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| Kwyjibo 2004-04-20, 10:23 am |
| Hi Guys,
Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?
I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.
Thanks.
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-04-20, 10:23 am |
| > Hi Guys,
>
> Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?
> I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.
>
> Thanks.
Manager of your local Wendy's.
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| Kwyjibo 2004-04-20, 11:23 am |
| Funny!!
I mean in IT Profession.
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Manager of your local Wendy's.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
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| Consultant 2004-04-20, 11:24 am |
| i would sit at the help desk and surf porn all day and not answer one call
"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys,
>
> Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?
> I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
| |
| Hired Goon 2004-04-20, 11:25 am |
| "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Guys,
>
> Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?
> I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
Helpdesk or jr. system admin.
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| > i would sit at the help desk and surf porn all day and not answer one call
You must be in a union.
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-04-20, 11:25 am |
| "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ubPT2EuJEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> i would sit at the help desk and surf porn all day and not answer one call
"Would" implies a situation that is currently non-existant. Please change
"would" to "am", and re-conjugate any verbs that may need it. Thank you.
--
KB - MCNGP "Grammer thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| Consultant 2004-04-20, 12:23 pm |
| up yours
lol
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:ufuExVuJEHA.268@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ubPT2EuJEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
call[color=blue]
>
> "Would" implies a situation that is currently non-existant. Please change
> "would" to "am", and re-conjugate any verbs that may need it. Thank you.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "Grammer thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
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| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 12:23 pm |
| i would just sit and my desk and keep posting on
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and, of course, not answer one call.
:-)
"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ubPT2EuJEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:
> i would sit at the help desk and surf porn all day and not answer one
> call
>
>
> "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-04-20, 12:23 pm |
| "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OwfUnfuJEHA.556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> up yours
eh, fair enough, I guess.
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in
news:Xns94D170479B61Browdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16:
>
> i would just sit and my desk and keep posting on
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and, of course, not answer one call.
>
>:-)
>
so then, we all know how much you're making now. Exactly $35,000
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-04-20, 12:23 pm |
| "Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in message
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s2123@207.46.248.16...
> i would just sit and my desk and keep posting on
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and, of course, not answer one call.
>
> :-)
Please see my post earlier in this thread, at 10:40 AM
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KB - MCNGP "Wait, that's Neil! thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 12:24 pm |
| Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
news:Xns94D17152A5E43neilmcseh
otmailcom@207.46.248.16:
> Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in
> news:Xns94D170479B61Browdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16:
>
>
> so then, we all know how much you're making now. Exactly $35,000
>
that's canadian too. so it's about 1/2 of what buddy's makin'.
every cert i get keeps reducing my salary by 10%. go figure...?
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| Ugh! I can't ignore this post any more...
Kwyjibo... if I were you, I would accept that pay... do your job the way you
were hired... you can ask your employer for a raise if you feel you deserve
it but don't be surprised if he says no. If you make too much noise and get
fired or you quit, you will be out of a job for a while because the market
sucks... then you will hunt for a job and may end up getting only
$25,000/yr... if you have a job that is paying you that much, you can look
around for higher pay but I would keep my mouth shut while looking... do
your job... get a good reference... gain experience... EARN a pay raise...
the economy is filled with people who are earning a lot less than you and
deserve more and are just waiting for someone like you to step out of that
job so they can earn more money... it is respectable pay... perhaps not as
much as you want but the economy does not allow for greed in the IT field
right now. Employers know that if they have a disgruntled employee, there
are 1000's out there willing to work for your pay and less... so I would be
careful what you wish for... using words like underpaid is not safe... some
may look at that $35000 and wonder what the hell you are thinking... convert
it to CDN funds so I can relate directly... and it works out to about
$47,324/yr... that is more than I make annually and I have a lot of
experience/training/certifications. The market just does not have the room
for greed... you CAN be replace with someone who is willing to take whatever
they can get to supply food for their family.
--
Sue MCNGP #69
Proud member since April 8, 2002
"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Guys,
>
> Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?
> I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
| |
|
| Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in
news:Xns94D1726ED96E2rowdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16:
> that's canadian too. so it's about 1/2 of what buddy's makin'.
>
> every cert i get keeps reducing my salary by 10%. go figure...?
so it's just 10 more certs to pogey
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
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| Consultant 2004-04-20, 12:24 pm |
| i call it bandwidth regression testing. pffft
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OwfUnfuJEHA.556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> eh, fair enough, I guess.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
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| Consultant 2004-04-20, 12:24 pm |
| yes, every 3 months, i make exactly 35k US
"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94D1726ED96E2rowdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16...
> Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in
> news:Xns94D17152A5E43neilmcseh
otmailcom@207.46.248.16:
>
>
> that's canadian too. so it's about 1/2 of what buddy's makin'.
>
> every cert i get keeps reducing my salary by 10%. go figure...?
| |
| Consultant 2004-04-20, 12:24 pm |
| i dont call it greed, i call it "you get what you pay for"
"Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in message
news:Lebhc.24065$Np3.889271@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Ugh! I can't ignore this post any more...
>
> Kwyjibo... if I were you, I would accept that pay... do your job the way
you
> were hired... you can ask your employer for a raise if you feel you
deserve
> it but don't be surprised if he says no. If you make too much noise and
get
> fired or you quit, you will be out of a job for a while because the market
> sucks... then you will hunt for a job and may end up getting only
> $25,000/yr... if you have a job that is paying you that much, you can look
> around for higher pay but I would keep my mouth shut while looking... do
> your job... get a good reference... gain experience... EARN a pay raise...
> the economy is filled with people who are earning a lot less than you and
> deserve more and are just waiting for someone like you to step out of that
> job so they can earn more money... it is respectable pay... perhaps not as
> much as you want but the economy does not allow for greed in the IT field
> right now. Employers know that if they have a disgruntled employee, there
> are 1000's out there willing to work for your pay and less... so I would
be
> careful what you wish for... using words like underpaid is not safe...
some
> may look at that $35000 and wonder what the hell you are thinking...
convert
> it to CDN funds so I can relate directly... and it works out to about
> $47,324/yr... that is more than I make annually and I have a lot of
> experience/training/certifications. The market just does not have the
room
> for greed... you CAN be replace with someone who is willing to take
whatever
> they can get to supply food for their family.
>
> --
> Sue MCNGP #69
> Proud member since April 8, 2002
> "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 12:24 pm |
| "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in
news:Lebhc.24065$Np3.889271@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:
> Ugh! I can't ignore this post any more...
>
> Kwyjibo... if I were you, I would accept that pay... do your job the
> way you were hired... you can ask your employer for a raise if you
> feel you deserve it but don't be surprised if he says no. If you make
> too much noise and get fired or you quit, you will be out of a job for
> a while because the market sucks... then you will hunt for a job and
> may end up getting only $25,000/yr... if you have a job that is paying
> you that much, you can look around for higher pay but I would keep my
> mouth shut while looking... do your job... get a good reference...
> gain experience... EARN a pay raise... the economy is filled with
> people who are earning a lot less than you and deserve more and are
> just waiting for someone like you to step out of that job so they can
> earn more money... it is respectable pay... perhaps not as much as you
> want but the economy does not allow for greed in the IT field right
> now. Employers know that if they have a disgruntled employee, there
> are 1000's out there willing to work for your pay and less... so I
> would be careful what you wish for... using words like underpaid is
> not safe... some may look at that $35000 and wonder what the hell you
> are thinking... convert it to CDN funds so I can relate directly...
> and it works out to about $47,324/yr... that is more than I make
> annually and I have a lot of experience/training/certifications. The
> market just does not have the room for greed... you CAN be replace
> with someone who is willing to take whatever they can get to supply
> food for their family.
>
i said it once and i will say it again.
we are in IT because we love what we do and we like sitting behind a
computer all day long. we are not in IT because of the money. you wanna be
rich, go to school and become a lawyer or a doctor - or just open a
bootcamp.:-(
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 12:24 pm |
| $25k/annum for a paper MCSE that can format floppies all day. not a bad
gig if you can get it.
"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:uKQYsvuJEHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> i dont call it greed, i call it "you get what you pay for"
>
> "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in message
> news:Lebhc.24065$Np3.889271@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> you
> deserve
> get
> be
> some
> convert
> room
> whatever
>
>
| |
|
| "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in news:#yiupuuJEHA.1096
@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
> yes, every 3 months, i make exactly 35k US
.....i hate you...
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
|
| "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in
news:Lebhc.24065$Np3.889271@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:
> Ugh! I can't ignore this post any more...
>
> Kwyjibo... if I were you, I would accept that pay... do your job the
> way you were hired... you can ask your employer for a raise if you
> feel you deserve it but don't be surprised if he says no. If you make
> too much noise and get fired or you quit, you will be out of a job for
> a while because the market sucks... then you will hunt for a job and
> may end up getting only $25,000/yr... if you have a job that is paying
> you that much, you can look around for higher pay but I would keep my
> mouth shut while looking... do your job... get a good reference...
> gain experience... EARN a pay raise... the economy is filled with
> people who are earning a lot less than you and deserve more and are
> just waiting for someone like you to step out of that job so they can
> earn more money... it is respectable pay... perhaps not as much as you
> want but the economy does not allow for greed in the IT field right
> now. Employers know that if they have a disgruntled employee, there
> are 1000's out there willing to work for your pay and less... so I
> would be careful what you wish for... using words like underpaid is
> not safe... some may look at that $35000 and wonder what the hell you
> are thinking... convert it to CDN funds so I can relate directly...
> and it works out to about $47,324/yr... that is more than I make
> annually and I have a lot of experience/training/certifications. The
> market just does not have the room for greed... you CAN be replace
> with someone who is willing to take whatever they can get to supply
> food for their family.
>
I believe that location is a factor as well. If you live in NY or TO or
LA you will make more. And pay way more to live there. If you are making
enough to live comforatbly (you eat, you don't get rained on at night and
you aren't barefoot), quitcherbichin' or some schmo will be happy to oust
ya!
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
| Kwyjibo 2004-04-20, 12:24 pm |
| Thanks for your reply!!!
Actually, I'm not a greedy person who demands too much.
I have been working here from past 5 months they hired me as a Network Admin
but the work I'm doing is different. They made me sign a stupid contract for
2 years and after I complained abt the pay they did talk abt a raise, but no
sight of it yet.
I'm being patient, they are paying for my certification and I'm trying to
get experience.
but Thanks again for your reply!!
"Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in message
news:Lebhc.24065$Np3.889271@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Ugh! I can't ignore this post any more...
>
> Kwyjibo... if I were you, I would accept that pay... do your job the way
you
> were hired... you can ask your employer for a raise if you feel you
deserve
> it but don't be surprised if he says no. If you make too much noise and
get
> fired or you quit, you will be out of a job for a while because the market
> sucks... then you will hunt for a job and may end up getting only
> $25,000/yr... if you have a job that is paying you that much, you can look
> around for higher pay but I would keep my mouth shut while looking... do
> your job... get a good reference... gain experience... EARN a pay raise...
> the economy is filled with people who are earning a lot less than you and
> deserve more and are just waiting for someone like you to step out of that
> job so they can earn more money... it is respectable pay... perhaps not as
> much as you want but the economy does not allow for greed in the IT field
> right now. Employers know that if they have a disgruntled employee, there
> are 1000's out there willing to work for your pay and less... so I would
be
> careful what you wish for... using words like underpaid is not safe...
some
> may look at that $35000 and wonder what the hell you are thinking...
convert
> it to CDN funds so I can relate directly... and it works out to about
> $47,324/yr... that is more than I make annually and I have a lot of
> experience/training/certifications. The market just does not have the
room
> for greed... you CAN be replace with someone who is willing to take
whatever
> they can get to supply food for their family.
>
> --
> Sue MCNGP #69
> Proud member since April 8, 2002
> "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-04-20, 1:23 pm |
| "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:OlAZ$3uJEHA.1944@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for your reply!!!
> Actually, I'm not a greedy person who demands too much.
> I have been working here from past 5 months they hired me as a Network
Admin
> but the work I'm doing is different. They made me sign a stupid contract
for
> 2 years and after I complained abt the pay they did talk abt a raise, but
no
> sight of it yet.
> I'm being patient, they are paying for my certification and I'm trying to
> get experience.
> but Thanks again for your reply!!
I find it quite amusing. The whole "contract renegotiation" thing. Happens a
bit in pro sports, and I laugh every time. If the pay was unacceptable to
you, why on earth did you sign the contract? Be thankful that they didn't
laugh in yuor face when you told them the pay wasn't enough. At least
they're hearing you out and not mocking you. And, if you signed a contract
as "Network Admin", you should be doing network administration. Not
"different" work. You contract is for network administration. Period. Not
mopping the floor or answering phones. Tell them to give you network
administration work.
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 1:23 pm |
| "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in news:OlAZ$3uJEHA.1944
@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
> Actually, I'm not a greedy person who demands too much.
> they are paying for my certification
alright!! there is gonna be a cool job opening coming up soon.
yes dude, go for the big bucks, please...
| |
|
| Thanks Sue. I was getting ready to post myself. I make what he does as
well, but our Network Admin doesn't make much more (i'm just a lowly
analyst).
Be happy with 35K... if you aren't, tell me where you work, I'll apply 
Brat wrote:
> Ugh! I can't ignore this post any more...
>
> Kwyjibo... if I were you, I would accept that pay... do your job the way you
> were hired... you can ask your employer for a raise if you feel you deserve
> it but don't be surprised if he says no. If you make too much noise and get
> fired or you quit, you will be out of a job for a while because the market
> sucks... then you will hunt for a job and may end up getting only
> $25,000/yr... if you have a job that is paying you that much, you can look
> around for higher pay but I would keep my mouth shut while looking... do
> your job... get a good reference... gain experience... EARN a pay raise...
> the economy is filled with people who are earning a lot less than you and
> deserve more and are just waiting for someone like you to step out of that
> job so they can earn more money... it is respectable pay... perhaps not as
> much as you want but the economy does not allow for greed in the IT field
> right now. Employers know that if they have a disgruntled employee, there
> are 1000's out there willing to work for your pay and less... so I would be
> careful what you wish for... using words like underpaid is not safe... some
> may look at that $35000 and wonder what the hell you are thinking... convert
> it to CDN funds so I can relate directly... and it works out to about
> $47,324/yr... that is more than I make annually and I have a lot of
> experience/training/certifications. The market just does not have the room
> for greed... you CAN be replace with someone who is willing to take whatever
> they can get to supply food for their family.
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
|
| We've established that. Ignore him, he might go away.
What do you DO for that kinda money? I need to get involved in some of that!
Neil wrote:
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in news:#yiupuuJEHA.1096
> @TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>
>
>
>
> ....i hate you...
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 1:23 pm |
| well, if he is making exactly 35K at exactly 3 month intervals, then he
must be getting quarterly cheques from the govement for extreme disability.
Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in
news:40854af2$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
> We've established that. Ignore him, he might go away.
>
> What do you DO for that kinda money? I need to get involved in some of
> that!
>
> Neil wrote:
>
>
| |
|
| Unbelievable!
How can anyone (that isn't single) live on 35k a year?
I live in Louisiana, ranked 49th in poverty, no property
taxes on anything under 80k. and I make 75K and my wife
(a school teacher) makes 22K and I still have trouble paying
the bills.
Now LA schools suck so my two kids are in private
school, plus I have some credit card bills, a mortgage,
cable, car note, etc. but I would have to declare bankruptcy
to go on 35K.
And that's what the industry has to offer?
What is wrong with you people? I guess the start at entry
level and work your way up thing is fine, especially for the
younger crowd just starting out, but I thought the days of
staying with a company long term were over. Companies have no
loyalty to tenured employees anymore; jut lay them off when
profits take a dip.
Screw big companies, they scare me. Now, a government job
that's what you want. Can't get fired, excellent benefits,
great retirement. Eh, Consultant?
kpg
"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> # Host-Name Confilct: file://c:\temp\123098.htm (4/20/2004 11:02:32 AM) #
> Hi Guys,
>
> Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?
> I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
| |
| Consultant 2004-04-20, 1:23 pm |
| super-gimp
"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94D17CCF925D2rowdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16...
> well, if he is making exactly 35K at exactly 3 month intervals, then he
> must be getting quarterly cheques from the govement for extreme
disability.
>
>
>
> Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in
> news:40854af2$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
>
>
| |
| Consultant 2004-04-20, 1:23 pm |
| i am a consultant, contract employee, fully expendable, i am here to perform
the work which they refuse and are not capable of doing. but yes, the
government gig is ideal, because, you can be a complete idiot with no
recognizable skills and never get fired or repremanded for not even
attempting to pretend to work. i see it every day.
"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
news:eZldHVvJEHA.3980@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Unbelievable!
>
> How can anyone (that isn't single) live on 35k a year?
>
> I live in Louisiana, ranked 49th in poverty, no property
> taxes on anything under 80k. and I make 75K and my wife
> (a school teacher) makes 22K and I still have trouble paying
> the bills.
>
> Now LA schools suck so my two kids are in private
> school, plus I have some credit card bills, a mortgage,
> cable, car note, etc. but I would have to declare bankruptcy
> to go on 35K.
>
> And that's what the industry has to offer?
>
> What is wrong with you people? I guess the start at entry
> level and work your way up thing is fine, especially for the
> younger crowd just starting out, but I thought the days of
> staying with a company long term were over. Companies have no
> loyalty to tenured employees anymore; jut lay them off when
> profits take a dip.
>
> Screw big companies, they scare me. Now, a government job
> that's what you want. Can't get fired, excellent benefits,
> great retirement. Eh, Consultant?
>
> kpg
>
> "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
#[color=blue]
>
>
| |
|
| "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in news:OJg4IevJEHA.4072
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> i see it every day.
really? I can't find the camera in my office. where did you put it?
--
Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
| billyw 2004-04-20, 2:23 pm |
| sit at home most days of the week and drink beer for that kinda money
"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Guys,
>
> Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?
> I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 2:23 pm |
| waz up, daddy-o! you makin' fun of me?
"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:OJg4IevJEHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> i am a consultant, contract employee, fully expendable, i am here to
> perform the work which they refuse and are not capable of doing. but
> yes, the government gig is ideal, because, you can be a complete idiot
> with no recognizable skills and never get fired or repremanded for not
> even attempting to pretend to work. i see it every day.
>
>
| |
|
| > you can be a complete idiot with no
> recognizable skills and never get fired or repremanded for not even
> attempting to pretend to work.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Nice work if you can get it.
kpg
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 2:23 pm |
| oh, you use linux too.
"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in news:OuCNIavJEHA.3084
@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
> super-gimp
>
> "Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns94D17CCF925D2rowdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16...
> disability.
>
>
| |
|
| Uh... as a "government" worker, I beg to differ. High end, HIGHEST
possible rate here is $29 an hour, canadian tire money. I'm making $25
now. Hence the medical school consideration. My BF works for a hospital,
also Government, makes $30 as well. He sin't likely to get a raise
either, despite his experience (years) certs, or the fact that he has 4
hospitals fighting over him. I still can't believe some of the stories
he tells me about the stupid poeple who work there...
On a side note, I have had 4 users tell me their passwords today. No
one suspects the IT people
kpg wrote:
> Unbelievable!
>
> How can anyone (that isn't single) live on 35k a year?
>
> I live in Louisiana, ranked 49th in poverty, no property
> taxes on anything under 80k. and I make 75K and my wife
> (a school teacher) makes 22K and I still have trouble paying
> the bills.
>
> Now LA schools suck so my two kids are in private
> school, plus I have some credit card bills, a mortgage,
> cable, car note, etc. but I would have to declare bankruptcy
> to go on 35K.
>
> And that's what the industry has to offer?
>
> What is wrong with you people? I guess the start at entry
> level and work your way up thing is fine, especially for the
> younger crowd just starting out, but I thought the days of
> staying with a company long term were over. Companies have no
> loyalty to tenured employees anymore; jut lay them off when
> profits take a dip.
>
> Screw big companies, they scare me. Now, a government job
> that's what you want. Can't get fired, excellent benefits,
> great retirement. Eh, Consultant?
>
> kpg
>
> "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
|
| kpg opined, On 4/20/04 9:34 AM:
> Unbelievable!
>
> How can anyone (that isn't single) live on 35k a year?
Not easy. But can, do, and are thankful for what we have.
>
> I live in Louisiana, ranked 49th in poverty, no property
> taxes on anything under 80k. and I make 75K and my wife
> (a school teacher) makes 22K and I still have trouble paying
> the bills.
>
You simply have way too many bills.
> Now LA schools suck so my two kids are in private
> school, plus I have some credit card bills, a mortgage,
> cable, car note, etc. but I would have to declare bankruptcy
> to go on 35K.
See above. Not all have the luxury of sending their dimpled darlings to
a private school.
>
> And that's what the industry has to offer?
>
If you're lucky!
> What is wrong with you people?
I dunno. What is wrong with you?
I guess the start at entry
> level and work your way up thing is fine,
Pretty much where most start out. Nice for you that you were able to
avoid that part.
>especially for the
> younger crowd just starting out, but I thought the days of
> staying with a company long term were over. Companies have no
> loyalty to tenured employees anymore; jut lay them off when
> profits take a dip.
That's about right. Loyalty is an archaic concept, anyway. Besides,
older employees cost too much. Can get two or three inexperienced for
the price of one. Management knows that a trained chimp can do your job
anyway, right?
>
> Screw big companies, they scare me. Now, a government job
> that's what you want. Can't get fired, excellent benefits,
> great retirement. Eh, Consultant?
If you're lucky enough to find one, you betcha. If not, you make do with
what you can, and be glad you're not flipping burgers or stuffing
grocery sacks.
JaR
..02˘ Thug
| |
| Consultant 2004-04-20, 2:23 pm |
| red hat, yes
"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94D1857B6584Crowdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16...
> oh, you use linux too.
>
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in news:OuCNIavJEHA.3084
> @TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
>
of[color=blue]
>
| |
|
| in my military days I started out at only $18,000 CDN (back in 90)... I was
19 and that was a lot of money for me... worked my way thru the ranks... had
a couple of kids... got divorced... raised the kids as a single mom making
$42,000 at time of release... work that out in American and that is only
$31, 000 USD... still had enough to live well... had a car... ok home...
(well as ok as military housing gets)... wasnt swamped in debt... I made an
okay living
--
Sue MCNGP #69
Proud member since April 8, 2002
"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
news:eZldHVvJEHA.3980@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Unbelievable!
>
> How can anyone (that isn't single) live on 35k a year?
>
> I live in Louisiana, ranked 49th in poverty, no property
> taxes on anything under 80k. and I make 75K and my wife
> (a school teacher) makes 22K and I still have trouble paying
> the bills.
>
> Now LA schools suck so my two kids are in private
> school, plus I have some credit card bills, a mortgage,
> cable, car note, etc. but I would have to declare bankruptcy
> to go on 35K.
>
> And that's what the industry has to offer?
>
> What is wrong with you people? I guess the start at entry
> level and work your way up thing is fine, especially for the
> younger crowd just starting out, but I thought the days of
> staying with a company long term were over. Companies have no
> loyalty to tenured employees anymore; jut lay them off when
> profits take a dip.
>
> Screw big companies, they scare me. Now, a government job
> that's what you want. Can't get fired, excellent benefits,
> great retirement. Eh, Consultant?
>
> kpg
>
> "Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qiqjztJEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
#[color=blue]
>
>
| |
|
| Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in news:408559f8$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
> Uh... as a "government" worker, I beg to differ. High end, HIGHEST
> possible rate here is $29 an hour, canadian tire money. I'm making $25
> now. Hence the medical school consideration. My BF works for a hospital,
> also Government, makes $30 as well. He sin't likely to get a raise
> either, despite his experience (years) certs, or the fact that he has 4
> hospitals fighting over him. I still can't believe some of the stories
> he tells me about the stupid poeple who work there...
well, as another gov worker, your in the wrong part of town kitty. I wont
tell you what I make for the sake of our freindship...
--
Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
|
| I almost did the same thing
My mom, divorced and 42, makes 8.50 and hour (Canadian). She pays 1000
rent and has 3 kids. I thought army pay was great...anxious to sign up,
at 19... til I got my job here.
Now I'm 21 (barely) making 25 an hour, living at home scot free, and
getting free food Gotta love you parents.
Brat wrote:
> in my military days I started out at only $18,000 CDN (back in 90)... I was
> 19 and that was a lot of money for me... worked my way thru the ranks... had
> a couple of kids... got divorced... raised the kids as a single mom making
> $42,000 at time of release... work that out in American and that is only
> $31, 000 USD... still had enough to live well... had a car... ok home...
> (well as ok as military housing gets)... wasnt swamped in debt... I made an
> okay living
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
|
| Neil - let it rip. I'm willing to relocate to Toronto- if there's
anything available, lol. YOu have to remember you're older, and much
more experienced!
Neil wrote:
> Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in news:408559f8$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
>
>
>
>
> well, as another gov worker, your in the wrong part of town kitty. I wont
> tell you what I make for the sake of our freindship...
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
|
| Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
> YOu have to remember you're older, and much
> more experienced!
>
ouch! (checks for more grey hairs)
60k+ and getting a raise this year. but I'm south of TO. could get more
there. But it all is a matter of what you can negotiate...
--
Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 3:24 pm |
| you can always come here and move into my basement. provided you wiling to
help finish it.
:-)
Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in
news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
> Neil - let it rip. I'm willing to relocate to Toronto- if there's
> anything available, lol. YOu have to remember you're older, and much
> more experienced!
>
> Neil wrote:
>
>
| |
|
| Only if I can decorate it too.
Won't your wife get upset ?
Rowdy Yates wrote:
> you can always come here and move into my basement. provided you wiling to
> help finish it.
>
> :-)
>
> Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in
> news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
>
>
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
|
| Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in news:40856864$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
>
> Won't your wife get upset ?
nah, she's lookin to ditch him any way...
*running*
--
Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
| FrisbeeŽ 2004-04-20, 3:25 pm |
| Kat wrote:
> I almost did the same thing
>
> My mom, divorced and 42,
Is she hawt?
--
Fris "Hi SWAMBO! I'm kidding in this post!" beeŽ
Certaholics
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
| |
| Consultant 2004-04-20, 3:25 pm |
| i thought you were going to work for a cruise liner?
"Kat" <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in message
news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca...
> Neil - let it rip. I'm willing to relocate to Toronto- if there's
> anything available, lol. YOu have to remember you're older, and much
> more experienced!
>
> Neil wrote:
>
news:408559f8$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:[color=blue]
wont[color=blue]
>
> --
> Kat
>
> /* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
>
| |
|
| my cousin says they are begging for IT in Ottawa... he was trying to
convince me to move there when he was down last week
--
Sue MCNGP #69
Proud member since April 8, 2002
"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94D18E05077B2neilmcseh
otmailcom@207.46.248.16...
> Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
>
>
> ouch! (checks for more grey hairs)
>
> 60k+ and getting a raise this year. but I'm south of TO. could get more
> there. But it all is a matter of what you can negotiate...
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)
> "you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
|
| I've tried convincing C if I could move into his garage lol
--
Sue MCNGP #69
Proud member since April 8, 2002
"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94D18EA00418Crowdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16...
> you can always come here and move into my basement. provided you wiling to
> help finish it.
>
> :-)
>
> Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in
> news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
>
>
| |
|
| > You simply have way too many bills.
You're right. I do have too many bills. Can I send
you some of them?
> Not all have the luxury of sending their dimpled darlings to
> a private school.
Yes. But here its common. Plus its where my wife
works so we get a 10% discount.
> I dunno. What is wrong with you?
I dunno.
> Pretty much where most start out. Nice for you that you were able to
> avoid that part.
Didn't avoid it. I was just toying with the (now I realize) stupid idea
of a career change. What was I thinking?
> Management knows that a trained chimp can do your job
> anyway, right?
NO. And please don't tell them.
> If you're lucky enough to find one, you betcha.
If I had stayed in the military I could retire with
30 years in 2006 (assuming I was still alive).
Oh well. Just remember: You can't take it with you.
kpg
| |
|
| FrisbeeŽ <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in news:ObvlOSwJEHA.808
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:
> Kat wrote:
>
> Is she hawt?
>
are you asking her to post photos of her mom?
--
Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
|
| "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in news:aZdhc.24180
$Np3.892245@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:
> my cousin says they are begging for IT in Ottawa... he was trying to
> convince me to move there when he was down last week
>
government, I LOVE IT!
--
Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 3:25 pm |
| she couldn't care less about flinguini's.
but she will kick your XXX from here to BC if you attempt to decorate the
house.
;-)
Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in
news:40856864$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
> Only if I can decorate it too.
>
>
> Won't your wife get upset ?
>
> Rowdy Yates wrote:
>
>
| |
|
| No. Wait. How much money did you say you made?
FrisbeeŽ wrote:
> Kat wrote:
>
>
>
> Is she hawt?
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 4:23 pm |
| "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in news:uZdhc.24182
$Np3.892163@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:
> I've tried convincing C if I could move into his garage lol
>
he lives in LA, right? i would ditch my wife and move into his garage just
to hang out on the beach!!
| |
|
| Delayed until summer. Currently sweating discrete math for next 11 weeks.
Consultant wrote:
> i thought you were going to work for a cruise liner?
>
> "Kat" <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in message
> news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca...
>
>
> news:408559f8$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
>
>
> wont
>
>
>
>
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
|
| Me too. with all the money he makes, he must have a mansion. We can both
move in.
Free food and rent 
Rowdy Yates wrote:
> "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in news:uZdhc.24182
> $Np3.892163@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:
>
>
>
>
> he lives in LA, right? i would ditch my wife and move into his garage just
> to hang out on the beach!!
--
Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-04-20, 4:24 pm |
| "FrisbeeŽ" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
news:ObvlOSwJEHA.808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Is she hawt?
Awesome. Kat's got a hot mommy. Bonus!
> --
> Fris "Hi SWAMBO! I'm kidding in this post!" beeŽ
Yes, Mrs. H, Fris was just kidding. Now stop googling him.
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 4:24 pm |
|
she couldn't care less about flinguini's.
but she will kick your bum from here to BC if you attempt to decorate the
house.
;-)
Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in
news:40856864$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:
> Only if I can decorate it too.
>
>
> Won't your wife get upset ?
>
> Rowdy Yates wrote:
>
>
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 4:24 pm |
| "Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in news:eDhz1swJEHA.3728
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> "FrisbeeŽ" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
> news:ObvlOSwJEHA.808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> Awesome. Kat's got a hot mommy. Bonus!
>
>
> Yes, Mrs. H, Fris was just kidding. Now stop googling him.
>
hmmm... hot mama's..... SFW (as long as no one is standing over your
shoulder)
http://www.oliverwillis.com/apprent...ce_fhm041204.jp
g
or
http://tinyurl.com/yvnyy
| |
|
| Real world (discrete) math.
Given a basket of 29 pairs of socks, with no two pairs
alike, what are the odds selecting a matching pair
after randomly picking 7 socks from the basket
in the dark at 5AM while the dog is licking you face?
kpg
| |
|
| "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in news:O6Ids9wJEHA.2456
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> Real world (discrete) math.
>
> Given a basket of 29 pairs of socks, with no two pairs
> alike, what are the odds selecting a matching pair
> after randomly picking 7 socks from the basket
> in the dark at 5AM while the dog is licking you face?
>
> kpg
>
>
>
I wont care at 5am while the dog is licking my face. I'll wear the 2 odd
socks
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-04-20, 4:24 pm |
| "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
news:O6Ids9wJEHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Real world (discrete) math.
>
> Given a basket of 29 pairs of socks, with no two pairs
> alike, what are the odds selecting a matching pair
> after randomly picking 7 socks from the basket
> in the dark at 5AM while the dog is licking you face?
>
You put your clothes in a basket?! Ha! I do laundry, and leave my clothes in
the dryer. If they get wrinkled, I turn the dryer back on for a few minutes.
I live out of the dryer, much like someone on vacation lives out of a
suitcase.
--
KB - MCNGP "Economical thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| Rowdy Yates 2004-04-20, 4:24 pm |
| that depends. do the socks smell?
"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in news:O6Ids9wJEHA.2456
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:
> Real world (discrete) math.
>
> Given a basket of 29 pairs of socks, with no two pairs
> alike, what are the odds selecting a matching pair
> after randomly picking 7 socks from the basket
> in the dark at 5AM while the dog is licking you face?
>
> kpg
>
>
| |
|
| Ah, yes, the bachelor days.
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:OzIfwBxJEHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\123309.htm (4/20/2004 2:51:51
PM) #
> "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
> news:O6Ids9wJEHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> You put your clothes in a basket?! Ha! I do laundry, and leave my clothes
in
> the dryer. If they get wrinkled, I turn the dryer back on for a few
minutes.
> I live out of the dryer, much like someone on vacation lives out of a
> suitcase.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "Economical thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
| |
|
| hey I already claimed on garage... you can have the other one :P (yes he has
2 garages)
--
Sue MCNGP #69
Proud member since April 8, 2002
"Kat" <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org> wrote in message
news:4085725b$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca...
> Me too. with all the money he makes, he must have a mansion. We can both
> move in.
>
> Free food and rent
>
> Rowdy Yates wrote:
>
just[color=blue]
>
> --
> Kat
>
> /* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
>
| |
|
| at least he does laundry
--
Sue MCNGP #69
Proud member since April 8, 2002
"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
news:%23LxazDxJEHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Ah, yes, the bachelor days.
>
> "Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
> news:OzIfwBxJEHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> PM) #
clothes[color=blue]
> in
> minutes.
>
>
| |
| Consultant 2004-04-20, 6:23 pm |
| the only way to fly
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:OzIfwBxJEHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> "kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com> wrote in message
> news:O6Ids9wJEHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
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> You put your clothes in a basket?! Ha! I do laundry, and leave my clothes
in
> the dryer. If they get wrinkled, I turn the dryer back on for a few
minutes.
> I live out of the dryer, much like someone on vacation lives out of a
> suitcase.
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> KB - MCNGP "Economical thug" #26
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> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| You can have them, I get the basement.
Brat wrote:
> hey I already claimed on garage... you can have the other one :P (yes he has
> 2 garages)
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Kat
/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */
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