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| DaWoE 2002-07-31, 10:25 am |
| Hi all,
Just got myself a new book today. Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with Visual
Basic.NET from Wrox
In the piece About the authors i read the Juan T. Libre is Active Server
Pages Microsoft MVP.
What does this mean and what do I have to do to become one.
Can somebody help me.
--
DaWoE
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Girls are like internet domain names... the ones I like are already taken.
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| Curt_C 2002-07-31, 10:25 am |
| www.microsoft.com/mvp
Look there for starters but basically you need to participate in peer
support (newsgroups). If you show yourself to deserve it they will award it
to you. Aaron Bertrand might be able to give you more details but the best
bet is to pound away here (or in the DotNet enwsgroups) if that is what you
are after.
--
----------------------------------------------------------
Curt Christianson (Software_AT_Darkfalz.Com)
Owner/Lead Designer, DF-Software
http://www.Darkfalz.com
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...Offering free scripts & code snippits for everyone...
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"DaWoE" <dawoe@GETRIDOFTHECAPSskynet.be> wrote in message
news:3d480004$0$195$ba620e4c@n
ews.skynet.be...
> Hi all,
>
> Just got myself a new book today. Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with Visual
> Basic.NET from Wrox
>
> In the piece About the authors i read the Juan T. Libre is Active Server
> Pages Microsoft MVP.
>
> What does this mean and what do I have to do to become one.
>
> Can somebody help me.
>
> --
> DaWoE
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Girls are like internet domain names... the ones I like are already
taken.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
| |
| =mėanoldman= 2002-07-31, 12:25 pm |
| I still haven't gotten mine :-(
Where is it Ben?
--
http://www.mcngp.tk
"Curt_C" <Software_At_Darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:#fHFKZKOCHA.2676@tkmsftngp13...
> www.microsoft.com/mvp
> Look there for starters but basically you need to participate in peer
> support (newsgroups). If you show yourself to deserve it they will award
it
> to you. Aaron Bertrand might be able to give you more details but the best
> bet is to pound away here (or in the DotNet enwsgroups) if that is what
you
> are after.
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Curt Christianson (Software_AT_Darkfalz.Com)
> Owner/Lead Designer, DF-Software
> http://www.Darkfalz.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> ..Offering free scripts & code snippits for everyone...
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "DaWoE" <dawoe@GETRIDOFTHECAPSskynet.be> wrote in message
> news:3d480004$0$195$ba620e4c@n
ews.skynet.be...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just got myself a new book today. Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with Visual
> > Basic.NET from Wrox
> >
> > In the piece About the authors i read the Juan T. Libre is Active Server
> > Pages Microsoft MVP.
> >
> > What does this mean and what do I have to do to become one.
> >
> > Can somebody help me.
> >
> > --
> > DaWoE
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Girls are like internet domain names... the ones I like are already
> taken.
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Jeff Cochran 2002-08-01, 8:25 am |
| >I still haven't gotten mine :-(
The MVP program looks for helpful posters who are often right and post
more answers than questions. Might be the first part you're found
lacking... 
Jeff
| |
| =mėanoldman= 2002-08-01, 8:25 am |
| Hey... I resent that...Just look at the posts I have made in the last two
days even.. I've changed my ways and am no longer just here to vent. I
think I fully deserve to be =mėanoldman= [MVP] :-)
--
http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
<jcochran at naplesgov dot com (Jeff Cochran)> wrote in message
news:3d4a3763.161501176@news.supernews.com...
> >I still haven't gotten mine :-(
>
> The MVP program looks for helpful posters who are often right and post
> more answers than questions. Might be the first part you're found
> lacking...
>
> Jeff
| |
| Curt_C 2002-08-01, 8:25 am |
| Hey now...
Me first :}
--
----------------------------------------------------------
Curt Christianson (Software_AT_Darkfalz.Com)
Owner/Lead Designer, DF-Software
http://www.Darkfalz.com
---------------------------------------------------------
...Offering free scripts & code snippits for everyone...
---------------------------------------------------------
"=mėanoldman=" <meanoldman@(no spam)mcngp.tk> wrote in message
news:O7xJQFWOCHA.1408@tkmsftngp12...
> Hey... I resent that...Just look at the posts I have made in the last two
> days even.. I've changed my ways and am no longer just here to vent. I
> think I fully deserve to be =mėanoldman= [MVP] :-)
>
> --
> http://www.mcngp.tk
> The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
>
>
>
> <jcochran at naplesgov dot com (Jeff Cochran)> wrote in message
> news:3d4a3763.161501176@news.supernews.com...
> > >I still haven't gotten mine :-(
> >
> > The MVP program looks for helpful posters who are often right and post
> > more answers than questions. Might be the first part you're found
> > lacking...
> >
> > Jeff
>
>
| |
|
| > Hey... I resent that...Just look at the posts I have made in the last two
> days even.. I've changed my ways and am no longer just here to vent. I
> think I fully deserve to be =mėanoldman= [MVP] :-)
>
Can I be Jtyc [LVP] ?
| |
| Richard Warwick 2002-08-01, 6:25 pm |
| Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to my
forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
"DaWoE" <dawoe@GETRIDOFTHECAPSskynet.be> wrote in message
news:3d480004$0$195$ba620e4c@n
ews.skynet.be...
> Hi all,
>
> Just got myself a new book today. Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with Visual
> Basic.NET from Wrox
>
> In the piece About the authors i read the Juan T. Libre is Active Server
> Pages Microsoft MVP.
>
> What does this mean and what do I have to do to become one.
>
> Can somebody help me.
>
> --
> DaWoE
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Girls are like internet domain names... the ones I like are already
taken.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
| |
| Chip C 2002-08-01, 9:25 pm |
| On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:59:30 +0100, Richard Warwick allegedly
wrote...
> Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to my
> forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
>
Having been an MVP for 3 years or so...I got a nice cheap engraved
watch, while MS got three years of me providing free tech support for
IE and Windows. Of course, being in a very small town during that
time, where else but in Newsgroups would I have gotten exposed to
such a large and varied range of problems and solutions, not to
mention met lots of great folks? Money? I think I can safely say
that the experience gained helped me make a bit of that.
--
Chip Ciammaichella
Manager of Technology
Q4-2, Inc.
Personal Sites:
http://www.chipcom.net/
http://www.christmas-stories.com/
| |
| Richard Warwick 2002-08-02, 3:25 am |
| There are no doubt easier ways to make money.
"Chip C" <chip@chipcom.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.17b3bd8018f45b1098996d@news-server.neo.rr.com...
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:59:30 +0100, Richard Warwick allegedly
> wrote...
>
> > Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to
my
> > forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
> >
>
> Having been an MVP for 3 years or so...I got a nice cheap engraved
> watch, while MS got three years of me providing free tech support for
> IE and Windows. Of course, being in a very small town during that
> time, where else but in Newsgroups would I have gotten exposed to
> such a large and varied range of problems and solutions, not to
> mention met lots of great folks? Money? I think I can safely say
> that the experience gained helped me make a bit of that.
>
> --
> Chip Ciammaichella
> Manager of Technology
> Q4-2, Inc.
>
> Personal Sites:
> http://www.chipcom.net/
> http://www.christmas-stories.com/
| |
| Jeff Cochran 2002-08-02, 8:25 am |
| Then you won't be nominated as a MVP. You probably won't become a
teacher, preacher or poet either. Hopefully, you won't be charged
with a felony either. But there's still a lot of things you can do,
so don't get discouraged.
Jeff
>Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to my
>forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
>
>"DaWoE" <dawoe@GETRIDOFTHECAPSskynet.be> wrote in message
> news:3d480004$0$195$ba620e4c@n
ews.skynet.be...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just got myself a new book today. Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with Visual
>> Basic.NET from Wrox
>>
>> In the piece About the authors i read the Juan T. Libre is Active Server
>> Pages Microsoft MVP.
>>
>> What does this mean and what do I have to do to become one.
>>
>> Can somebody help me.
>>
>> --
>> DaWoE
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Girls are like internet domain names... the ones I like are already
>taken.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>
| |
| Michael D. Kersey 2002-08-02, 4:25 pm |
| Richard Warwick wrote:
>
> Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to my
> forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
Ouch!
Some people will work for money, some will work for stock options and
some will work for an MVP. All 3 kinds of people are useful to the
company that pays them.
The ones that work only for money always know exactly what they're worth
at the moment. In today's economic climate, the ones that work for stock
options may be envying the ones that work for an MVP!-))
The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good guys.
We can't be so sure about the others.
Good Luck,
Michael D. Kersey
| |
| Richard Warwick 2002-08-02, 5:25 pm |
| I don't want to be nominated as a MVP. I've written 1000's and 1000's of
pages of poetry. Two years ago I e-mailed Randy Birch who I think is an MVP
or at least is linked into www.mvps.org about of couple of bugs in his code
and how top fix them. He never acknowledged this. I'm not so worried about
that but one of the code samples kept topping the week's most popular
download listing so 1000's of people were downloading fatally flawed code
and he never did a thing about it. Both fixes were easy and I explained
exactly what was wrong & how to fix. So please don't preach to me!
Furthermore, I don't have a criminal record, have never had a criminal
record, and at this rate never will.
<jcochran at naplesgov dot com (Jeff Cochran)> wrote in message
news:3d4f8e68.66349064@news.supernews.com...
> Then you won't be nominated as a MVP. You probably won't become a
> teacher, preacher or poet either. Hopefully, you won't be charged
> with a felony either. But there's still a lot of things you can do,
> so don't get discouraged.
>
> Jeff
>
> >Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to
my
> >forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
> >
> >"DaWoE" <dawoe@GETRIDOFTHECAPSskynet.be> wrote in message
> > news:3d480004$0$195$ba620e4c@n
ews.skynet.be...
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Just got myself a new book today. Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with Visual
> >> Basic.NET from Wrox
> >>
> >> In the piece About the authors i read the Juan T. Libre is Active
Server
> >> Pages Microsoft MVP.
> >>
> >> What does this mean and what do I have to do to become one.
> >>
> >> Can somebody help me.
> >>
> >> --
> >> DaWoE
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Girls are like internet domain names... the ones I like are already
> >taken.
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >
>
| |
| Richard Warwick 2002-08-02, 6:25 pm |
| The irony is that Microsoft are motivated primarily by money. Sure they do
this or that charitable action so not to lose public face. I'd like to see
MVP awards where the winners get handed a wad of cash instead of - and I
quote - 'a cheap wrist watch'.
"Michael D. Kersey" <mdkersey@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
news:3D4AF7AF.9ED4DDCD@hal-pc.org...
> Richard Warwick wrote:
> >
> > Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to
my
> > forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
>
> Ouch!
>
> Some people will work for money, some will work for stock options and
> some will work for an MVP. All 3 kinds of people are useful to the
> company that pays them.
>
> The ones that work only for money always know exactly what they're worth
> at the moment. In today's economic climate, the ones that work for stock
> options may be envying the ones that work for an MVP!-))
>
> The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good guys.
> We can't be so sure about the others.
>
> Good Luck,
> Michael D. Kersey
| |
| Craig Berntson 2002-08-02, 6:25 pm |
| Obviously someone doesn't know what they got. The watch was far from
"cheap".
--
Craig Berntson
MCSD, VisualFoxPro MVP
www.craigberntson.com
Salt Lake City Fox User Group
www.slcfox.org
www.foxcentral.net
"Richard Warwick" <richard.warwick@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:#WWwQunOCHA.2512@tkmsftngp10...
> The irony is that Microsoft are motivated primarily by money. Sure they do
> this or that charitable action so not to lose public face. I'd like to see
> MVP awards where the winners get handed a wad of cash instead of - and I
> quote - 'a cheap wrist watch'.
>
> "Michael D. Kersey" <mdkersey@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> news:3D4AF7AF.9ED4DDCD@hal-pc.org...
> > Richard Warwick wrote:
> > >
> > > Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it
to
> my
> > > forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
> >
> > Ouch!
> >
> > Some people will work for money, some will work for stock options and
> > some will work for an MVP. All 3 kinds of people are useful to the
> > company that pays them.
> >
> > The ones that work only for money always know exactly what they're worth
> > at the moment. In today's economic climate, the ones that work for stock
> > options may be envying the ones that work for an MVP!-))
> >
> > The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good guys.
> > We can't be so sure about the others.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> > Michael D. Kersey
>
>
| |
| Richard Warwick 2002-08-02, 6:25 pm |
| Maybe it was said in jest. Ask the original sender. What would a pawn shop
think of it?
"Craig Berntson" <craig@craigberntson.com> wrote in message
news:#ou738nOCHA.1720@tkmsftngp09...
> Obviously someone doesn't know what they got. The watch was far from
> "cheap".
>
> --
> Craig Berntson
> MCSD, VisualFoxPro MVP
> www.craigberntson.com
> Salt Lake City Fox User Group
> www.slcfox.org
> www.foxcentral.net
>
>
> "Richard Warwick" <richard.warwick@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:#WWwQunOCHA.2512@tkmsftngp10...
> > The irony is that Microsoft are motivated primarily by money. Sure they
do
> > this or that charitable action so not to lose public face. I'd like to
see
> > MVP awards where the winners get handed a wad of cash instead of - and I
> > quote - 'a cheap wrist watch'.
> >
> > "Michael D. Kersey" <mdkersey@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > news:3D4AF7AF.9ED4DDCD@hal-pc.org...
> > > Richard Warwick wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail
it
> to
> > my
> > > > forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
> > >
> > > Ouch!
> > >
> > > Some people will work for money, some will work for stock options and
> > > some will work for an MVP. All 3 kinds of people are useful to the
> > > company that pays them.
> > >
> > > The ones that work only for money always know exactly what they're
worth
> > > at the moment. In today's economic climate, the ones that work for
stock
> > > options may be envying the ones that work for an MVP!-))
> > >
> > > The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good
guys. [colo
r=darkred]
> > > We can't be so sure about the others.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Michael D. Kersey
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Richard Warwick 2002-08-02, 6:25 pm |
| I'll also point out that this is on the home page for the site "Due to
volume I regret can't guarantee a personal reply to all the email I receive.
The site contents give a pretty good indication of where my interests lie. I
do however read all email, and respond where I can assist. I invite you to
request specific code examples, point out errors, or just pass comments on
the code or the site." Well that's exactly what I did. It would appear that
he is an MVP.
If an MVP is your cup of tea then great don't let me stop you.
"Richard Warwick" <richard.warwick@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:#c5j3qnOCHA.436@tkmsftngp11...
> I don't want to be nominated as a MVP. I've written 1000's and 1000's of
> pages of poetry. Two years ago I e-mailed Randy Birch who I think is an
MVP
> or at least is linked into www.mvps.org about of couple of bugs in his
code
> and how top fix them. He never acknowledged this. I'm not so worried about
> that but one of the code samples kept topping the week's most popular
> download listing so 1000's of people were downloading fatally flawed code
> and he never did a thing about it. Both fixes were easy and I explained
> exactly what was wrong & how to fix. So please don't preach to me!
> Furthermore, I don't have a criminal record, have never had a criminal
> record, and at this rate never will.
>
> <jcochran at naplesgov dot com (Jeff Cochran)> wrote in message
> news:3d4f8e68.66349064@news.supernews.com...
> > Then you won't be nominated as a MVP. You probably won't become a
> > teacher, preacher or poet either. Hopefully, you won't be charged
> > with a felony either. But there's still a lot of things you can do,
> > so don't get discouraged.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > >Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it
to
> my
> > >forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
> > >
> > >"DaWoE" <dawoe@GETRIDOFTHECAPSskynet.be> wrote in message
> > > news:3d480004$0$195$ba620e4c@n
ews.skynet.be...
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Just got myself a new book today. Beginning ASP.NET 1.0 with Visual
> > >> Basic.NET from Wrox
> > >>
> > >> In the piece About the authors i read the Juan T. Libre is Active
> Server
> > >> Pages Microsoft MVP.
> > >>
> > >> What does this mean and what do I have to do to become one.
> > >>
> > >> Can somebody help me.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> DaWoE
> >
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Girls are like internet domain names... the ones I like are already
> > >taken.
> >
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
| |
| Richard Warwick 2002-08-02, 7:25 pm |
| Actually, let me be honest with you on this occasion. I am sick & tired of
having no money & I am out of a job. I doubt very much that the next job I
get will satisfy me financially either.
> The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good guys.
> We can't be so sure about the others.
This just doesn't gel.
"Michael D. Kersey" <mdkersey@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
news:3D4AF7AF.9ED4DDCD@hal-pc.org...
> Richard Warwick wrote:
> >
> > Who cares about some stupid award? If I got one maybe I would nail it to
my
> > forehead. I'm much more interested in money.
>
> Ouch!
>
> Some people will work for money, some will work for stock options and
> some will work for an MVP. All 3 kinds of people are useful to the
> company that pays them.
>
> The ones that work only for money always know exactly what they're worth
> at the moment. In today's economic climate, the ones that work for stock
> options may be envying the ones that work for an MVP!-))
>
> The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good guys.
> We can't be so sure about the others.
>
> Good Luck,
> Michael D. Kersey
| |
| Michael D. Kersey 2002-08-02, 7:25 pm |
| Richard Warwick wrote:
> Actually, let me be honest with you on this occasion. I am sick & tired of
> having no money & I am out of a job. I doubt very much that the next job I
> get will satisfy me financially either.
Sorry to hear about that.
I just wanted to point out that even financial "success" (here, the
stock options that Microsoft employees have) can sometimes be an
obligation too. Having no job means that you are at least free to seek
another job. So who knows what the future holds.
Unemployment also means you are free to pursue your interests: Perl,
Apache, Representational State architectures for web services (REST),
whatever you wish. So take advantage of the freedom while you still have
it. Remember
"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the
grave with the song still in them."
- Henry David Thoreau
Good Luck,
Michael D. Kersey
| |
| Chip C 2002-08-02, 9:25 pm |
| On Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:50:14 -0600, Craig Berntson allegedly wrote...
> Obviously someone doesn't know what they got. The watch was far from
> "cheap".
>
LOL Craig...granted it is a Victorinox, probably retails in the $100-
200 range.
--
Chip Ciammaichella
Manager of Technology
Q4-2, Inc.
Personal Sites:
http://www.chipcom.net/
http://www.christmas-stories.com/
| |
| Adam D. Barratt 2002-08-03, 9:25 am |
| In microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general Craig Berntson <craig@craigberntson.com> wrote:
> Obviously someone doesn't know what they got. The watch was far from
> "cheap".
ICBW, but I'd also suspect that most MVPs don't view the award as matter
of "winning", more as recognition of their help and dedication.
Adam
--
"There is nothing so deadly as not to hold up to people the opportunity
to do great and wonderful things, if we wish to stimulate them in an
active way."
-- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry
| |
| Craig Berntson 2002-08-03, 1:23 pm |
| I don't know, you'll have to ask a pawn shop.
--
Craig Berntson
MCSD, VisualFoxPro MVP
www.craigberntson.com
Salt Lake City Fox User Group
www.slcfox.org
www.foxcentral.net
"Richard Warwick" <richard.warwick@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:en7dEMoOCHA.2512@tkmsftngp10...
> Maybe it was said in jest. Ask the original sender. What would a pawn shop
> think of it?
>
| |
| Craig Berntson 2002-08-03, 1:23 pm |
| I agree with you. It certainly isn't a competition.
--
Craig Berntson
MCSD, VisualFoxPro MVP
www.craigberntson.com
Salt Lake City Fox User Group
www.slcfox.org
www.foxcentral.net
"Adam D. Barratt" <usenet+mpiag@adam-barratt.org.uk> wrote in message
news:3d4bed3b@aubergine.my-net-space.net...
> In microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general Craig Berntson
<craig@craigberntson.com> wrote:
> > Obviously someone doesn't know what they got. The watch was far from
> > "cheap".
>
> ICBW, but I'd also suspect that most MVPs don't view the award as matter
> of "winning", more as recognition of their help and dedication.
>
> Adam
> --
> "There is nothing so deadly as not to hold up to people the opportunity
> to do great and wonderful things, if we wish to stimulate them in an
> active way."
> -- Dr. Harold Urey, Nobel Laureate in chemistry
| |
| Cindy Winegarden 2002-08-04, 1:23 pm |
| Craig Berntson <craig@craigberntson.com> wrote in message
news:OTY4c0xOCHA.1408@tkmsftngp12...
>> ICBW, but I'd also suspect that most MVPs don't view the award as
>> matter of "winning", more as recognition of their help and
>> dedication.
> I agree with you. It certainly isn't a competition.
I participated in a roundtable discussion concerning the MVP program.
The majority of those participating said they started hanging out in
newsgroups in order to learn new things or to broaden their experience
by solving problems beyond what they would run into at their jobs. The
MVP award was a byproduct of their self-paced learning programs. It's
certainly true for me.
--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net
| |
| Jeff Cochran 2002-08-05, 8:23 am |
| >I agree with you. It certainly isn't a competition.
It's an honor. You don't compete to get Knighted, and you get darned
little more than a title and some paperwork to back it up.
I'd venture to guess that the MVP's would all be providing the same
support even if Microsoft never acknowledged their existence. An MVP
isn't "pay" for doing the job, it's a warm fuzzy. And for some of us,
that's far better than cash.
Plus you get a cool tote bag.
Jeff
(Who'll often do far more for a ball cap or t-shirt than a salary...)
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| Jeff Cochran 2002-08-05, 8:23 am |
| >Actually, let me be honest with you on this occasion. I am sick & tired of
>having no money & I am out of a job. I doubt very much that the next job I
>get will satisfy me financially either.
That's too bad. Though I've often found that people who have no money
and are out of work could solve these issues with a simple change in
priorities, I'll assume that's not your case. But just because you're
broke and miserable and wouldn't lift a finger to help someone unless
you were appropriately compensated, that doesn't mean the rest of us
share your philosophy.
>> The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good guys.
>> We can't be so sure about the others.
>
>This just doesn't gel.
Your attitude isn't wrong, it's just wrong for me. If it works for
you, then you have my best hopes that you return to a life of
prosperity as expediently as possible.
Jeff
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| Richard Warwick 2002-08-05, 7:23 pm |
| > That's too bad. Though I've often found that people who have no money
> and are out of work could solve these issues with a simple change in
> priorities, I'll assume that's not your case.
What should I be prioritising? Getting a job? I'll assume that is the case.
Thanks for the tip I have a job interview this morning.
> But just because you're
> broke and miserable and wouldn't lift a finger to help someone unless
> you were appropriately compensated, that doesn't mean the rest of us
> share your philosophy
Since when was that my philosophy? What kind of wretched philosophy is that
anyway? If I subscribed to it would I gleefully tell everyone about it?
<jcochran at naplesgov dot com (Jeff Cochran)> wrote in message
news:3d527d52.62898563@news.supernews.com...
> >Actually, let me be honest with you on this occasion. I am sick & tired
of
> >having no money & I am out of a job. I doubt very much that the next job
I
> >get will satisfy me financially either.
>
> That's too bad. Though I've often found that people who have no money
> and are out of work could solve these issues with a simple change in
> priorities, I'll assume that's not your case. But just because you're
> broke and miserable and wouldn't lift a finger to help someone unless
> you were appropriately compensated, that doesn't mean the rest of us
> share your philosophy.
>
> >> The MVPs are the very salt of the earth - they are definitely good
guys. [colo
r=darkred]
> >> We can't be so sure about the others.
> >
> >This just doesn't gel.
>
> Your attitude isn't wrong, it's just wrong for me. If it works for
> you, then you have my best hopes that you return to a life of
> prosperity as expediently as possible.
>
> Jeff[/color]
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| Richard Warwick 2002-08-05, 7:23 pm |
| Thank you Michael. I had a brief run in with Perl a few years back but
didn't pursue. Where you hit the nail on the head is when you state that I
may pursue my interests. Though pursued at considerable expense I am
better for it and I have thought much about where I want to go in the
future.Probably my exile is at least (arguably) in part self-imposed but I
will look back at this time with a deep satisfaction even though difficult
and unrounded.
"Michael D. Kersey" <mdkersey@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
news:3D4B2D66.59C62D8A@hal-pc.org...
> Richard Warwick wrote:
> > Actually, let me be honest with you on this occasion. I am sick & tired
of
> > having no money & I am out of a job. I doubt very much that the next job
I
> > get will satisfy me financially either.
>
> Sorry to hear about that.
>
> I just wanted to point out that even financial "success" (here, the
> stock options that Microsoft employees have) can sometimes be an
> obligation too. Having no job means that you are at least free to seek
> another job. So who knows what the future holds.
>
> Unemployment also means you are free to pursue your interests: Perl,
> Apache, Representational State architectures for web services (REST),
> whatever you wish. So take advantage of the freedom while you still have
> it. Remember
> "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the
> grave with the song still in them."
> - Henry David Thoreau
>
> Good Luck,
> Michael D. Kersey
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