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Keith Harrison

2002-11-15, 7:23 am

I've just received this month's copy of the MCP newsletter
and noted an interesting offer of a free years
subscription to Windows & .NET Magazine. Now, I thought,
that sound like a good deal until I noticed that the deal
only includes people living in the USA and Canada! But its
OK cause people living outside the USA and Canada can get
the magazine at a discount of only $45! Near enough the
same price the magazine sells for in the US in the first
place.

I live in the UK, outside the US and Canada, as do a large
number of other Microsoft developers, so am left with only
the option of the "discounted" subscription price. Now I
don't know how much Microsoft pays for a stamp but it
wouldn't cost me $45 to send 12 magazines over to the UK.

I feel, not for the first time, people outside the US are
being treated as second-class citizens by Microsoft and I
think I would appreciate not being patronised by a special
offer which is nothing of the sort.

Your thoughts and comments please.

Keith

Philip Q [MVP]

2002-11-15, 9:23 pm

I know what you mean and it's not just MS, it's most other companies which
belive that the US it their only market.

It gets me so made sometimes.

-Philip

"Keith Harrison" <keithharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:18d801c28ca4$3348cf10$89f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA01...
> I've just received this month's copy of the MCP newsletter
> and noted an interesting offer of a free years
> subscription to Windows & .NET Magazine. Now, I thought,
> that sound like a good deal until I noticed that the deal
> only includes people living in the USA and Canada! But its
> OK cause people living outside the USA and Canada can get
> the magazine at a discount of only $45! Near enough the
> same price the magazine sells for in the US in the first
> place.
>
> I live in the UK, outside the US and Canada, as do a large
> number of other Microsoft developers, so am left with only
> the option of the "discounted" subscription price. Now I
> don't know how much Microsoft pays for a stamp but it
> wouldn't cost me $45 to send 12 magazines over to the UK.
>
> I feel, not for the first time, people outside the US are
> being treated as second-class citizens by Microsoft and I
> think I would appreciate not being patronised by a special
> offer which is nothing of the sort.
>
> Your thoughts and comments please.
>
> Keith
>



Aaron

2002-11-17, 10:23 am

I live in the US - so I may be biased - but it may also have to do with
shipping charges, and the demographics that the advertisers are willing to
pay for - so don't blame the publisher - blame the advertisers...

"Philip Q [MVP]" <wisemonk@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:utH#XgRjCHA.1716@tkmsftngp08...
> I know what you mean and it's not just MS, it's most other companies which
> belive that the US it their only market.
>
> It gets me so made sometimes.
>
> -Philip
>
> "Keith Harrison" <keithharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:18d801c28ca4$3348cf10$89f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA01...
> > I've just received this month's copy of the MCP newsletter
> > and noted an interesting offer of a free years
> > subscription to Windows & .NET Magazine. Now, I thought,
> > that sound like a good deal until I noticed that the deal
> > only includes people living in the USA and Canada! But its
> > OK cause people living outside the USA and Canada can get
> > the magazine at a discount of only $45! Near enough the
> > same price the magazine sells for in the US in the first
> > place.
> >
> > I live in the UK, outside the US and Canada, as do a large
> > number of other Microsoft developers, so am left with only
> > the option of the "discounted" subscription price. Now I
> > don't know how much Microsoft pays for a stamp but it
> > wouldn't cost me $45 to send 12 magazines over to the UK.
> >
> > I feel, not for the first time, people outside the US are
> > being treated as second-class citizens by Microsoft and I
> > think I would appreciate not being patronised by a special
> > offer which is nothing of the sort.
> >
> > Your thoughts and comments please.
> >
> > Keith
> >

>
>



Keith Harrison

2002-11-18, 8:23 am

I can't believe it costs very much to send a magazine over
the Atlantic but I can see you point about the advertisers
not agreeing to the offer. I still think though that most
of the companies that advertise in the mag sell plently of
their products in the UK as well as in the rest of europe
& asia, so I think they're being a bit short sited.

>-----Original Message-----
>I live in the US - so I may be biased - but it may also

have to do with
>shipping charges, and the demographics that the

advertisers are willing to
>pay for - so don't blame the publisher - blame the

advertisers...
>
>"Philip Q [MVP]" <wisemonk@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:utH#XgRjCHA.1716@tkmsftngp08...
>> I know what you mean and it's not just MS, it's most

other companies which

>> belive that the US it their only market.
>>
>> It gets me so made sometimes.
>>
>> -Philip
>>
>> "Keith Harrison" <keithharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in

message
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>> > I've just received this month's copy of the MCP

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Somchai U.

2002-11-19, 12:23 am

I agree. Microsoft keep the Country in profile, it should use that.

Somchai

On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 10:27:03 -0500, "Aaron"
<akornbluth@xblueflameinc.com> wrote:

>I live in the US - so I may be biased - but it may also have to do with
>shipping charges, and the demographics that the advertisers are willing to
>pay for - so don't blame the publisher - blame the advertisers...
>
>"Philip Q [MVP]" <wisemonk@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:utH#XgRjCHA.1716@tkmsftngp08...
>> I know what you mean and it's not just MS, it's most other companies which
>> belive that the US it their only market.
>>
>> It gets me so made sometimes.
>>
>> -Philip
>>
>> "Keith Harrison" <keithharrisonuk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:18d801c28ca4$3348cf10$89f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA01...
>> > I've just received this month's copy of the MCP newsletter
>> > and noted an interesting offer of a free years
>> > subscription to Windows & .NET Magazine. Now, I thought,
>> > that sound like a good deal until I noticed that the deal
>> > only includes people living in the USA and Canada! But its
>> > OK cause people living outside the USA and Canada can get
>> > the magazine at a discount of only $45! Near enough the
>> > same price the magazine sells for in the US in the first
>> > place.
>> >
>> > I live in the UK, outside the US and Canada, as do a large
>> > number of other Microsoft developers, so am left with only
>> > the option of the "discounted" subscription price. Now I
>> > don't know how much Microsoft pays for a stamp but it
>> > wouldn't cost me $45 to send 12 magazines over to the UK.
>> >
>> > I feel, not for the first time, people outside the US are
>> > being treated as second-class citizens by Microsoft and I
>> > think I would appreciate not being patronised by a special
>> > offer which is nothing of the sort.
>> >
>> > Your thoughts and comments please.
>> >
>> > Keith
>> >

>>
>>

>


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