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| Michael Favro 2003-01-24, 6:23 pm |
| I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
Check out exam 70-304.
I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and thought
y'all might like to know.
Mike
| |
| Paulo Reichert 2003-01-25, 5:23 am |
| So what?
"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
>
> http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
>
> Check out exam 70-304.
>
> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and thought
> y'all might like to know.
>
> Mike
| |
| Michael Favro 2003-01-25, 10:23 am |
| So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
might be interested in this related bit.
>-----Original Message-----
>So what?
>
>"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
>> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
>>
>>
http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
>> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
>>
>> Check out exam 70-304.
>>
>> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
thought
>> y'all might like to know.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
>.
>
| |
| Michael Favro 2003-01-25, 11:23 am |
|
Mmm....good point. It doesn't indicate on that page when
it was last updated. But if you notice the
anticipated "live" dates of the three C# exams (June and
Sept of *2003* - only a year off!), my guess is that you
are correct - that this page hasn't been updated to be in
sync with the actual training and certification plans.
My bad.
>-----Original Message-----
>I also came across that page few weeks ago and as I
remember back then there
>was a question about C++.NET exam in MCSD FAQ, which
today is gone.
>So probably data on that page will be updated soon.
>
>
>"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
>> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
>>
>>
http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
>> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
>>
>> Check out exam 70-304.
>>
>> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
thought
>> y'all might like to know.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
>.
>
| |
| Paulo Reichert 2003-01-25, 11:23 am |
| I think that my answer was a bit unpolite, but wasn't my intention...
Sorry...
Anyway, on the MCSD FAQ Microsoft says that plans about exams based on C++
and J# are expected to be released soon after the release of Visual Studio
..NET 2003...
Regards,
Paulo
"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> might be interested in this related bit.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >So what?
> >
> >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> >>
> >>
> [url]http://members.microsoft.com/partner/partnering/programs/ce[/ url]
> >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> >>
> >> Check out exam 70-304.
> >>
> >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> thought
> >> y'all might like to know.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >
> >
> >.
> >
| |
| Nihilist Coder 2003-01-26, 9:23 am |
| > Anyway, on the MCSD FAQ Microsoft says that plans about exams based on C++
> and J# are expected to be released soon after the release of Visual Studio
> .NET 2003...
Where does it state this? I looked everywhere.
> Regards,
> Paulo
| |
| Glenn D. Crosse 2003-01-26, 3:23 pm |
| Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is different from C++
in VS6.
I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual studio 6 but
would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
Thanks,
Glenn
"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> might be interested in this related bit.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >So what?
> >
> >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> >>
> >>
> [url]http://members.microsoft.com/partner/partnering/programs/ce[/ url]
> >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> >>
> >> Check out exam 70-304.
> >>
> >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> thought
> >> y'all might like to know.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >
> >
> >.
> >
| |
|
| A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
Programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
by Richard Grimes
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced Programmers
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
-2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
-3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
The same books can be found at
http://www.bookpool.com
at a lower price.
"Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is different from
C++
> in VS6.
> I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual studio 6 but
> would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> Thanks,
> Glenn
> "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > might be interested in this related bit.
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >So what?
> > >
> > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > >>
> > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > >>
> > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > thought
> > >> y'all might like to know.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>
| |
| Glenn D. Crosse 2003-01-26, 4:23 pm |
| Thanks.
I wasn't thinking as I should have done the search as well.
Anyone read any of these and would like to give an opinion ??
Thanks,
Glenn
"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
>
> programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
> by Richard Grimes
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced Programmers
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> The same books can be found at
> http://www.bookpool.com
> at a lower price.
>
> "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is different from
> C++
> > in VS6.
> > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual studio 6
but
> > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn
> > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >So what?
> > > >
> > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > >>
> > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > >>
> > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > thought
> > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Glenn D. Crosse 2003-01-26, 5:23 pm |
| Thanks,
I went to Amazon and picked up both:
Programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
(Paperback)
Professional UML Modelling using VS.NET: Unmasking Visio for Enterprise
Architects (Paperback)
The C++ book got 5 start rave reviews.
Glenn
"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
>
> programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
> by Richard Grimes
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced Programmers
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> The same books can be found at
> http://www.bookpool.com
> at a lower price.
>
> "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is different from
> C++
> > in VS6.
> > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual studio 6
but
> > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn
> > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >So what?
> > > >
> > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > >>
> > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > >>
> > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > thought
> > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
|
| Xref: nntp3.aus1.giganews.com microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcsd:17253
I'm not interested in the near future to approach this exam. I got the MCAD
and waiting for the results for 71-300 and hopefully I'm MCSD.NET. I just
need to pass 215 and get MCDBA and this is it with MS certification.
I prefer to spend time taking the IBM UML exam and then maybe I will try the
IEEE certification.
Too bad the Rational certifications are only for partner companies.
Danut
"Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eHVPbHYxCHA.2536@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> Thanks.
> I wasn't thinking as I should have done the search as well.
> Anyone read any of these and would like to give an opinion ??
> Thanks,
> Glenn
> "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
> >
> > programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
> > by Richard Grimes
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> > -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> >
> > Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced Programmers
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> > -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> >
> > Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> > by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> > -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> >
> > The same books can be found at
> > http://www.bookpool.com
> > at a lower price.
> >
> > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is different
from
> > C++
> > > in VS6.
> > > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual studio 6
> but
> > > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Glenn
> > > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >So what?
> > > > >
> > > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > > thought
> > > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Glenn D. Crosse 2003-01-26, 6:23 pm |
| I take the 300 next month for the MCSD.
I already did the MCSE and MCDBA.
The 300 will be my last test for a long time.
The reading and studying will continue though of course.
I sure wish I could afford a copy of Rational software.
Glenn
"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#JeCSBZxCHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP11...
> I'm not interested in the near future to approach this exam. I got the
MCAD
> and waiting for the results for 71-300 and hopefully I'm MCSD.NET. I just
> need to pass 215 and get MCDBA and this is it with MS certification.
>
> I prefer to spend time taking the IBM UML exam and then maybe I will try
the
> IEEE certification.
>
> Too bad the Rational certifications are only for partner companies.
>
> Danut
>
> "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eHVPbHYxCHA.2536@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > Thanks.
> > I wasn't thinking as I should have done the search as well.
> > Anyone read any of these and would like to give an opinion ??
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn
> > "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
> > >
> > > programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
> > > by Richard Grimes
> > >
> >
>
[
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> > > -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > >
> > > Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced Programmers
> > >
> >
>[/color]
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color=darkred]
> > > -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > >
> > > Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> > > by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
> > >
> >
>[/color]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893115283/qid=1043615694/sr=8[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > >
> > > The same books can be found at
> > > [url]http://www.bookpool.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...ww.bookpool.com
> > > at a lower price.
> > >
> > > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > > > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is different
> from
> > > C++
> > > > in VS6.
> > > > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual studio[/color]
6
> > but
> > > > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Glenn
> > > > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >So what?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > > > thought
> > > > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
|
| Xref: nntp3.aus1.giganews.com microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcsd:17256
Good luck with 70-300! I really enjoyed the beta exam even it was pretty
long (about 5 hours).
I do not have the Rational software and I cannot afford but I've heard that
they have a certification related to OOA/OOD and UML principles and this is
what I would be interested in.
If I will ever need to work with Rational or Vision or other tool I'm pretty
sure I can learn very fast.
I played with the evaluation version about two years ago.
Danut
"Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:OazwXLZxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> I take the 300 next month for the MCSD.
> I already did the MCSE and MCDBA.
> The 300 will be my last test for a long time.
> The reading and studying will continue though of course.
>
> I sure wish I could afford a copy of Rational software.
> Glenn
> "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#JeCSBZxCHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP11...
> > I'm not interested in the near future to approach this exam. I got the
> MCAD
> > and waiting for the results for 71-300 and hopefully I'm MCSD.NET. I
just
> > need to pass 215 and get MCDBA and this is it with MS certification.
> >
> > I prefer to spend time taking the IBM UML exam and then maybe I will try
> the
> > IEEE certification.
> >
> > Too bad the Rational certifications are only for partner companies.
> >
> > Danut
> >
> > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:eHVPbHYxCHA.2536@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > Thanks.
> > > I wasn't thinking as I should have done the search as well.
> > > Anyone read any of these and would like to give an opinion ??
> > > Thanks,
> > > Glenn
> > > "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > > A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
> > > >
> > > > programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
> > > > by Richard Grimes
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
[
color=darkred]
> > > > -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > >
> > > > Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced[/color]
Programmers
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/013045821X/qid=1043615694/sr=8[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > > -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > >
> > > > Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> > > > by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
> > > >
> > >
> >
>[/color]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893115283/qid=1043615694/sr=8[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > > -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > >
> > > > The same books can be found at
> > > > [url]http://www.bookpool.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...ww.bookpool.com
> > > > at a lower price.
> > > >
> > > > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > > > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > > > > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is[/color]
different
> > from
> > > > C++
> > > > > in VS6.
> > > > > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual
studio
> 6
> > > but
> > > > > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > > > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > > > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > > > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > > > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > > > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > > > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > > > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > > > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >So what?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > > > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > > > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > > > > thought
> > > > > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Glenn D. Crosse 2003-01-26, 6:23 pm |
| I used to use Rational Rose as part of a large Smalltalk project. It is very
good.
I am still figuring out VS Architect and Visio. Doesn't look as nearly as
good.
Glenn
"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eAWaySZxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> Good luck with 70-300! I really enjoyed the beta exam even it was pretty
> long (about 5 hours).
>
> I do not have the Rational software and I cannot afford but I've heard
that
> they have a certification related to OOA/OOD and UML principles and this
is
> what I would be interested in.
>
> If I will ever need to work with Rational or Vision or other tool I'm
pretty
> sure I can learn very fast.
>
> I played with the evaluation version about two years ago.
>
> Danut
>
> "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:OazwXLZxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > I take the 300 next month for the MCSD.
> > I already did the MCSE and MCDBA.
> > The 300 will be my last test for a long time.
> > The reading and studying will continue though of course.
> >
> > I sure wish I could afford a copy of Rational software.
> > Glenn
> > "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:#JeCSBZxCHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP11...
> > > I'm not interested in the near future to approach this exam. I got the
> > MCAD
> > > and waiting for the results for 71-300 and hopefully I'm MCSD.NET. I
> just
> > > need to pass 215 and get MCDBA and this is it with MS certification.
> > >
> > > I prefer to spend time taking the IBM UML exam and then maybe I will
try
> > the
> > > IEEE certification.
> > >
> > > Too bad the Rational certifications are only for partner companies.
> > >
> > > Danut
> > >
> > > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:eHVPbHYxCHA.2536@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > I wasn't thinking as I should have done the search as well.
> > > > Anyone read any of these and would like to give an opinion ??
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Glenn
> > > > "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > > > A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
> > > > >
> > > > > programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
> > > > > by Richard Grimes
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
[
color=darkred]
> > > > > -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > > >
> > > > > Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced
> Programmers[color
=darkred]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >[/color]
>[/color]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/013045821X/qid=1043615694/sr=8[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > > > -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > > >
> > > > > Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> > > > > by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>[/color]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893115283/qid=1043615694/sr=8[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > > > -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > > >
> > > > > The same books can be found at
> > > > > [url]http://www.bookpool.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...ww.bookpool.com
> > > > > at a lower price.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > > > > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > > > > > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is
> different
> > > from
> > > > > C++
> > > > > > in VS6.
> > > > > > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual
> studio
> > 6
> > > > but
> > > > > > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > > > > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > > > > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > > > > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > > > > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > > > > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > > > > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > > > > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > > > > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >So what?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > > > > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > > > > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Mike
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Paulo Reichert 2003-01-27, 2:23 am |
| Well, stated...
I saw it last time on November, but now I can't see it anymore...
It was here: http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/mcsd/faq.asp
Cheers...
"Nihilist Coder" <nihilistcoder@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vxSY9.17449$LA4.1645747@news1.west.cox.net...
> > Anyway, on the MCSD FAQ Microsoft says that plans about exams based on
C++
> > and J# are expected to be released soon after the release of Visual
Studio
> > .NET 2003...
>
> Where does it state this? I looked everywhere.
>
> > Regards,
> > Paulo
>
>
| |
| Paulo Reichert 2003-01-27, 2:23 am |
| I use VS Ent. Architect with Visio for EA.
I already tried Rational XDE Professional for .NET Developers. I can say
that Rational's software is much more complete, with lot of cool functions,
but maybe I'm a bit obsolete, but I can't use all it's features.
I use Visio for EA to model software on UML and to model databases with ORM.
Usually, databases I create using the tools provided by Visio, but C# code I
prefer to create by hand. The only "advanced" tool that I use is the reverse
engineering.
Due to what I use I decided that Visio is pretty good for me. I can't and
wont afford Rational's solution because it costs too much and is really
heavy. Visio could be simpler, but it's already included in the VS Ent.
Architects and is much lighter in system resources.
Just my two cents... :-)
Paulo
"Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uXPdFVZxCHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> I used to use Rational Rose as part of a large Smalltalk project. It is
very
> good.
> I am still figuring out VS Architect and Visio. Doesn't look as nearly as
> good.
> Glenn
> "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eAWaySZxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > Good luck with 70-300! I really enjoyed the beta exam even it was pretty
> > long (about 5 hours).
> >
> > I do not have the Rational software and I cannot afford but I've heard
> that
> > they have a certification related to OOA/OOD and UML principles and this
> is
> > what I would be interested in.
> >
> > If I will ever need to work with Rational or Vision or other tool I'm
> pretty
> > sure I can learn very fast.
> >
> > I played with the evaluation version about two years ago.
> >
> > Danut
> >
> > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:OazwXLZxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > I take the 300 next month for the MCSD.
> > > I already did the MCSE and MCDBA.
> > > The 300 will be my last test for a long time.
> > > The reading and studying will continue though of course.
> > >
> > > I sure wish I could afford a copy of Rational software.
> > > Glenn
> > > "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#JeCSBZxCHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP11...
> > > > I'm not interested in the near future to approach this exam. I got
the[c
olor=darkred]
> > > MCAD
> > > > and waiting for the results for 71-300 and hopefully I'm MCSD.NET. I
> > just
> > > > need to pass 215 and get MCDBA and this is it with MS certification.
> > > >
> > > > I prefer to spend time taking the IBM UML exam and then maybe I will
> try
> > > the
> > > > IEEE certification.
> > > >
> > > > Too bad the Rational certifications are only for partner companies.
> > > >
> > > > Danut
> > > >
> > > > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:eHVPbHYxCHA.2536@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > I wasn't thinking as I should have done the search as well.
> > > > > Anyone read any of these and would like to give an opinion ??
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > > "Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > > > > A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++[/color]
.. NET[c
olor=darkred]
> > > > > > by Richard Grimes
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>[/color]
[
color=darkred]
> > > > > > -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced
> > Programmers
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>[/color]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/013045821X/qid=1043615694/sr=8[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > > > > -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> > > > > > by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>[/color]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893115283/qid=1043615694/sr=8[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > > > > -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The same books can be found at
> > > > > > [url]http://www.bookpool.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...ww.bookpool.com
> > > > > > at a lower price.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > > > > > > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > > > > > > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is
> > different
> > > > from
> > > > > > C++
> > > > > > > in VS6.
> > > > > > > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual
> > studio
> > > 6
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > > > > > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > > > > > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > > > > > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > > > > > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > > > > > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > > > > > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > > > > > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > > > > > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > >So what?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > > > > > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > > > > > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Mike
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Glenn D. Crosse 2003-01-28, 5:23 pm |
| I received the C++ book today that you referred me to by R. Grimes.
I have browsed it and will read it several times, I am sure.
Great pointer Danut.
I appreciate it.
Glenn
"Danut" <danutzp1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eRGyVBYxCHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> A search on Amazon.com brings up three titles:
>
> programming with Managed Extensions for Microsoft Visual C++ .NET
> by Richard Grimes
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -1/ref=sr_8_1/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> Visual C ++ .NET: A Managed Code Approach for Experienced Programmers
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -2/ref=sr_8_2/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> Essential Guide to Managed Extensions for C++
> by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...1043615694/sr=8
> -3/ref=sr_8_3/002-8598443-8236053?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
> The same books can be found at
> http://www.bookpool.com
> at a lower price.
>
> "Glenn D. Crosse" <glenncrosse@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:udA9B#XxCHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > Is there a good book on Managed C++ ??
> > I would like to read about how exactly the Managed C++ is different from
> C++
> > in VS6.
> > I have a lot of experience with C# and the old C++ in visual studio 6
but
> > would like to exploit the new features of Managed C++.
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn
> > "Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:079901c2c484$8ae0f140$d7f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA14...
> > > So, there's been curiosity and speculation on this board
> > > as to whether there would be a Managed C++.NET component
> > > to the MCSD.NET cert. There hasn't been, to my knowledge,
> > > any verification, either on MS's Train/Cert. site nor on
> > > this board (particularly from any of the MS folks), of a
> > > new C++ exam. And actually since the most recent thread
> > > regarding this was this week, I thought somebody on here
> > > might be interested in this related bit.
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >So what?
> > > >
> > > >"Michael Favro" <MikeL1020@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:096f01c2c402$8ab5e3b0$8af
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
> > > >> I was cruising around (lord knows why) and found this:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > http://members.microsoft.com/partne...ing/programs/ce
> > > >> rtifiedpartner/CertReqexams.aspx
> > > >>
> > > >> Check out exam 70-304.
> > > >>
> > > >> I remember a thread a few weeks ago about this and
> > > thought
> > > >> y'all might like to know.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
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