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| Tom Allen 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| Any feedback from the early test takers? I'm taking it in two days.
Tom
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| Jason Mauss 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| A friend of mine (MCSD, MCDBA, MCT) took it and quit after 20 questions,
saying it was "way beyond what he expected". Apparently it's pretty tough.
Make sure you know about security for Web Services, Serviced Components,
etc.
Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but, considering I'm taking it
Thursday, it's not what I wanted to hear either :-(
----Jason
www.vsdotnetguru.com
"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:#CfRYdyFCHA.2240@tkmsftngp05...
> Any feedback from the early test takers? I'm taking it in two days.
>
> Tom
>
>
| |
|
| I think recent MS exams group questions by topic. So assuming your friend
did those 20 questions in order, it would likely present a skewed impression
of what's emphasized on the exam.
And the MS exam outline does have some entries related to security. Fair
warning? I'll find out on Sunday. 
Under "Creating and Managing Microsoft Windows® Services, Serviced
Components, .NET Remoting Objects, and XML Web Services"
* Implement security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a .NET
Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
Under "Deploying Windows Services, Serviced Components, .NET Remoting
Objects, and XML Web Services"
* Configure security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a .NET
Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
* Configure authentication type. Authentication types include Windows
authentication, Microsoft .NET Passport, custom authentication, and none.
* Configure and control authorization. Authorization methods include
file-based authorization and URL-based authorization.
* Configure and implement identity management.
"Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
news:#U$8ly0FCHA.2540@tkmsftngp05...
> A friend of mine (MCSD, MCDBA, MCT) took it and quit after 20 questions,
> saying it was "way beyond what he expected". Apparently it's pretty tough.
> Make sure you know about security for Web Services, Serviced Components,
> etc.
>
> Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but, considering I'm taking it
> Thursday, it's not what I wanted to hear either :-(
| |
| Jason Mauss 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| True. I never said MS didn't warn us... and in fact it's made me go back and
study up more on security...
----Jason
"Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
news:ecyfw#5FCHA.1424@tkmsftngp04...
> I think recent MS exams group questions by topic. So assuming your friend
> did those 20 questions in order, it would likely present a skewed
impression
> of what's emphasized on the exam.
>
> And the MS exam outline does have some entries related to security. Fair
> warning? I'll find out on Sunday.
>
> Under "Creating and Managing Microsoft Windows® Services, Serviced
> Components, .NET Remoting Objects, and XML Web Services"
> * Implement security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a .NET
> Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> Under "Deploying Windows Services, Serviced Components, .NET Remoting
> Objects, and XML Web Services"
> * Configure security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a .NET
> Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> * Configure authentication type. Authentication types include Windows
> authentication, Microsoft .NET Passport, custom authentication, and none.
> * Configure and control authorization. Authorization methods include
> file-based authorization and URL-based authorization.
> * Configure and implement identity management.
>
> "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> news:#U$8ly0FCHA.2540@tkmsftngp05...
> > A friend of mine (MCSD, MCDBA, MCT) took it and quit after 20 questions,
> > saying it was "way beyond what he expected". Apparently it's pretty
tough.
> > Make sure you know about security for Web Services, Serviced Components,
> > etc.
> >
> > Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but, considering I'm taking
it
> > Thursday, it's not what I wanted to hear either :-(
>
>
| |
| Tom Allen 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| Here's a very good 29 page whitepaper on your options for configuring
ASP.Net security.
"Authentication in ASP .NET: .NET Security Guidance"
available in Visual Studio help (and MSDN library).
ms-help://MS.VSCC/MS.MSDNVS/dnbda/html/authaspdotnet.htm
-- Tom
"Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
news:OYK#9h6FCHA.2392@tkmsftngp04...
> True. I never said MS didn't warn us... and in fact it's made me go back
and
> study up more on security...
>
> ----Jason
>
> "Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
> news:ecyfw#5FCHA.1424@tkmsftngp04...
> > I think recent MS exams group questions by topic. So assuming your
friend
> > did those 20 questions in order, it would likely present a skewed
> impression
> > of what's emphasized on the exam.
> >
> > And the MS exam outline does have some entries related to security. Fair
> > warning? I'll find out on Sunday.
> >
> > Under "Creating and Managing Microsoft Windows® Services, Serviced
> > Components, .NET Remoting Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > * Implement security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a .NET
> > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > Under "Deploying Windows Services, Serviced Components, .NET Remoting
> > Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > * Configure security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a .NET
> > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > * Configure authentication type. Authentication types include Windows
> > authentication, Microsoft .NET Passport, custom authentication, and
none.
> > * Configure and control authorization. Authorization methods include
> > file-based authorization and URL-based authorization.
> > * Configure and implement identity management.
> >
> > "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> > news:#U$8ly0FCHA.2540@tkmsftngp05...
> > > A friend of mine (MCSD, MCDBA, MCT) took it and quit after 20
questions,
> > > saying it was "way beyond what he expected". Apparently it's pretty
> tough.
> > > Make sure you know about security for Web Services, Serviced
Components,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but, considering I'm
taking
> it
> > > Thursday, it's not what I wanted to hear either :-(
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Jason Mauss 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| That will be good for when I take the ASP.NET beta exam later...I'm not sure
how much it will help for serviced components, web services and Windows
Services....
I'm looking for stuff more like how to inherit from the SOAPHeader class to
implement security using SOAP extensions, etc.
----Jason
"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:#ENCK66FCHA.2436@tkmsftngp08...
> Here's a very good 29 page whitepaper on your options for configuring
> ASP.Net security.
> "Authentication in ASP .NET: .NET Security Guidance"
> available in Visual Studio help (and MSDN library).
> ms-help://MS.VSCC/MS.MSDNVS/dnbda/html/authaspdotnet.htm
>
> -- Tom
>
> "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> news:OYK#9h6FCHA.2392@tkmsftngp04...
> > True. I never said MS didn't warn us... and in fact it's made me go back
> and
> > study up more on security...
> >
> > ----Jason
> >
> > "Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
> > news:ecyfw#5FCHA.1424@tkmsftngp04...
> > > I think recent MS exams group questions by topic. So assuming your
> friend
> > > did those 20 questions in order, it would likely present a skewed
> > impression
> > > of what's emphasized on the exam.
> > >
> > > And the MS exam outline does have some entries related to security.
Fair[
color=darkred]
> > > warning? I'll find out on Sunday.
> > >
> > > Under "Creating and Managing Microsoft Windows® Services, Serviced
> > > Components, .NET Remoting Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > > * Implement security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a[/color]
.. NET[c
olor=darkred]
> > > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > > Under "Deploying Windows Services, Serviced Components, .NET Remoting
> > > Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > > * Configure security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a[/color]
.. NET[c
olor=darkred]
> > > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > > * Configure authentication type. Authentication types include[/color]
Windows
> > > authentication, Microsoft .NET Passport, custom authentication, and
> none.
> > > * Configure and control authorization. Authorization methods
include
> > > file-based authorization and URL-based authorization.
> > > * Configure and implement identity management.
> > >
> > > "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#U$8ly0FCHA.2540@tkmsftngp05...
> > > > A friend of mine (MCSD, MCDBA, MCT) took it and quit after 20
> questions,
> > > > saying it was "way beyond what he expected". Apparently it's pretty
> > tough.
> > > > Make sure you know about security for Web Services, Serviced
> Components,[color
=darkred]
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but, considering I'm
> taking
> > it
> > > > Thursday, it's not what I wanted to hear either :-(
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Tom Allen 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| The article has a special section on security for web services, starting on
page 14 of 19, including remoting channel security on page 17.
- tom
"Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
news:eNsbvG7FCHA.2732@tkmsftngp04...
> That will be good for when I take the ASP.NET beta exam later...I'm not
sure
> how much it will help for serviced components, web services and Windows
> Services....
>
> I'm looking for stuff more like how to inherit from the SOAPHeader class
to
> implement security using SOAP extensions, etc.
>
> ----Jason
>
> "Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:#ENCK66FCHA.2436@tkmsftngp08...
> > Here's a very good 29 page whitepaper on your options for configuring
> > ASP.Net security.
> > "Authentication in ASP .NET: .NET Security Guidance"
> > available in Visual Studio help (and MSDN library).
> > ms-help://MS.VSCC/MS.MSDNVS/dnbda/html/authaspdotnet.htm
> >
> > -- Tom
> >
> > "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> > news:OYK#9h6FCHA.2392@tkmsftngp04...
> > > True. I never said MS didn't warn us... and in fact it's made me go
back
> > and
> > > study up more on security...
> > >
> > > ----Jason
> > >
> > > "Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
> > > news:ecyfw#5FCHA.1424@tkmsftngp04...
> > > > I think recent MS exams group questions by topic. So assuming your
> > friend
> > > > did those 20 questions in order, it would likely present a skewed
> > > impression
> > > > of what's emphasized on the exam.
> > > >
> > > > And the MS exam outline does have some entries related to security.
> Fair
> > > > warning? I'll find out on Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Under "Creating and Managing Microsoft Windows® Services, Serviced
> > > > Components, .NET Remoting Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > > > * Implement security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a
> . NET
> > > > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > > > Under "Deploying Windows Services, Serviced Components, .NET
Remoting
> > > > Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > > > * Configure security for a Windows service, a serviced component, a
> . NET
> > > > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > > > * Configure authentication type. Authentication types include
> Windows
> > > > authentication, Microsoft .NET Passport, custom authentication, and
> > none.
> > > > * Configure and control authorization. Authorization methods
> include
> > > > file-based authorization and URL-based authorization.
> > > > * Configure and implement identity management.
> > > >
> > > > "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:#U$8ly0FCHA.2540@tkmsftngp05...
> > > > > A friend of mine (MCSD, MCDBA, MCT) took it and quit after 20
> > questions,
> > > > > saying it was "way beyond what he expected". Apparently it's
pretty
> > > tough.
> > > > > Make sure you know about security for Web Services, Serviced
> > Components,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but, considering I'm
> > taking
> > > it
> > > > > Thursday, it's not what I wanted to hear either :-(
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Jason Mauss 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| I'm off to take this exam in a few hours, wish me luck! :-D
----Jason
"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:OfItZa7FCHA.2652@tkmsftngp09...
> The article has a special section on security for web services, starting
on
> page 14 of 19, including remoting channel security on page 17.
>
> - tom
>
> "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> news:eNsbvG7FCHA.2732@tkmsftngp04...
> > That will be good for when I take the ASP.NET beta exam later...I'm not
> sure
> > how much it will help for serviced components, web services and Windows
> > Services....
> >
> > I'm looking for stuff more like how to inherit from the SOAPHeader class
> to
> > implement security using SOAP extensions, etc.
> >
> > ----Jason
> >
> > "Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:#ENCK66FCHA.2436@tkmsftngp08...
> > > Here's a very good 29 page whitepaper on your options for configuring
> > > ASP.Net security.
> > > "Authentication in ASP .NET: .NET Security Guidance"
> > > available in Visual Studio help (and MSDN library).
> > > ms-help://MS.VSCC/MS.MSDNVS/dnbda/html/authaspdotnet.htm
> > >
> > > -- Tom
> > >
> > > "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OYK#9h6FCHA.2392@tkmsftngp04...
> > > > True. I never said MS didn't warn us... and in fact it's made me go
> back
> > > and
> > > > study up more on security...
> > > >
> > > > ----Jason
> > > >
> > > > "Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
> > > > news:ecyfw#5FCHA.1424@tkmsftngp04...
> > > > > I think recent MS exams group questions by topic. So assuming your
> > > friend
> > > > > did those 20 questions in order, it would likely present a skewed
> > > > impression
> > > > > of what's emphasized on the exam.
> > > > >
> > > > > And the MS exam outline does have some entries related to
security.
> > Fair
> > > > > warning? I'll find out on Sunday.
> > > > >
> > > > > Under "Creating and Managing Microsoft Windows® Services, Serviced
> > > > > Components, .NET Remoting Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > > > > * Implement security for a Windows service, a serviced component,
a
> > .NET
> > > > > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > > > > Under "Deploying Windows Services, Serviced Components, .NET
> Remoting
> > > > > Objects, and XML Web Services"
> > > > > * Configure security for a Windows service, a serviced component,
a
> > .NET
> > > > > Remoting object, and an XML Web service.
> > > > > * Configure authentication type. Authentication types include
> > Windows
> > > > > authentication, Microsoft .NET Passport, custom authentication,
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > none.
> > > > > * Configure and control authorization. Authorization methods
> > include
> > > > > file-based authorization and URL-based authorization.
> > > > > * Configure and implement identity management.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jason Mauss" <JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:#U$8ly0FCHA.2540@tkmsftngp05...
> > > > > > A friend of mine (MCSD, MCDBA, MCT) took it and quit after 20
> > > questions,
> > > > > > saying it was "way beyond what he expected". Apparently it's
> pretty
> > > > tough.
> > > > > > Make sure you know about security for Web Services, Serviced
> > > Components,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but, considering I'm
> > > taking
> > > > it
> > > > > > Thursday, it's not what I wanted to hear either :-(
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Murali 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| Wish you Good luck Jason. Please post your feedback once
you are done with it :-). I have to take it on sunday
| |
| Al Manint 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| I'm taking it on Monday and thought about a full weekend cram session.
Aught to be interesting.
Al Manint, MCSD, MCDBA
"Murali" <murali@msonline.com> wrote in message
news:ef6d01c21893$cae54f40$37e
f2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
> Wish you Good luck Jason. Please post your feedback once
> you are done with it :-). I have to take it on sunday
| |
| Tom Allen 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
|
"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:#CfRYdyFCHA.2240@tkmsftngp05...
> Any feedback from the early test takers? I'm taking it in two days.
>
> Tom
>
>
| |
| Tom Allen 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| Well, I took it. And good luck to the rest of you! ;-)
3 hours, 90 questions.
Biggest surprize: The current prep book listed by Microsoft, "Building XML
Web Services", only covers about 60% of the topics in the exam. There are
probably as many Remoting Service questions as there are ASP.Net Web Service
questions. While the recommended book didn't provide great coverage, I have
to admit that I was warned. The skills listed at this link are a good match
for the test: http://microsoft.com/traincert/exams/70-310.asp#SKILLS
There were a fair number of questions (20%?) that overlap with the Web
Applications study material ("ASP.Net Steb by Step" and "ADO.Net Step by
Step"). Lots of data access questions. A fair number of security
questions.
Another 20% of the questions weren't covered in any material that I had
studied for MCAD, such as COM+, component registrations, non-managed code
and Windows Services.
Good Luck!
Tom
"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:#CfRYdyFCHA.2240@tkmsftngp05...
> Any feedback from the early test takers? I'm taking it in two days.
>
> Tom
>
>
| |
|
| Thank you for the feedback, and I hope you have passed!
I believe you about the book only covering 60% of exam, I have been looking
at the skill list and not finding the material in the book.
Two areas you did not mention was Deployment, and Debugging. Were these
topics covered?
--
Ralph Page
MBA, MCDBA, MCSE
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"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:#StmwTKGCHA.1852@tkmsftngp12...
> Well, I took it. And good luck to the rest of you! ;-)
>
> 3 hours, 90 questions.
>
> Biggest surprize: The current prep book listed by Microsoft, "Building XML
> Web Services", only covers about 60% of the topics in the exam. There are
> probably as many Remoting Service questions as there are ASP.Net Web
Service
> questions. While the recommended book didn't provide great coverage, I
have
> to admit that I was warned. The skills listed at this link are a good
match
> for the test: http://microsoft.com/traincert/exams/70-310.asp#SKILLS
>
> There were a fair number of questions (20%?) that overlap with the Web
> Applications study material ("ASP.Net Steb by Step" and "ADO.Net Step by
> Step"). Lots of data access questions. A fair number of security
> questions.
>
> Another 20% of the questions weren't covered in any material that I had
> studied for MCAD, such as COM+, component registrations, non-managed code
> and Windows Services.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Tom
| |
| Jason Mauss 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| I must agree with Tom, chances are we took the same exam pretty much.
BTW, if you want to know what I think about the study guides MS Press is
putting out, go to www.angrycoder.com and see what I wrote. The study guide
isn't going to help you pass. It's that simple.
I was surprised on how much they tested on security-related issues. Lot's of
questions on authentication-related issues.
Lots of .NET Remoting too. I mostly read .NET SDK Docs to study on Remoting
and felt unprepared.
Fair number of questions regarding ADO.NET classes too.
if you want to chat more about it :
MSN Messenger : jamauss@hotmail.com
Yahoo IM : jamauss
ICQ : 9157443
Regards,
----Jason
"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:#StmwTKGCHA.1852@tkmsftngp12...
> Well, I took it. And good luck to the rest of you! ;-)
>
> 3 hours, 90 questions.
>
> Biggest surprize: The current prep book listed by Microsoft, "Building XML
> Web Services", only covers about 60% of the topics in the exam. There are
> probably as many Remoting Service questions as there are ASP.Net Web
Service
> questions. While the recommended book didn't provide great coverage, I
have
> to admit that I was warned. The skills listed at this link are a good
match
> for the test: http://microsoft.com/traincert/exams/70-310.asp#SKILLS
>
> There were a fair number of questions (20%?) that overlap with the Web
> Applications study material ("ASP.Net Steb by Step" and "ADO.Net Step by
> Step"). Lots of data access questions. A fair number of security
> questions.
>
> Another 20% of the questions weren't covered in any material that I had
> studied for MCAD, such as COM+, component registrations, non-managed code
> and Windows Services.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:#CfRYdyFCHA.2240@tkmsftngp05...
> > Any feedback from the early test takers? I'm taking it in two days.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Somchai U. 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| Thanks for your information. I has no doubt why you encounter many
..NET remoting questions. This technology is specific to Microsoft,
(unlike web services and SOAP, this is de facto industry standard.)
Microsoft want you to learn its own technology.
Somchai U.
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:14:37 -0700, "Jason Mauss"
<JasonMauss@vsdotnetguru.com> wrote:
>I must agree with Tom, chances are we took the same exam pretty much.
>
>BTW, if you want to know what I think about the study guides MS Press is
>putting out, go to www.angrycoder.com and see what I wrote. The study guide
>isn't going to help you pass. It's that simple.
>
>I was surprised on how much they tested on security-related issues. Lot's of
>questions on authentication-related issues.
>
>Lots of .NET Remoting too. I mostly read .NET SDK Docs to study on Remoting
>and felt unprepared.
>
>Fair number of questions regarding ADO.NET classes too.
>
>if you want to chat more about it :
>
>MSN Messenger : jamauss@hotmail.com
>Yahoo IM : jamauss
>ICQ : 9157443
>
>Regards,
>----Jason
>
>
>"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:#StmwTKGCHA.1852@tkmsftngp12...
>> Well, I took it. And good luck to the rest of you! ;-)
>>
>> 3 hours, 90 questions.
>>
>> Biggest surprize: The current prep book listed by Microsoft, "Building XML
>> Web Services", only covers about 60% of the topics in the exam. There are
>> probably as many Remoting Service questions as there are ASP.Net Web
>Service
>> questions. While the recommended book didn't provide great coverage, I
>have
>> to admit that I was warned. The skills listed at this link are a good
>match
>> for the test: http://microsoft.com/traincert/exams/70-310.asp#SKILLS
>>
>> There were a fair number of questions (20%?) that overlap with the Web
>> Applications study material ("ASP.Net Steb by Step" and "ADO.Net Step by
>> Step"). Lots of data access questions. A fair number of security
>> questions.
>>
>> Another 20% of the questions weren't covered in any material that I had
>> studied for MCAD, such as COM+, component registrations, non-managed code
>> and Windows Services.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:#CfRYdyFCHA.2240@tkmsftngp05...
>> > Any feedback from the early test takers? I'm taking it in two days.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
| |
| Tom Allen 2002-06-22, 7:15 pm |
| Re: Debugging and Deployment questions:
Debugging: There was a question about how to control the output of your
application as it passes from development into test and then production.
Deployment: There were a number of questions about deploying assemblies and
components to development and for delivery to customers.
- Tom
"Me2" <r@r.com> wrote in message news:OZ2Xe8KGCHA.2684@tkmsftngp09...
> Thank you for the feedback, and I hope you have passed!
>
> I believe you about the book only covering 60% of exam, I have been
looking
> at the skill list and not finding the material in the book.
>
> Two areas you did not mention was Deployment, and Debugging. Were these
> topics covered?
>
> --
>
> Ralph Page
> MBA, MCDBA, MCSE
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> "To plant trees is to give body and life to one's dreams of a better
world."
> -- Russell Page
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> "Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:#StmwTKGCHA.1852@tkmsftngp12...
> > Well, I took it. And good luck to the rest of you! ;-)
> >
> > 3 hours, 90 questions.
> >
> > Biggest surprize: The current prep book listed by Microsoft, "Building
XML
> > Web Services", only covers about 60% of the topics in the exam. There
are
> > probably as many Remoting Service questions as there are ASP.Net Web
> Service
> > questions. While the recommended book didn't provide great coverage, I
> have
> > to admit that I was warned. The skills listed at this link are a good
> match
> > for the test: http://microsoft.com/traincert/exams/70-310.asp#SKILLS
> >
> > There were a fair number of questions (20%?) that overlap with the Web
> > Applications study material ("ASP.Net Steb by Step" and "ADO.Net Step by
> > Step"). Lots of data access questions. A fair number of security
> > questions.
> >
> > Another 20% of the questions weren't covered in any material that I had
> > studied for MCAD, such as COM+, component registrations, non-managed
code
> > and Windows Services.
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Tom
>
>
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| Al Manint 2002-06-24, 11:25 am |
| I just got back from taking the exam. Study COM+! That was my weakest area
on the exam. Remoting was tough but not impossible. Everything else was
pretty easy as far as I could tell. Any other comments?
--Al
"Al Manint" <al_manint@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uDHoCkJGCHA.1988@tkmsftngp08...
> I'm taking it on Monday and thought about a full weekend cram session.
> Aught to be interesting.
>
> Al Manint, MCSD, MCDBA
>
> "Murali" <murali@msonline.com> wrote in message
> news:ef6d01c21893$cae54f40$37e
f2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
> > Wish you Good luck Jason. Please post your feedback once
> > you are done with it :-). I have to take it on sunday
>
>
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| Ignacio Machin 2002-06-24, 12:25 pm |
| hi Al
Can you be more specific please, you meant with COM+ the interop feature?
I'm taking it tomorrow morning.
--
Ignacio Machin
Senior System Analyst.
Bitcore, Inc.
Miami, FL 33172
MCSD ( VB6 )
MCP: VB.NET Windows Apps
MCP: SQL 2K
"Al Manint" <al_manint@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u$igQE6GCHA.436@tkmsftngp11...
> I just got back from taking the exam. Study COM+! That was my weakest
area
> on the exam. Remoting was tough but not impossible. Everything else was
> pretty easy as far as I could tell. Any other comments?
>
> --Al
>
> "Al Manint" <al_manint@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uDHoCkJGCHA.1988@tkmsftngp08...
> > I'm taking it on Monday and thought about a full weekend cram session.
> > Aught to be interesting.
> >
> > Al Manint, MCSD, MCDBA
> >
> > "Murali" <murali@msonline.com> wrote in message
> > news:ef6d01c21893$cae54f40$37e
f2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
> > > Wish you Good luck Jason. Please post your feedback once
> > > you are done with it :-). I have to take it on sunday
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Al Manint 2002-06-25, 9:25 am |
| Well,
You have taken it by now, but I was talking about writing components
consumed by com+ and the directives to get this done. I don't want to give
a bunch of examples b/c of the NDA but all the transactional aspects are one
of the things.
--Al
"Ignacio Machin" <machin@bitcore.com> wrote in message
news:OF3iVT6GCHA.2372@tkmsftngp12...
> hi Al
>
> Can you be more specific please, you meant with COM+ the interop feature?
> I'm taking it tomorrow morning.
>
>
> --
> Ignacio Machin
> Senior System Analyst.
> Bitcore, Inc.
> Miami, FL 33172
> MCSD ( VB6 )
> MCP: VB.NET Windows Apps
> MCP: SQL 2K
>
>
> "Al Manint" <al_manint@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u$igQE6GCHA.436@tkmsftngp11...
> > I just got back from taking the exam. Study COM+! That was my weakest
> area
> > on the exam. Remoting was tough but not impossible. Everything else
was
> > pretty easy as far as I could tell. Any other comments?
> >
> > --Al
> >
> > "Al Manint" <al_manint@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:uDHoCkJGCHA.1988@tkmsftngp08...
> > > I'm taking it on Monday and thought about a full weekend cram session.
> > > Aught to be interesting.
> > >
> > > Al Manint, MCSD, MCDBA
> > >
> > > "Murali" <murali@msonline.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ef6d01c21893$cae54f40$37e
f2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
> > > > Wish you Good luck Jason. Please post your feedback once
> > > > you are done with it :-). I have to take it on sunday
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Keith Nicholson 2002-06-25, 4:25 pm |
| I just took the test and I would consider this one of the more difficult
exams with all the COM+, .NET Remoting, and lots of SQL. The exam was very
broad and deep. I spent a lot of time learning Web Services, and found very
little of it in the exam. I would have thought with all the marketing push,
this would have been focused on more.
I would be very curious to know the pass/fail ratio on this one.
Keith
"Tom Allen" <tca9@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:#CfRYdyFCHA.2240@tkmsftngp05...
> Any feedback from the early test takers? I'm taking it in two days.
>
> Tom
>
>
| |
|
| Right on!! This exam is a BEAR.
And don't forget all the configuration questions.
I am currently studying for the 315 exam, and in comparing the subject areas
from MS site, the amount of material knowledge needed between the two exams
is like night and day.
I guess 310/320 will be like 216 of the MCSE track.
--
Ralph Page
MBA, MCDBA, MCSE
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"Keith Nicholson" <knicholson@ksdynamics.com> wrote in message
news:uculqRJHCHA.2408@tkmsftngp13...
> I just took the test and I would consider this one of the more difficult
> exams with all the COM+, .NET Remoting, and lots of SQL. The exam was
very
> broad and deep. I spent a lot of time learning Web Services, and found
very
> little of it in the exam. I would have thought with all the marketing
push,
> this would have been focused on more.
>
> I would be very curious to know the pass/fail ratio on this one.
>
> Keith
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