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kraut killer

2002-11-18, 4:23 pm

Whew! Almost got myself committed to a $6,000 agreement with a CBT based
school. You would basically be doing tutorials on a computer in this school
most of the time.... I figured, why not buy the CD's online and control the
process on my own.... and save thousands in the process!!

I'm just wondering if anyone has taken on the MCSE challenge by self study
alone-- how would you do the labs? ( if you don't have the room to set up
your own home network)-- I guess virtual labs would have to do.

Since Windows 2000 is a vast and seemingly intimidating OS at times, is it
possible to "CD" your way to success?

Thanks to any and all who have provided suggested sites to visit-- I have
picked up probably 20 new favorites since yesterday! Also, I had NO idea
there were sites devoted to helping some cheat their way to success--- I
will definitely be avoiding these sites once I discover just what they are
proposing-- I believe in serious study and enthusiasm for the subject at
hand-- not underhanded certifications! With Win2K being endlessly
fascinating in all it's many facets, this should make it a bit easier to
digest!

If you are going to cheat your way to all certs. because of ego, then why
bother with them at all? Don't you think you will be found out by someone
in the future? How will you function in an IT job with only "cherts" (hybrid
of cheat certs)?


chris

2002-11-21, 12:23 pm

I would recommend Sybex Study Guides. I went to an MCSE school but I did the
courses for MCDBA on my own. I would recommend if possible that you get a
second computer and use Terminal Services for a network.
"kraut killer" <stayfrosty@somewhere.com> wrote in message
newswdC9.20137$hK4.1810084@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Whew! Almost got myself committed to a $6,000 agreement with a CBT based
> school. You would basically be doing tutorials on a computer in this

school
> most of the time.... I figured, why not buy the CD's online and control

the
> process on my own.... and save thousands in the process!!
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone has taken on the MCSE challenge by self study
> alone-- how would you do the labs? ( if you don't have the room to set up
> your own home network)-- I guess virtual labs would have to do.
>
> Since Windows 2000 is a vast and seemingly intimidating OS at times, is it
> possible to "CD" your way to success?
>
> Thanks to any and all who have provided suggested sites to visit-- I have
> picked up probably 20 new favorites since yesterday! Also, I had NO idea
> there were sites devoted to helping some cheat their way to success--- I
> will definitely be avoiding these sites once I discover just what they are
> proposing-- I believe in serious study and enthusiasm for the subject at
> hand-- not underhanded certifications! With Win2K being endlessly
> fascinating in all it's many facets, this should make it a bit easier to
> digest!
>
> If you are going to cheat your way to all certs. because of ego, then why
> bother with them at all? Don't you think you will be found out by someone
> in the future? How will you function in an IT job with only "cherts"

(hybrid
> of cheat certs)?
>
>



gtmtnbiker98

2002-11-21, 8:23 pm

I'm using Smart Certify, and they are great. I paid
1500.00 for both MCSE and A+. They really prepare you
well.


>-----Original Message-----
>I would recommend Sybex Study Guides. I went to an MCSE

school but I did the
>courses for MCDBA on my own. I would recommend if

possible that you get a
>second computer and use Terminal Services for a network.
>"kraut killer" <stayfrosty@somewhere.com> wrote in

message
>newswdC9.20137$hK4.1810084@bgtnsc05-

news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Whew! Almost got myself committed to a $6,000

agreement with a CBT based

>> school. You would basically be doing tutorials on a

computer in this
>school
>> most of the time.... I figured, why not buy the CD's

online and control
>the
>> process on my own.... and save thousands in the

process!!
>>
>> I'm just wondering if anyone has taken on the MCSE

challenge by self study

>> alone-- how would you do the labs? ( if you don't have

the room to set up
>> your own home network)-- I guess virtual labs would

have to do.
>>
>> Since Windows 2000 is a vast and seemingly

intimidating OS at times, is it
>> possible to "CD" your way to success?
>>
>> Thanks to any and all who have provided suggested

sites to visit-- I have
>> picked up probably 20 new favorites since yesterday!

Also, I had NO idea
>> there were sites devoted to helping some cheat their

way to success--- I
>> will definitely be avoiding these sites once I

discover just what they are
>> proposing-- I believe in serious study and enthusiasm

for the subject at
>> hand-- not underhanded certifications! With Win2K

being endlessly
>> fascinating in all it's many facets, this should make

it a bit easier to
>> digest!
>>
>> If you are going to cheat your way to all certs.

because of ego, then why
>> bother with them at all? Don't you think you will be

found out by someone
>> in the future? How will you function in an IT job with

only "cherts"
>(hybrid
>> of cheat certs)?
>>
>>

>
>
>.
>

Win2K zealot

2002-11-22, 9:23 am

Interesting... I looked at their program, but couldn't determine how they
deliver it to you--- is theirs an online course or CD course?


"gtmtnbiker98" <gtmtnbiker98@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f92101c291ca$48af8940$89f
82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA01...
> I'm using Smart Certify, and they are great. I paid
> 1500.00 for both MCSE and A+. They really prepare you
> well.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I would recommend Sybex Study Guides. I went to an MCSE

> school but I did the
> >courses for MCDBA on my own. I would recommend if

> possible that you get a
> >second computer and use Terminal Services for a network.
> >"kraut killer" <stayfrosty@somewhere.com> wrote in

> message
> >newswdC9.20137$hK4.1810084@bgtnsc05-

> news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> Whew! Almost got myself committed to a $6,000

> agreement with a CBT based
> >> school. You would basically be doing tutorials on a

> computer in this
> >school
> >> most of the time.... I figured, why not buy the CD's

> online and control
> >the
> >> process on my own.... and save thousands in the

> process!!
> >>
> >> I'm just wondering if anyone has taken on the MCSE

> challenge by self study
> >> alone-- how would you do the labs? ( if you don't have

> the room to set up

> >> your own home network)-- I guess virtual labs would

> have to do.
> >>
> >> Since Windows 2000 is a vast and seemingly

> intimidating OS at times, is it

> >> possible to "CD" your way to success?
> >>
> >> Thanks to any and all who have provided suggested

> sites to visit-- I have
> >> picked up probably 20 new favorites since yesterday!

> Also, I had NO idea
> >> there were sites devoted to helping some cheat their

> way to success--- I
> >> will definitely be avoiding these sites once I

> discover just what they are
> >> proposing-- I believe in serious study and enthusiasm

> for the subject at

> >> hand-- not underhanded certifications! With Win2K

> being endlessly
> >> fascinating in all it's many facets, this should make

> it a bit easier to

> >> digest!
> >>
> >> If you are going to cheat your way to all certs.

> because of ego, then why
> >> bother with them at all? Don't you think you will be

> found out by someone
> >> in the future? How will you function in an IT job with

> only "cherts"
> >(hybrid
> >> of cheat certs)?
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >.
> >



Sylvain Doré

2002-11-27, 3:23 pm

Hi,
I'm a self-study MCSE 4 + 2K. I used the CDs to learns most of the
theory. But any good MCSE will tell you that the secret is to play with the
OS and log lots of hours on it. If you don't have more than one machine at
home, try a PC emulator (like VMWare or VirtualPC). That's how I managed to
setup a complete domain with multiple domain controllers and servers, all
from my single PC. I even got my job to buy copies of it to use as a virtual
lab to test new ideas.
Anyway, how ever you do it, the key is to play around with every aspect
of the feature you're studying. You can't get that kind of experience just
by reading the books.

Sylvain


"kraut killer" <stayfrosty@somewhere.com> wrote in message
newswdC9.20137$hK4.1810084@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Whew! Almost got myself committed to a $6,000 agreement with a CBT based
> school. You would basically be doing tutorials on a computer in this

school
> most of the time.... I figured, why not buy the CD's online and control

the
> process on my own.... and save thousands in the process!!
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone has taken on the MCSE challenge by self study
> alone-- how would you do the labs? ( if you don't have the room to set up
> your own home network)-- I guess virtual labs would have to do.
>
> Since Windows 2000 is a vast and seemingly intimidating OS at times, is it
> possible to "CD" your way to success?
>
> Thanks to any and all who have provided suggested sites to visit-- I have
> picked up probably 20 new favorites since yesterday! Also, I had NO idea
> there were sites devoted to helping some cheat their way to success--- I
> will definitely be avoiding these sites once I discover just what they are
> proposing-- I believe in serious study and enthusiasm for the subject at
> hand-- not underhanded certifications! With Win2K being endlessly
> fascinating in all it's many facets, this should make it a bit easier to
> digest!
>
> If you are going to cheat your way to all certs. because of ego, then why
> bother with them at all? Don't you think you will be found out by someone
> in the future? How will you function in an IT job with only "cherts"

(hybrid
> of cheat certs)?
>
>



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