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| newsgroup user 2004-03-11, 2:24 pm |
| Quick question, do any of you see the IT environment that we had in the early 2k (Mega bucks & Demand for IT) coming back eventually with the improvment of the economy or are those days long gone? We all now about the IT jobs being exported to India, but
I'm asking relative to PC Techs, Network Admins, Database Admins vs. Phone support. Let's face it, computers are everywhere. Who will support them here on the home front?
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| what you are reflecting on is pretty interresting.
sorry because i don't speak english very well
i think that being programmers at this time , will become very hard.
At this time Russian, Indian and several east europe countries programmers
are becoming competitive and low cost effective. In europe, some agencies
are just planning links between foreign programmers companies and western
europe companies.
In western, companies are asking for more and more skills whereas a few are
really useful to companies. Programmers have to watch technology market, to
update their skills. I know a friend that debugged F16 gps system. in his
whole life, he ran after technologies travelling through countries. It was
hard for him to see their familly. Today, he is unemployed.
It's different for network workers. We always need people on site. Even some
remote solutions exists as Terminal Server for windows 2000,2003 or Citrix,
we can't replace people with offshore workers.
But programmers have to think to their future. Open Source movement doesn't
help them to do a viable job for future. I realized a few month ago, that
programmers jobs was really insecure. Jobs are shorter and shorter.
Since the market is growing, everybody doesn't feel concern with. But i met
programmers from india, russia and romania. They are amazing.
I think IT people should create an union to reflect on their future with
communication plan in companies context. something like " if you pay for
licences pay for your brains".
"Pisser" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:B710C98D-CB3C-4B30-8759-5090AB0A52C6@microsoft.com...
> Quick question, do any of you see the IT environment that we had in the
early 2k (Mega bucks & Demand for IT) coming back eventually with the
improvment of the economy or are those days long gone? We all now about the
IT jobs being exported to India, but I'm asking relative to PC Techs,
Network Admins, Database Admins vs. Phone support. Let's face it, computers
are everywhere. Who will support them here on the home front?
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| newsgroup user 2004-03-11, 6:23 pm |
| Thanks for your input. It's interesting to say that at one time I considered going down that route (Programmer) but not the case anymore. For now, I'm sticking with Network Admin.
Cheers!
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| Meister Man 2004-03-15, 8:24 pm |
| I doubt that the "it boom" will come back any time soon, but when it is
realized that home grown is better than outsourcing, the tide will turn in
our favor.
P.S. ---The only people worse to deal with than stuffies in meetings are the
general public--( I am getting out of retail to deal with much less problems
in IT for the same pay)
Meister
"Pisser" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B710C98D-CB3C-4B30-8759-5090AB0A52C6@microsoft.com...
> Quick question, do any of you see the IT environment that we had in the
early 2k (Mega bucks & Demand for IT) coming back eventually with the
improvment of the economy or are those days long gone? We all now about the
IT jobs being exported to India, but I'm asking relative to PC Techs,
Network Admins, Database Admins vs. Phone support. Let's face it, computers
are everywhere. Who will support them here on the home front?
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| I am also an experienced programmer that has been lucky (I
guess) to not be unemployed during the downturn. I wan;t
to try and find another career that will still enable me
to use at least some of the programming and DBA skills I
have gained through the years... Any ideas?
I'd also second the union idea someone else mentioned...
Programmers, in general, are treated pretty poorly by
management and I only see things getting worse as the
years go on.
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| From France,
I'm totally agree with y.
that's why i think that programmers have to create strong unions to increase
in value their skills.
for DBA skills, i advise you to learn about Oracle.
"???" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de
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01280a@phx.gbl...
> I am also an experienced programmer that has been lucky (I
> guess) to not be unemployed during the downturn. I wan;t
> to try and find another career that will still enable me
> to use at least some of the programming and DBA skills I
> have gained through the years... Any ideas?
>
> I'd also second the union idea someone else mentioned...
> Programmers, in general, are treated pretty poorly by
> management and I only see things getting worse as the
> years go on.
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