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OT:Georgia considers banning 'evolution'
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| "jfigueredo" <jfigueredo@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message
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> One more reason to throw the right wing junta out of the White House, and
> all of their operatives in government, so we don't become the Cuba of the
> civilized world.
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Once they ban evolution, only the criminals will evolve!
JaR
Paranoid Thug
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-01-30, 1:23 pm |
| JaR wrote:
> "jfigueredo" <jfigueredo@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message
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> Once they ban evolution, only the criminals will evolve!
Clever... original?
I might alter it slightly:
If they ban evolution, only the creationists will evolve!
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-01-30, 1:23 pm |
| FrisbeeŽ MCNGP wrote:
> JaR wrote:
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> Clever... original?
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> I might alter it slightly:
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> If they ban evolution, only the creationists will evolve!
P.S.
I think you and I have been hanging around in securecomp too long...
It's starting to rub-off on both of us.
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| "FrisbeeŽ MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
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> JaR wrote:
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> Clever... original?
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Yes
> I might alter it slightly:
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No you can't!
> If they ban evolution, only the creationists will evolve!
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But if they do, they will be criminals! QED. :-]
JaR
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| > One more reason to throw the right wing junta out of the White House, and
> all of their operatives in government, so we don't become the Cuba of the
> civilized world.
Evolution is pointless to teach anyways. It's a farce, it has to be when
you consider the Earth is only about 10,000 years old.
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| "FrisbeeŽ MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
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> FrisbeeŽ MCNGP wrote:
> P.S.
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> I think you and I have been hanging around in securecomp too long...
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> It's starting to rub-off on both of us.
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Oh...My...Gawd!
JaR
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"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersdie.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Evolution is pointless to teach anyways. It's a farce, it has to be when
> you consider the Earth is only about 10,000 years old.
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AMEN AND HALLELUJAH BROTHER!
JaR
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Christian Biblical literalists are trusting themselves to an archaic English
translation of a Latin translation of (help me here) Greek? Aramaic?
source.
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-30, 2:23 pm |
| http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/0...n.ap/index.html
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I read this crap this morning. What a load of bung-scum. They're going to
ban the *word* "evolution"? Only to replace it with "biological changes
over time"? Now, I know how some of you feel about our public school
systems, but I believe you'd have to agree when I say that just about ALL
high school students will understand what the fsck they're talking about
when the teachers say "biological changes over time". Fscking idiots. Being
right-minded is fine. Being tip-of-the-right-wing Georgia is stupid.
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| > Christian Biblical literalists are trusting themselves to an archaic
English
> translation of a Latin translation of (help me here) Greek? Aramaic?
> source.
There are other versions. Surely they are not all "wrong" as you imply.
There is more than ample proof to support the bible.
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| Rowdy Yates 2004-01-30, 2:23 pm |
| The South will rise again! Ye'er y'all.
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in news:ufMM2015DHA.2344
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> http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/0...n.ap/index.html
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> I read this crap this morning. What a load of bung-scum. They're going to
> ban the *word* "evolution"? Only to replace it with "biological changes
> over time"? Now, I know how some of you feel about our public school
> systems, but I believe you'd have to agree when I say that just about ALL
> high school students will understand what the fsck they're talking about
> when the teachers say "biological changes over time". Fscking idiots.
Being
> right-minded is fine. Being tip-of-the-right-wing Georgia is stupid.
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> --
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> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
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> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| Politician Spock 2004-01-30, 2:23 pm |
| Funny thing is, very few on the right wing support this either. It's just a
collection of extremists promoting their agenda.
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"jfigueredo" <jfigueredo@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message
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> One more reason to throw the right wing junta out of the White House, and
> all of their operatives in government, so we don't become the Cuba of the
> civilized world.
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> http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/0...n.ap/index.html
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> Jose
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| "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersdie.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> There are other versions. Surely they are not all "wrong" as you imply.
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I didn't, that was a quote.
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> There is more than ample proof to support the bible.
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Here, have fun;
http://thamus.org/eac/bible-apologist.html
Really, I'm laughing *with* you. Really.
JaR
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| "Politician Spock" <rhammersmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Funny thing is, very few on the right wing support this either. It's just
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> collection of extremists promoting their agenda.
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It's so fsck'n absurd, it doesn't bear comment!
So, it'll probably pass.
JaR
Cynical Thug
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| > Really, I'm laughing *with* you. Really.
I find your lack of faith... disturbing.
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-01-30, 2:23 pm |
| Jtyc wrote:
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> I find your lack of faith... disturbing.
I'm an atheist. Swear to GOD I am!
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-30, 3:23 pm |
| > There is more than ample proof to support the bible.
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I can't tell if you're serious or just kidding.
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| WildCelt 2004-01-30, 3:24 pm |
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JaR wrote:
> "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersdie.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Christian Biblical literalists are trusting themselves to an archaic English
> translation of a Latin translation of (help me here) Greek? Aramaic?
> source.
Hebrew, specifically Masoretic
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| > I can't tell if you're serious or just kidding.
There is nothing to kid about when discussing the bible.
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| "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersdie.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> There is nothing to kid about when discussing the bible.
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See, there, he just gave it away.
I'm still laughing *with* you. Really!
Oh! BTW, I've got a map to the *real* location of Noah's Ark I'll let ya
have for a song. Just don't tell anybody else, OK?
JaR
Gypsy Thug
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-01-30, 4:23 pm |
| Jtyc wrote:
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> There is nothing to kid about when discussing the bible.
There's someone who goes by "Tracey" on securecomp news who would like to be
your friend.
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| > There's someone who goes by "Tracey" on securecomp news who would like to
be
> your friend.
I can always visit Bevets.
(Must be a Farker to get it)
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| > Oh! BTW, I've got a map to the *real* location of Noah's Ark I'll let ya
> have for a song. Just don't tell anybody else, OK?
Noah's Ark has been found. The Turkish government won't allow any more
expeditions on Mount Ararat.
The great flood has been documented in many cultures. Christians are not
the only ones who believe it.
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-30, 4:23 pm |
| > > I can't tell if you're serious or just kidding.
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> There is nothing to kid about when discussing the bible.
I can't tell if you're serious or just kidding.
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| "FrisbeeŽ MCNGP" <oncebitten@twiceshy.com> wrote in message
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> There's someone who goes by "Tracey" on securecomp news who would like to
be
> your friend.
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I think AM would enjoy his company as well, but craig would give him a run!
JaR
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| "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersdie.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> expeditions on Mount Ararat.
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Wrong! It's in Wenatchee, WA.
> The great flood has been documented in many cultures. Christians are not
> the only ones who believe it.
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Right! It went all the way from Montana to the Pacific!
JaR
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| > Right! It went all the way from Montana to the Pacific!
Other ancient cultures have documented it.
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| > I can't tell if you're serious or just kidding.
Thing beginning of all things and our ultimate judgment is nothing to kid
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-30, 5:23 pm |
| > > I can't tell if you're serious or just kidding.
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> Thing beginning of all things and our ultimate judgment is nothing to kid
> about.
Screw the Bible. www.bibledumps.com is where it's at.
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| > Screw the Bible. www.bibledumps.com is where it's at.
I think you made that link up.
There is no way to add a base pair to a DNA strand. You can lose them, yes.
Not add them. That means that you can't have evolution. Only de-evolution.
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-30, 6:23 pm |
| > > Screw the Bible. www.bibledumps.com is where it's at.
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> I think you made that link up.
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Oh. They must, uh, just be down right now...
> There is no way to add a base pair to a DNA strand. You can lose them,
yes.
> Not add them. That means that you can't have evolution. Only
de-evolution.
OK, if that's true, and I'll suppose, for the sake of argument that it is,
then this doesn't address evolution at all. There is no need to add base
pairs to a DNA strand to make it *different* from another DNA strand. There
are 4 basic protiens of which a DNA strand is made. Adenine, Guanine,
Cytosine, and Thiamine (A, G, C, and T). A pairs with T (usually) and G
pairs with C (usually). A long string of these pairs makes up a particular
gene (and a long string of genes makes up your DNA.). When A doesn't pair
with T (and G with C) or when "your" G/C pair is located where "my" A/T
pair is, is where differences in genes lie. It's these mutations (*every*
difference is technically a mutation. Whether it's significant enough to
actually change anything is another story.) that create differences between
you and me, and you and your offspring. When your offspring end up with a
mutation such as blond hair, it is advantageous to them if they live in
Sweden, but not if they live in the jungle. (So they can blend in with the
snow, and not stick out like a sore thumb in the jungle. Obviously there
are millions of better examples.)
So there is no need for added base pairs to address the issue of evolution
(sorry..."biological changes over time"). And, on a semi-related note, not
only can base pairs be added, but entire chromosomes can be added to your
DNA structure. Down's Syndrome is the direct result of having a 3rd copy of
your 21st chromosome, when you should only have 2.
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| > So there is no need for added base pairs to address the issue of evolution
> (sorry..."biological changes over time").
Evolution contends that life evolved from single celled organisms. Surely
you are not suggesting that those "cells" contain the same amount of base
pairs as humans today?
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| Wow! Someone paid attention in microbiology.
Ape DNA is 99% similar to Human DNA.
Genes are very powerful.
Don't mess with genes.
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| "Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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it <gentetics lesson snipped>
Aw, sh$t! Here we go....
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| > Aw, sh$t! Here we go....
Look people, it is this easy:
"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you
do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you
will understand why I dismiss yours."
....Stephen F Roberts
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| "JaR" <plente@nospamsofthome.net> wrote in message
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> <gentetics lesson snipped>
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"gentetics" LOL @ me!
I meant genetalics. Of course.
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| "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@f'nspammersdie.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you
> will understand why I dismiss yours."
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Ummm, sorry, I haven't been following *real* close, but aren't you back on
the other side of the argument again?
I'm not gonna play at all if you don't quit switching sides!
JaR
Thug #180
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-31, 12:23 am |
| > > So there is no need for added base pairs to address the issue of
evolution
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> Evolution contends that life evolved from single celled organisms. Surely
> you are not suggesting that those "cells" contain the same amount of base
> pairs as humans today?
No. Well, kinda. But no. There is no *need* to address quantity of base
pairs when discussing evolution at the level we're discussing it at. When
you dive deeper into the true biological/chemical/whatever aspects of it,
then it does become apparent what is going on...As, Cs, Gs, and Ts get not
only mixed and matched, but re-ordered, added, and subtracted. So when
biologists/genetecists/whomever discuss evolution amongst themselves, then
yeah, you do need to address this fact, and no, an ancient single-celled
creature does not have the same amount of genetic material that a human cell
has.
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-02-02, 10:23 am |
| > Look people, it is this easy:
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> "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you
> do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you
> will understand why I dismiss yours."
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> ...Stephen F Roberts
I like this quote. Good find.
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-02-02, 10:23 am |
| kpg wrote:
> Wow! Someone paid attention in microbiology.
> Ape DNA is 99% similar to Human DNA.
> Genes are very powerful.
> Don't mess with genes.
I don't have much to add to that except that I miss Captain Kangaroo.
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-02-02, 10:23 am |
| Jtyc wrote:
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> Look people, it is this easy:
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> "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than
> you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible
> gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
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> ...Stephen F Roberts
I like that.
George Carlin said something like "Religion is like corrective shoes. If
you need them, they're great! But please, don't ask me to wear your
corrective shoes."
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-02-02, 11:23 am |
| > Fris "I need a place for my stuff" beeŽ MCNGP #13
Have you read Carlin's books? Hilarious. They're filled with one liners
that can be terribly random. "Braindroppings" and "Napalm and Silly Putty".
He writes coherently enough to convey his on-stage persona, so the writing
comes off as angry at some points. Which is the fun of it all, I suppose.
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-02-02, 11:23 am |
| Ken Briscoe wrote:
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> Have you read Carlin's books? Hilarious. They're filled with one
> liners that can be terribly random. "Braindroppings" and "Napalm and
> Silly Putty". He writes coherently enough to convey his on-stage
> persona, so the writing comes off as angry at some points. Which is
> the fun of it all, I suppose.
I find it incredibly ironic that as his stand-up humor is more or less adult
in nature, he's one of three narrators for Thomas the Tank Engine and
Friends. He's probably better than the other two narrators, Alec Baldwin
and Ringo Starr, at doing voices for the various characters.
<Scottish Accent>
I'm a plain engine! And I believe in plain speakin'!
</Scottish Accent>
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| > Ummm, sorry, I haven't been following *real* close, but aren't you back on
> the other side of the argument again?
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> I'm not gonna play at all if you don't quit switching sides!
My apologies. I forgot what side I was arguing...
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