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Al

2004-01-29, 1:23 pm

I am just about through with my 2 year networking degree,
this is my last semester. I understand the microsoft
concepts and know a little about everything now and i've
taken classes such as 2000, 2000 server, network
infrastructure, and active directory....I feel
intimidated by the microsoft tests and I'm not a very
good test taker. I'm not very good at memorizing the
book word by word and answering those multiple selection
questions. Is there a good strategic way for me to
prepare myself so I have a chance of working my way up to
an MCSE? Any good study methods? Thank you!

Al
Paul Lynch

2004-01-29, 1:23 pm

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:13:59 -0800, "Al"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am just about through with my 2 year networking degree,
>this is my last semester. I understand the microsoft
>concepts and know a little about everything now and i've
>taken classes such as 2000, 2000 server, network
>infrastructure, and active directory....I feel
>intimidated by the microsoft tests and I'm not a very
>good test taker. I'm not very good at memorizing the
>book word by word and answering those multiple selection
>questions. Is there a good strategic way for me to
>prepare myself so I have a chance of working my way up to
>an MCSE? Any good study methods? Thank you!
>
>Al


Al,

Don't be intimidated by the tests, they're not impossible to pass if
you know your stuff.

Start here :
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/m...are/default.asp

Good luck !


Regards,

Paul Lynch
MCSE
Brat

2004-01-29, 1:23 pm

"Al" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6e9e01c3e68b$48fbccd0$a60
1280a@phx.gbl...
> I am just about through with my 2 year networking degree,
> this is my last semester. I understand the microsoft
> concepts and know a little about everything now and i've
> taken classes such as 2000, 2000 server, network
> infrastructure, and active directory....I feel
> intimidated by the microsoft tests and I'm not a very
> good test taker. I'm not very good at memorizing the
> book word by word and answering those multiple selection
> questions. Is there a good strategic way for me to
> prepare myself so I have a chance of working my way up to
> an MCSE? Any good study methods? Thank you!
>
> Al


It is not a question of memorizing a book word for word... it is more a
matter of understanding the concepts and being able to implement what you
have learned. As for test taking? I suffer from severe test anxiety and I
still managed to pass my exams. What I have learned to do is study study
study, practice practice practice... and I keep doing this until I am
confident with what I know to take the exams. I do not take an exam until I
am confident enough to pass... then I go in with an attitude... "I WILL pass
this exam". I also did some research about test anxiety on the web and one
piece of advice that has stuck with me (and worked) is to go into the
exam... do the questions you know... once finished, go back (do not hit the
end button and use the 15 mins they allow you to go back and review marked
questions) and go thru the questions that you did not know... a lot of times
questions are asked later in the exam that will trigger a memory that will
help you answer previous questions... keep doing this until you have either
answered all the questions or you cannot get anymore. Once that is done, go
over the questions you did not know and guess... a guessed answer is better
than one left blank... you at least have a chance of getting it right.
Also, when answering question you are unsure of, eliminate the answers you
KNOW are incorrect and then concentrate on the remaining answers. Also,
never second guess yourself... go with what you know... I never mark the
questions during the exam... that always makes me go back over ones I HAVE
answered and make me try to second guess myself... 9/10 times, you answered
right the first time... unless, as I mentioned, a question later on reminds
you of a fact that will change the answer but you will have remembered the
question and can just hit the previous button until you find that question.

You can also find sites that have "Questions of the day"...
www.cramsession.com and www.mcseworld.com are 2 very good sites who offer
legal questions that can help you prepare for the exam... they are not
questions directly from the exam but it will have a two-fold purpose... 1)
you will learn the format of the exams and 2) it helps you gauge how well
you know the material. There are also sites like www.measureup.com and
www.selftestsoftware.com that are sanctioned by microsoft that you can buy
that will help you learn the material as well.

--
Sue Thugette #69


Rowdy Yates

2004-01-29, 2:23 pm

What in god's name is a "networking degree"? who the hell is
giving you that thing?

"Al" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:6e9e01c3e68b$48fbccd0$a60
1280a@phx.gbl:

> I am just about through with my 2 year networking degree,
> this is my last semester. I understand the microsoft
> concepts and know a little about everything now and i've
> taken classes such as 2000, 2000 server, network
> infrastructure, and active directory....I feel
> intimidated by the microsoft tests and I'm not a very
> good test taker. I'm not very good at memorizing the
> book word by word and answering those multiple selection
> questions. Is there a good strategic way for me to
> prepare myself so I have a chance of working my way up to
> an MCSE? Any good study methods? Thank you!
>
> Al




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Rowdy Yates

2004-01-29, 2:23 pm

at the end of every exam. i always cover my eyes with both
hands and wait. i also pray a little. after 5 minutes i look up
to see what happened. so far it's been a "pass" every time, but
there is always a first time.

on a serious note. the pass mark is about 70% for MS exams. if
you can't get a 70% - then you:
a) did not study enough (has nothing to do with luck!)
b) you do not understand the material
c) you deserve to fail, pay microsoft $125 to take the test all
over again.

i am sorry, but you should not be going into the work place and
having 200 or 300 people rely on "you" to make sure "they" can
get their jobs done day-in and day-out. that is the cold hard
truth.

for the people brain-dumping out there, remember that last
paragraph well. when the shit hits the fan, there will be 200 to
300 people freaking out on you 'cause they can't do any work.
opening a microsoft book is not an option in that scenario.
=?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?=

2004-01-29, 2:23 pm

Experience with the product...
Brat

2004-01-29, 2:23 pm

I used to do that too... but one day I tried to do that but the results came
up so fast (when they changed to Congrats you passed) it freaked me out.
There were days where I walked in shaking because I was so nervous but sure
I would pass and I would walk out shaking because I was so THRILLED that I
had passed... and I did see the red bar(when they did that for marks) more
than once... but I have seen the green bar more than the red so yay for me!

--
Sue Thugette #69

"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@removethis.lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Xns947F87BEE945Drowdyyate
s2123@207.46.248.16...
> at the end of every exam. i always cover my eyes with both
> hands and wait. i also pray a little. after 5 minutes i look up
> to see what happened. so far it's been a "pass" every time, but
> there is always a first time.
>
> on a serious note. the pass mark is about 70% for MS exams. if
> you can't get a 70% - then you:
> a) did not study enough (has nothing to do with luck!)
> b) you do not understand the material
> c) you deserve to fail, pay microsoft $125 to take the test all
> over again.
>
> i am sorry, but you should not be going into the work place and
> having 200 or 300 people rely on "you" to make sure "they" can
> get their jobs done day-in and day-out. that is the cold hard
> truth.
>
> for the people brain-dumping out there, remember that last
> paragraph well. when the shit hits the fan, there will be 200 to
> 300 people freaking out on you 'cause they can't do any work.
> opening a microsoft book is not an option in that scenario.



The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-29, 2:23 pm

>Experience with the product...

Do you have a split personality or something?

One moment you're the brain dumper's best friend next you're talking
sense!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
Marlin Munrow (The PFY)

2004-01-29, 5:23 pm

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:13:59 -0800, "Al"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am just about through with my 2 year networking degree,
>this is my last semester. I understand the microsoft
>concepts and know a little about everything now and i've
>taken classes such as 2000, 2000 server, network
>infrastructure, and active directory....I feel
>intimidated by the microsoft tests and I'm not a very
>good test taker. I'm not very good at memorizing the
>book word by word and answering those multiple selection
>questions. Is there a good strategic way for me to
>prepare myself so I have a chance of working my way up to
>an MCSE? Any good study methods? Thank you!
>
>Al


If memorisation or absorbing materials is the problem look out for
Colin Rose Accellerated Learning - there's also an audio series.

I use it - I swear by it. It works.


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showgun

2004-01-30, 4:23 am

brat you talk to much, or maybe im just to lazy to read
all your post
>-----Original Message-----
>"Al" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
> news:6e9e01c3e68b$48fbccd0$a60
1280a@phx.gbl...
degree,[color=blue]
to[color=blue]
>
>It is not a question of memorizing a book word for

word... it is more a
>matter of understanding the concepts and being able to

implement what you
>have learned. As for test taking? I suffer from severe

test anxiety and I
>still managed to pass my exams. What I have learned to

do is study study
>study, practice practice practice... and I keep doing

this until I am
>confident with what I know to take the exams. I do not

take an exam until I
>am confident enough to pass... then I go in with an

attitude... "I WILL pass
>this exam". I also did some research about test anxiety

on the web and one
>piece of advice that has stuck with me (and worked) is to

go into the
>exam... do the questions you know... once finished, go

back (do not hit the
>end button and use the 15 mins they allow you to go back

and review marked
>questions) and go thru the questions that you did not

know... a lot of times
>questions are asked later in the exam that will trigger a

memory that will
>help you answer previous questions... keep doing this

until you have either
>answered all the questions or you cannot get anymore.

Once that is done, go
>over the questions you did not know and guess... a

guessed answer is better
>than one left blank... you at least have a chance of

getting it right.
>Also, when answering question you are unsure of,

eliminate the answers you
>KNOW are incorrect and then concentrate on the remaining

answers. Also,
>never second guess yourself... go with what you know... I

never mark the
>questions during the exam... that always makes me go back

over ones I HAVE
>answered and make me try to second guess myself... 9/10

times, you answered
>right the first time... unless, as I mentioned, a

question later on reminds
>you of a fact that will change the answer but you will

have remembered the
>question and can just hit the previous button until you

find that question.
>
>You can also find sites that have "Questions of the

day"...
>www.cramsession.com and www.mcseworld.com are 2 very good

sites who offer
>legal questions that can help you prepare for the exam...

they are not
>questions directly from the exam but it will have a two-

fold purpose... 1)
>you will learn the format of the exams and 2) it helps

you gauge how well
>you know the material. There are also sites like

www.measureup.com and
>www.selftestsoftware.com that are sanctioned by microsoft

that you can buy
>that will help you learn the material as well.
>
>--
>Sue Thugette #69
>
>
>.
>

RcSnydley

2004-01-31, 10:23 am

brat you may be long winded but I for one appreciate your
advice
Thanks.
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