment agencies'.
I have a unique prospective having been involved with 'recruitment
agencies' as an prospective employee, a hirer and actual working for a
company that had a recruitment arm.
I cannot understand why companies use them. The company may not get
the best candidates put forward, as it is the agency that decides who
to submit (based on what the agency will make). This is crazy when
most agencies would not have a clue about who to select, as they
simply use buzz word searching tools to 'select' the 'best'
candidates.
A friend of mine simple lies through his teeth; the contract agencies
don't know. It allows him to get to the interview and sell himself at
that point. He is a bit of a bragger, but always seems to be in work
earning good rates in the City.
>The real question should be: What says more?
>Certification or experience on the job? If you have never
>apllied MS technologies in a commercial situaion but have
>MS certification does that make you more employable than
>if you have no cert. but do the job effectively for
>reputable employer.
>Hmmm - I know which I would recruit
The one with the biggest tits and longest legs! Sorry, 100% agree with
you.
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