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| I know from 70-306 that MS does not give partial credit of
any kind. 4 out of 5 is considered 100% incorrect in MS's
eyes.
>-----Original Message-----
>I have taken 71-300 beta yesterday. And most of my
>questions are of that type 'select all that apply'. I am
>just curious to know how Microsoft will evaluate those
>answers. What if I selected only 3 correct answers if
>there are 4 or 5 correct answers for that type of
>questions. Also for example if there are 4 right answers
>for 1 question, I selected 3 right answers and 1 wrong
>answer. How will MS evaluate those answers?. Anybody has
>any thoughts/ideas on that.
>
>Murali,
>MCAD.NET, MCSD, MCDBA2K, MCSA
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| On case study exams like 70-300, they explicitly say that questions can have
multiple correct answers and partial credit. Whether or not this applies to
any specific question is not something I think they'll ever clarify.
But I think for most multiple choice questions they probably do not offer
partial credit. I expect that's most commonly used for the diagram and tree
building type questions.
"Eric" <dschieff36@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I know from 70-306 that MS does not give partial credit of
> any kind. 4 out of 5 is considered 100% incorrect in MS's
> eyes.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I have taken 71-300 beta yesterday. And most of my
> >questions are of that type 'select all that apply'. I am
> >just curious to know how Microsoft will evaluate those
> >answers. What if I selected only 3 correct answers if
> >there are 4 or 5 correct answers for that type of
> >questions. Also for example if there are 4 right answers
> >for 1 question, I selected 3 right answers and 1 wrong
> >answer. How will MS evaluate those answers?. Anybody has
> >any thoughts/ideas on that.
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| Mano Paul 2002-11-11, 11:23 pm |
| Whatever said and done, I did my 71-300 yesterday and
wished that MS had been more concrete on specifiying the
number of right answers they were expecting.
To make matters worse, when I was about 2 minutes into my
comments sections, I got the "Your time is up and the
section has ended" message. I sure thank God that it did
not happen during my exam. Just pray and hope that my
answers were recorded correctly. I got the screen that
said, your test is complete now, you can expect to get
your results in eight weeks. Does it take that long?
Anyway, the two complaints I have for the 71-300 exam is
that there was more time for comments and that they were
more concrete in the number of answers (if not, MS should
atleast consider partial credit - which I think should be
the right thing to do).
Hopefully, things will all turn out for good. I was
pleased with the overall nature of the test. I think it
was a good attempt to gauge the principles and designing
skills required of an MCSD individual. The case studies
were interesting and somewhat realistic. Budgetary and
Scheduling deadlines were considered in the case (which I
liked). The risks identification was also a good thing
they tested upon. Some questions could have been more
explicit, but hey IT IS A BETA.
Thank you all for posting in this discussion forum. It
helped me a lot, especially Tim. Your codecline is awesome
man. Helped quite a bit.
As promised as soon as I get a chance, I will post some
additional links for the 70-300 exam and let you know.
Cheers,
Mano Paul
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>-----Original Message-----
>On case study exams like 70-300, they explicitly say that
questions can have
>multiple correct answers and partial credit. Whether or
not this applies to
>any specific question is not something I think they'll
ever clarify.
>
>But I think for most multiple choice questions they
probably do not offer
>partial credit. I expect that's most commonly used for
the diagram and tree
>building type questions.
>
>"Eric" <dschieff36@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:da9b01c289cf$9c3d3dd0$2ae
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>> I know from 70-306 that MS does not give partial credit
of
>> any kind. 4 out of 5 is considered 100% incorrect in
MS's
>> eyes.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >I have taken 71-300 beta yesterday. And most of my
>> >questions are of that type 'select all that apply'. I
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>> >just curious to know how Microsoft will evaluate those
>> >answers. What if I selected only 3 correct answers if
>> >there are 4 or 5 correct answers for that type of
>> >questions. Also for example if there are 4 right[/color]
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>> >for 1 question, I selected 3 right answers and 1 wrong
>> >answer. How will MS evaluate those answers?. Anybody
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>> >any thoughts/ideas on that.
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| "Mano Paul" <mano_paul@dell.com> wrote in message
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> I got the screen that
> said, your test is complete now, you can expect to get
> your results in eight weeks. Does it take that long?
That's sort of a worst case prediction, though it'll probably be close to
that. The fastest beta turnaround I've seen was about 5 weeks.
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| Satyaveer Satvat 2002-11-12, 9:23 am |
| It explicitly says before each case study that you will get partial credit
for any answer you choose is right. But I am confused if there are 5 choices
and 4 right, if I include all of them in answer, how they are going to
evaluate. In this case I selected all right answers including one wrong. Any
guess? One more thing after completing exam I did not get print out, did you
guys?
All together it was good, not as hard as I assumed.
"Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
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> "Mano Paul" <mano_paul@dell.com> wrote in message
> news:d01601c28a04$379a3330$37e
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> > I got the screen that
> > said, your test is complete now, you can expect to get
> > your results in eight weeks. Does it take that long?
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> That's sort of a worst case prediction, though it'll probably be close to
> that. The fastest beta turnaround I've seen was about 5 weeks.
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| Levielk 2002-11-12, 9:23 am |
| These questions are scored in certain test engines by
giving a correct mark for each correct decision made
rather than per correct option identified. i.e. if you
select all the answers in a multiple answer multiple
choice question, you will as you say identify all correct
options and each represents a correct decision. However
you will also check options that are wrong and these are
considered as wrong decisions and therefore lead to the
whole question being marked incorrect. I assume that
Microsoft also use this method.
>-----Original Message-----
>It explicitly says before each case study that you will
get partial credit
>for any answer you choose is right. But I am confused if
there are 5 choices
>and 4 right, if I include all of them in answer, how they
are going to
>evaluate. In this case I selected all right answers
including one wrong. Any
>guess? One more thing after completing exam I did not get
print out, did you
>guys?
>
>All together it was good, not as hard as I assumed.
>
>"Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
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>> "Mano Paul" <mano_paul@dell.com> wrote in message
>> news:d01601c28a04$379a3330$37e
f2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
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>> > I got the screen that
>> > said, your test is complete now, you can expect to get
>> > your results in eight weeks. Does it take that long?
>>
>> That's sort of a worst case prediction, though it'll
probably be close to
>> that. The fastest beta turnaround I've seen was about 5
weeks.
>>
>>
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| "Satyaveer Satvat" <ssatvat@hbti.com> wrote in message
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> It explicitly says before each case study that you will get partial credit
> for any answer you choose is right. But I am confused if there are 5
choices
> and 4 right, if I include all of them in answer, how they are going to
> evaluate. In this case I selected all right answers including one wrong.
Any
> guess?
Sure, I can imagine several reasonable ways to score such questions, but I
have no idea how MS actually does it.
> One more thing after completing exam I did not get print out, did you
> guys?
No, this has been Prometric's policy for beta exams for a while now. I
don't like it, and it always confuses the proctor too.
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| Joseph 2002-11-12, 10:23 pm |
| If you want a printout after taking the beta test you can test with VUE. I
had it this time with VUE. But I remember the printout said a longer waiting
time for the exam result than what the screen indicated at the end of the
exam.
Joseph
"Tim" <spammers@begone> wrote in message
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> "Satyaveer Satvat" <ssatvat@hbti.com> wrote in message
> news:uyPC2qliCHA.2664@tkmsftngp11...
> > It explicitly says before each case study that you will get partial
credit
> > for any answer you choose is right. But I am confused if there are 5
> choices
> > and 4 right, if I include all of them in answer, how they are going to
> > evaluate. In this case I selected all right answers including one wrong.
> Any
> > guess?
>
> Sure, I can imagine several reasonable ways to score such questions, but I
> have no idea how MS actually does it.
>
> > One more thing after completing exam I did not get print out, did you
> > guys?
>
> No, this has been Prometric's policy for beta exams for a while now. I
> don't like it, and it always confuses the proctor too.
>
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