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|
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| Has anyone taken the exch 70-224 exam in the last month
or so? I've got the books but wanted to know if the
testkings are any good for this one.
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| |{evin 2004-01-26, 10:23 am |
| On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:50:50 -0800, "David"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Has anyone taken the exch 70-224 exam in the last month
>or so? I've got the books but wanted to know if the
>testkings are any good for this one.
Sure, if you like being an assXXXXer.
| |
|
| Experience with the product will help you.
"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone taken the exch 70-224 exam in the last month
> or so? I've got the books but wanted to know if the
> testkings are any good for this one.
| |
|
|
>-----Original Message-----
>On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:50:50 -0800, "David"
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>Sure, if you like being an assXXXXer.
>
>.
>
If that turns you on...
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|
>-----Original Message-----
>Experience with the product will help you.
>
>"David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> news:44ce01c3e3e1$1e2c91d0$a50
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>
>
>.
>
I installed a trial version but couldn't get it to work.
who needs it when you've got testkings though - worked
for me with the server exam!
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| Sweething 2004-01-27, 4:23 am |
|
>-----Original Message-----
>On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:50:50 -0800, "David"
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>Sure, if you like being an assXXXXer.
>
>.
>
I wonder if abuse@insightbb.com would appreciate your
language? Let's find out...
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|
| Oh.. you are in deep deep shit now.. You should try to up the product
that you are gonna sit for the exam at least. Don't believe in overly
promised brain dump's site. testking is the most famous brain dump of
all and even if the questions are same as in exam, most of the answers
provided by brain dumps are wrong!!!
So be afraid, be very afraid and don't waste your time and money on
brain dumps.
Don't devalue yourself to be a paper MCSE. It is utterly foolish,
disillusional and self-destructive to yourself and your future career,
not to mention the added woes to the values of average MCSEs and
unemployment rates.
Get to know the real product. Don't try to cheat.
D wrote:
> message
>
> I installed a trial version but couldn't get it to work.
> who needs it when you've got testkings though - worked
> for me with the server exam!
| |
| |{evin 2004-01-27, 8:23 am |
| On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:23:16 -0800, "Sweething"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>I wonder if abuse@insightbb.com would appreciate your
>language? Let's find out...
Wow! Someone who knows how to view headers... woohoo!
From Insight's TOS:
"ii. post, store, transmit or disseminate any information or material
which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive,
indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing,
distressing, vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or
otherwise inappropriate, regardless of whether such material or its
dissemination is unlawful; "
"a reasonable person".. very open to interpretation.
| |
| Consultant 2004-01-27, 12:23 pm |
| hey david, lighten up. he did not call him that, he merely implied he would
be one for cheating. kinda like you being one for trying to snitch on
someone. i remember you, you are the kid from third grade who told on us
then i kicked your XXX. still a punk, huh.
"|{evin" <You@dont.need> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:23:16 -0800, "Sweething"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wow! Someone who knows how to view headers... woohoo!
>
> From Insight's TOS:
> "ii. post, store, transmit or disseminate any information or material
> which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive,
> indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing,
> distressing, vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or
> otherwise inappropriate, regardless of whether such material or its
> dissemination is unlawful; "
>
> "a reasonable person".. very open to interpretation.
>
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-27, 12:23 pm |
| > I installed a trial version but couldn't get it to work.
> who needs it when you've got testkings though - worked
> for me with the server exam!
You're such a fscking piece of sh!t. You make me sick. Why don't you learn
the right way instead of cheating?
--
KB - MCNGP "disgusted thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-27, 12:23 pm |
| >> I installed a trial version but couldn't get it to work.
>
>You're such a fscking piece of sh!t. You make me sick. Why don't you learn
>the right way instead of cheating?
There is no chance of that!0
The moron can't even install and get the 'trial' version working, so
there's no chance this XXXXwit could learn anything - it can't even
manage an alias of more than one character!
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
| Consultant 2004-01-27, 12:23 pm |
| how do you really feel?
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
news:uF0lfRP5DHA.2440@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> You're such a fscking piece of sh!t. You make me sick. Why don't you learn
> the right way instead of cheating?
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "disgusted thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-27, 1:23 pm |
| > how do you really feel?
assXXXXer.
--
KB - MCNGP "emotional thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| Marlin Munrow (The PFY) 2004-01-27, 5:23 pm |
| On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:50:50 -0800, "David"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Has anyone taken the exch 70-224 exam in the last month
>or so? I've got the books but wanted to know if the
>testkings are any good for this one.
<IRONY>
Testkings are good for this exam as no-one has ever in recorded
history honestly studied it and passed. Its w-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-y
to hard for any ordinary mortal without some help!
</IRONY>
==============================
==
We require rigidly defined areas
of doubt and uncertainty!
(remove vroomfondle to email me)
==============================
==
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| |{evin 2004-01-27, 8:23 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:08:15 -0500, "Ken Briscoe"
<youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote:
>
>assXXXXer.
Be careful... 'sweething' will report you.
| |
| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-28, 1:23 pm |
| Done it today! Now I'm MCSE.
Testking and Troytech were two very good guides.
| |
|
| wait... you want to do your CCIE and you state it is harder than MS exams
yet you need to cheat to pass the MS exams??? good luck dumbass
--
Sue Thugette #69
"Gilly" <gilly@oninet.pt> wrote in message
news:70D478CF-6074-4941-B990-DDD5E36FAE75@microsoft.com...
> Done it today! Now I'm MCSE.
>
> testking and Troytech were two very good guides.
| |
|
| "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in message
news:umnwvOc5DHA.1968@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> wait... you want to do your CCIE and you state it is harder than MS exams
> yet you need to cheat to pass the MS exams??? good luck dumbass
>
>
CCIE is gonna be a long time coming for this guy.
| |
|
| "JaR" <plente@nospamsofthome.net> wrote in message
news:%23%23XYAWc5DHA.2560@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> "Brat" < likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams
.com> wrote in message
> news:umnwvOc5DHA.1968@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
exams[color=blue]
>
> CCIE is gonna be a long time coming for this guy.
>
I'd say... I'm studying for my CCNP right now and have already bought 3
books and I have a few more I need to buy... one is a new book by Cisco
Press that is 2500 pages and costs $146+ tax CDN!!! By the time I am done I
will probably be after reading about 10,000 pages! Add to that, I do not
have the money for the equipment so I have to purchase a simulator for $134
and also will have to get some lab time somewhere... maybe my new job will
let me hide in their ops room during off hours to play around with the
routers and switches in there 
>
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-28, 2:23 pm |
| >Were you imposed a 3 months deadline to have your MCSE done?
>I was...
>
>And what I really like is "Internetworking"... not "Systems Engineer" stuff!
>Besides, I have a much more CV on the former than on the latter. So, CCIE will be much more fun than CCIE.
>
>(Did that just answer your question?)
The likes of testking and Troytech are no more than brain dumps. Their
existence has helped undermine the value of microsoft certs. So no, I
don't believe that answered Sue's question.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-28, 2:23 pm |
| What on earth is the undermining of M$ certifications got to do with deadlines and my personal likings for "internetworking"?...
Didn't quite get it... =S
----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
The likes of testking and Troytech are no more than brain dumps. Their
existence has helped undermine the value of microsoft certs. So no, I
don't believe that answered Sue's question.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-28, 3:23 pm |
| > What on earth is the undermining of M$ certifications got to do with
deadlines and my personal likings for "internetworking"?...
Absolutely nothing. It's not the deadlines or your personal interests that
we give a crap about. It's how you acheived your ends. You cheated your way
through your certification. Do you know what this means?
1) You're a scummy cheater.
2) You do not know *how* to do things an MCSE/CCIE/whatever you are should
know how to do, because you memorized answers on a cheat sheet. This means
that you don't know how to do your job properly, and will leave a bad taste
in your boss' mouth in regards to certified professionals. This ruins the
certification for the rest of us. Not to mention the fact that, upon your
certification, you added one extra MCSE to the job pool, making it that
much harder for hte legitimate MCSEs to find jobs.
You haven't asked why we consider you a cheater, so I assume you know
already. But I have to ask: if you knew you were cheating, why didn't you
say something to your boss (or whomever imposed a deadline on you for
something you were so clearly unprepared for)? Why would you fake your way
through your job? Do you have no pride? I understand that you probably have
kids and a house and all kinds of bills. But your boss does too. I'm sure
he/she doesn't want to hire/promote someone to do work they're not
qualified for. This reflects poorly on him. So the question is: Why the
hell do you want to work for a company that would put you in this position?
You need to step back and rethink some stuff. Or just straight up tell
everyone you're an immoral assfscker.
--
KB - MCNGP "boo-yah! thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-28, 3:24 pm |
| I have no idea. Maybe you should re-read my reply.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:46:04 -0800, "Gilly"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>What on earth is the undermining of M$ certifications got to do with deadlines and my personal likings for "internetworking"?...
>Didn't quite get it... =S
>
> ----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
>
> The likes of testking and Troytech are no more than brain dumps. Their
> existence has helped undermine the value of microsoft certs. So no, I
> don't believe that answered Sue's question.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-28, 4:23 pm |
| >2) You do not know *how* to do things an MCSE/CCIE/whatever you are should
>know how to do, because you memorized answers on a cheat sheet. This means
>that you don't know how to do your job properly, and will leave a bad taste
>in your boss' mouth in regards to certified professionals. This ruins the
>certification for the rest of us. Not to mention the fact that, upon your
>certification, you added one extra MCSE to the job pool, making it that
>much harder for hte legitimate MCSEs to find jobs.
As we saw here a few weeks back, people just don't understand the
situation, some don't even care. It would seem that this type of
'approach' for 'obtaining' cert's comes highly recommend by a number
of sites which operate today, so it's not surprising that people don't
see a problem in cheating their way through the process.
Microsoft do nothing about this and is why I won't be doing any more
microsoft certs. I guess that's no big lose either way.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-28, 4:23 pm |
| Do you have a life? I do!
And no wife, no kids... just a cool 23 yo guy!
And btw... my boss is actually one of the first MCSE and CCIE certified *ever* in Portugal.
He imposed the deadline and he reccomended that study method himself! He didn't hire/promote me because of my MCSE certification. He knows pretty well what I'm worth! And I had this job *before* I started my MCSE.
I don't think ANY of you guys have half the Microsoft/Cisco Systems skills he has, so...
....anyone else with this crappy bullsh*t?
----- Ken Briscoe wrote: -----
2) You do not know *how* to do things an MCSE/CCIE/whatever you are should
know how to do, because you memorized answers on a cheat sheet. This means
that you don't know how to do your job properly, and will leave a bad taste
in your boss' mouth in regards to certified professionals. This ruins the
certification for the rest of us. Not to mention the fact that, upon your
certification, you added one extra MCSE to the job pool, making it that
much harder for hte legitimate MCSEs to find jobs.
You haven't asked why we consider you a cheater, so I assume you know
already. But I have to ask: if you knew you were cheating, why didn't you
say something to your boss (or whomever imposed a deadline on you for
something you were so clearly unprepared for)? Why would you fake your way
through your job? Do you have no pride? I understand that you probably have
kids and a house and all kinds of bills. But your boss does too. I'm sure
he/she doesn't want to hire/promote someone to do work they're not
qualified for. This reflects poorly on him. So the question is: Why the
hell do you want to work for a company that would put you in this position?
You need to step back and rethink some stuff. Or just straight up tell
everyone you're an immoral assfscker.
--
KB - MCNGP "boo-yah! thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-28, 4:23 pm |
| >And btw... my boss is actually one of the first MCSE and CCIE certified *ever* in Portugal.
Does he sell time share apartments as well?
>I don't think ANY of you guys have half the Microsoft/Cisco Systems skills he has, so...
.... What.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
|
| "Gilly" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BB3D28D5-297C-40F6-B1F5-BAD7F7EDFC24@microsoft.com...
> I don't think ANY of you guys have half the Microsoft/Cisco Systems skills
he has, so...
>
>
Pro that you are, you would be able to tell...
>
> ...anyone else with this crappy bullsh*t?
>
>
No, yours is enough, thanks
JaR
Exasperated Thug
| |
| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-28, 4:25 pm |
| I totally agree with you.
If Microsoft changes the way exams are done, I'd aprove it!
How the h*ll can you answer theoretical questions about such complex envoirnments such as a network and a whole bunch of servers?
That's why Cisco's examinations are much better than Microsoft's!
You won't get even a CCNA/CCNP without a few simulation questions!
You won't get a CCIE without a full lab examination, dealing with a full set of servers, routers and switches.
So, if Microsoft does anything similar to this, I'd aprove. Otherwise, it would be another stupid kind of examination!
----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
>2) You do not know *how* to do things an MCSE/CCIE/whatever you are should
>know how to do, because you memorized answers on a cheat sheet. This means
>that you don't know how to do your job properly, and will leave a bad taste
>in your boss' mouth in regards to certified professionals. This ruins the
>certification for the rest of us. Not to mention the fact that, upon your
>certification, you added one extra MCSE to the job pool, making it that
>much harder for hte legitimate MCSEs to find jobs.
As we saw here a few weeks back, people just don't understand the
situation, some don't even care. It would seem that this type of
'approach' for 'obtaining' cert's comes highly recommend by a number
of sites which operate today, so it's not surprising that people don't
see a problem in cheating their way through the process.
Microsoft do nothing about this and is why I won't be doing any more
microsoft certs. I guess that's no big lose either way.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
|
| "Gilly" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9490AC16-918F-4A79-A166-3A70B2ABC84C@microsoft.com...
> So, if Microsoft does anything similar to this, I'd aprove. Otherwise, it
would be another stupid kind of examination!
>
>
Just curious. If you and your boss both feel that way, WTF did he insist you
waste your time and (presumably) the companys'
money obtaining the cert? I don't get it? Just to have letters after your
name that nobody recognises as meningful?
That's insane!
JaR
Incredulous Thug
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-28, 4:25 pm |
| > I totally agree with you.
>
> If Microsoft changes the way exams are done, I'd aprove it!
> How the h*ll can you answer theoretical questions about such complex
envoirnments such as a network and a whole bunch of servers?
>
> That's why Cisco's examinations are much better than Microsoft's!
> You won't get even a CCNA/CCNP without a few simulation questions!
> You won't get a CCIE without a full lab examination, dealing with a full
set of servers, routers and switches.
>
You make sense here.
> So, if Microsoft does anything similar to this, I'd aprove. Otherwise, it
would be another stupid kind of examination!
>
Microsoft doesn't do anything similar to this. Good thing for you. Cheater.
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-28, 4:25 pm |
| > Do you have a life? I do!
I'm actually dead. It's a shame, really, because I had a lot more fun when
I had a life.
> And no wife, no kids... just a cool 23 yo guy!
Ditto. Except I'm 22. But the difference is I realize what the MCSE
actually is. It's not a certification for an early-20's kid. I have nowhere
near enough experience to get out there and pass all 7 exams. I'm doing
them as I gain experience. Not as I finish memorizing a Testking. I don't
know you or your personal situation, but I feel pretty safe in guessing
that you don't have much experience, judging from your age. So why do you
think you have the know how to be an MCSE? Because you downloaded some
br@indumps?
> And btw... my boss is actually one of the first MCSE and CCIE certified
*ever* in Portugal.
Hmm. I'm the first guy named Ken Briscoe to pass a Microsoft exam while
wearing a leopard-skin do-rag and eating a Philly Cheesesteak. And the
kicker? I used Tarot cards to pass, not my real knowledge.
> He imposed the deadline and he reccomended that study method himself!
Your boss is a complete idiot and should be forced to watch gay midget pr0n
while you "rebuild" his network from the ground up.
> He didn't hire/promote me because of my MCSE certification. He knows
pretty well what I'm worth! And I had this job *before* I started my MCSE.
Maybe he didn't promote you because he knows you're a cheater.
> I don't think ANY of you guys have half the Microsoft/Cisco Systems
skills he has, so...
so...
> ...anyone else with this crappy bullsh*t?
anyone else with what crappy bullsh*t?
--
KB - MCNGP "Tarot thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-28, 4:25 pm |
| >So, if Microsoft does anything similar to this, I'd aprove. Otherwise, it would be another stupid kind of examination!
Unfortunately it does not appear it will happen.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-28, 4:25 pm |
| Some stupid Manufactures' partnerships... really stupid stuff, beleive it!...
Of course I'd rather study with a bunch of servers around me... and I'm really sorry I couldn't! So "cheating" was the only way.
----- JaR wrote: -----
"Gilly" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9490AC16-918F-4A79-A166-3A70B2ABC84C@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
would be another stupid kind of examination![color=blue]
Just curious. If you and your boss both feel that way, WTF did he insist you
waste your time and (presumably) the companys'
money obtaining the cert? I don't get it? Just to have letters after your
name that nobody recognises as meningful?
That's insane!
JaR
Incredulous Thug
| |
|
| "Gilly" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3CEBCB80-D727-4E91-BD39-D3DCB4CC3150@microsoft.com...
> Some stupid Manufactures' partnerships... really stupid stuff, beleive
it!...
>
>
Anybody from Microsoft reading this??? Hello??? Is this typical of all MS
"Partners"? Most? Some? What is the purpose of being an MS Partner again???
Ben Guterson? Tom Helms? Care to comment?
JaR
Curious Thug
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-28, 5:23 pm |
| >Anybody from Microsoft reading this??? Hello??? Is this typical of all MS
>"Partners"? Most? Some? What is the purpose of being an MS Partner again???
>Ben Guterson? Tom Helms? Care to comment?
Yeah right, as if anyone from microsoft gives a shit. It would appear
they encourage this approach, as can be seen by the luck interest in
stopping these 'scams'.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-28, 5:23 pm |
| Hey, dumbass: did *I* mention MS parterships???
----- JaR wrote: -----
What is the purpose of being an MS Partner again???
| |
| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-28, 5:23 pm |
| > I'd rather do it the other way, d*mn it!!!
> Is it so hard for you to understand that?
By "the other way", do you mean having MS have practical exams as opposed
to strictly multiple choice exams? Or by "the other way", do you mean you'd
rather study than cheat?
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
| |
|
| "Gilly" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E71505E-9D2A-4422-AAE3-702C28CDB71B@microsoft.com...
> Hey, dumbass: did *I* mention MS parterships???
>
>
OK, whose then? Lets ask them if that's what they intended. Do they want
people who know the product, or just "dumbasses" with lots of letters after
their names? Does Microsoft want their certs to be used in this way?
It would appear so!
| |
| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-28, 5:23 pm |
| >Does Microsoft want their certs to be used in this way?
>
>It would appear so!
Unfortunately....
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
| |
|
|
>-----Original Message-----
CCIE certified *ever* in Portugal.[color=blue]
>
>Does he sell time share apartments as well?
>
Microsoft/Cisco Systems skills he has, so...[color=blue]
>
>.... What.
>
>Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>.
>
You guys are all twats! You think you're better off
because you don't use Testkings - ha ha ha ha...! Self-
righteous idiots! get a life...
| |
|
|
>-----Original Message-----
MCSE/CCIE/whatever you are should[color=blue]
sheet. This means[color=blue]
will leave a bad taste[color=blue]
professionals. This ruins the[color=blue]
fact that, upon your[color=blue]
making it that[color=blue]
>
>As we saw here a few weeks back, people just don't
understand the
>situation, some don't even care. It would seem that this
type of
>'approach' for 'obtaining' cert's comes highly recommend
by a number
>of sites which operate today, so it's not surprising that
people don't
>see a problem in cheating their way through the process.
>
>Microsoft do nothing about this and is why I won't be
doing any more
>microsoft certs. I guess that's no big lose either way.
>
>Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>.
>
If you're not doing any more certs - bugger off from this
newsgroup!!! you must be real lonely - nothing else to do
but to read about other people getting their certs, then
whining because you think they're cheating. very sad...
get a hobby, then find a newsgroup that matches that
hobby... poor lad
| |
|
|
>-----Original Message-----
>
>By "the other way", do you mean having MS have practical
exams as opposed
>to strictly multiple choice exams? Or by "the other way",
do you mean you'd
>rather study than cheat?
>
>
>--
>
>KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
>first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
>.
>
I bet you that everyone here has read through a testking
at some stage - even all the finger-pointers who call
others cheaters
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>-----Original Message-----
>
>You're such a fscking piece of sh!t. You make me sick.
Why don't you learn
>the right way instead of cheating?
>
>--
>
>KB - MCNGP "disgusted thug" #26
>
>first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
>.
>
You guys are sooooo easy!
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| Sweething 2004-01-29, 5:23 am |
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>-----Original Message-----
>hey david, lighten up. he did not call him that, he
merely implied he would
>be one for cheating. kinda like you being one for trying
to snitch on
>someone. i remember you, you are the kid from third grade
who told on us
>then i kicked your XXX. still a punk, huh.
>
>
>"|{evin" <You@dont.need> wrote in message
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ooooh - big brave man in the newsgroup...! you wouldn't
even get a chance against me.
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-29, 6:23 am |
| So... just wondering: how many of you have University degrees?...
And btw, how many of you *actually* did your M$ certification only by having experience with the product?
Very few of you, I bet!...
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-29, 6:23 am |
| I'm pretty sure of that...
These guys are very afraid that some other MCSE will have their jobs...
----- David wrote: -----
I bet you that everyone here has read through a testking
at some stage - even all the finger-pointers who call
others cheaters
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| |{evin 2004-01-29, 9:23 am |
| On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:54:26 -0800, "Sweething"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>ooooh - big brave man in the newsgroup...! you wouldn't
>even get a chance against me.
Coming from someone with the name 'Sweething', using the anonymous CDO
interface, and lacking in the ability to write coherently. Right.
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| Consultant 2004-01-29, 11:23 am |
| i wouldn't get a chance against you? you may be right, you are the master of
reeling in gay men, i do not stand a chance against you.
"|{evin" <You@dont.need> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:54:26 -0800, "Sweething"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
> Coming from someone with the name 'Sweething', using the anonymous CDO
> interface, and lacking in the ability to write coherently. Right.
>
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-29, 11:23 am |
| With *your* crappy, liar, false moralist and finger-pointing bullsh*t!
----- Ken Briscoe wrote: -----
anyone else with what crappy bullsh*t?
--
KB - MCNGP "Tarot thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-29, 11:23 am |
| Just got myself (very well) promoted... how about it?
When are you gonna learn that the world is not fair?...
----- Ken Briscoe wrote: -----
> He didn't hire/promote me because of my MCSE certification. He knows
pretty well what I'm worth! And I had this job *before* I started my MCSE.
Maybe he didn't promote you because he knows you're a cheater.
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-29, 11:23 am |
| > With *your* crappy, liar, false moralist and finger-pointing bullsh*t!
Crappy? Fine, everyone has their opinion.
Liar? Think not. Never bought/downloaded/stole/read a braindump. That's my
story and I'm sticking to it.
False moralist? Hey, I'm not the greatest guy in the world. Never claimed
to be. I've done some "wrong" things before. I'm not the epitomy of
morality here. But, depsite what a few of my actions may say, I am a person
of morals and values, and cheating isn't on the list.
Finger-pointing bullshit? This should be split into 2 parts:
a) Finger-pointing. Yes, I am pointing the finger. At you. Cheater.
b) Bullshit. Much like "crappy", this is subjective. I do not believe my
opinions are bullshit, but if you do, good for you.
As for your other posts where you refer to "us" (those in this thread that
oppose your study habits) as "jealous"...think again. Not one of us is
jealous of you. You have a job. Congratulations. Your boss likes you.
Congratulations. You have your youth. Congratulations. You're a "cool guy".
Congratulations. You're a cheater. Fsck off.
--
KB - MCNGP "not-so-silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-29, 11:23 am |
| > Just got myself (very well) promoted... how about it?
> When are you gonna learn that the world is not fair?...
Oh I know the world's not fair. You are proof of that. Not that I envy your
position, because I'm quite happy with my current position.
So you're getting a few extra dollars in your paycheck every week - and the
price you pay is you have to live with the fact that you're scamming the
system for your own gain, and it's harming others. So it feels good that
people who know their stuff can't get a job because hiring managers can't
tell the difference between a dumper and a legitimate MCSE? You're stealing
jobs from deserving people, a-hole.
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-29, 12:23 pm |
| > Jealousy... "a-hole"! =P
> You shouldn't be jealous if you have (and I beleive you do - and I'm
happy for you) a good position.
I've made it clear that I am not jealous of you. I am content with my
current job. And thank you for your support in regards to my current job
situation, but I can't return the compliment, as I am not happy that you
did not earn your reward (your promotion).
--
KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| "David" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I bet you that everyone here has read through a testking
> at some stage - even all the finger-pointers who call
> others cheaters
And you would lose.
JaR
Finger-Pointing Thug
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|
| "Gilly" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm pretty sure of that...
>
> These guys are very afraid that some other MCSE will have their jobs...
>
LOL! Only if I thought you could actually _do_ my job.
JaR
Employed Thug
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|
| > I bet you that everyone here has read through a testking
> at some stage - even all the finger-pointers who call
> others cheaters
I never have.
Debating if the MSCE is an entry level cert is one thing; but
getting a copy of the test and studying that to pass can only
be considered cheating. I understand the temptation: who's
going to know and who gets hurt? Well, you are cheating
yourself and you are cheating your employer and you are
cheating those honest people who worked hard. If you use
br@indumps to supplement your study, then why? Do you
not have the confidence that you would pass without them?
I know that in the game of life time is money, get the cert now
and BS your way in, then get the experience. There may be
some that have done that and are now good techs. But lets
at least be honest about what br@indups are: cheating. If that
is OK with you then so be it, but don't insult the intelligence your
fellow newsgroupers by saying its not.
KP "not exactly MCNGP material" G
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| =?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| kpg wrote:
>
> KP "not exactly MCNGP material" G
Oh, I wouldn't count yourself out were I you. I've been noticing your posts
as of late, and I'd say you have potential.
--
Fris "Corduroy" beeŽ MCNGP #13
http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics
Certaholics - We're here if you're beyond help
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| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| >I bet you that everyone here has read through a testking
>at some stage
You've lost the bet, now hand over the $20,000.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| >LOL! Only if I thought you could actually _do_ my job.
Do you sell timeshare apartments as well?
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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|
| Whoa! Hold on a minute.
It recently become cool to not be an MCNGP.
I'm always drawn to the cool side.
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| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| >then whining because you think they're cheating. very sad...
No it's very true, that's why you're cert's (if you have any) are
worthless. Maybe you don't care, but some people do.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| "The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
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>
>
> Do you sell timeshare apartments as well?
>
No. Siding. On the side, that is.
JaR
Versatile Thug
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| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| >So... just wondering: how many of you have University degrees?...
>
>And btw, how many of you *actually* did your M$ certification only by having experience with the product?
>Very few of you, I bet!...
MSc in computer science,
Almost Twenty Two years experience in software engineering. Thus I
started out eleven years or so before Microsoft started their
certification program.
Twenty Four Microsoft exam passes (won't be adding to that total).
Plus a number of other exam's from other vendors.
Seen 'products' and technologies come and go and am quite able to keep
up with the pace without the need to cheat.
Oh and happy in my job too.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| Ken Briscoe 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| > Whoa! Hold on a minute.
>
> It recently become cool to not be an MCNGP.
>
> I'm always drawn to the cool side.
If peeing your pants is cool, you can call me Miles Davis!
--
KB - MCNGP "Billy Madison thug" #26
first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| How the h*ll can you tell if someone's certification is worthless?
Just because people braindump to pass exams? Just because their study methods are different from yours?
How can you tell if they are even better professionals than you?
I still can't see... you folks myst be visionaries!
As long as Microsoft's examination procedures are stupid, study/passing methods must be stupid also!
Well stop those stupid multiple choice questions that have little to do with daily situations!!!
Make labs! Make full practical exams, in a real network full of servers, routers, switches, etc.!
Shall that day come, I will surely agree with all you (may I call it) "purists"!!!
Otherways... my humble opinion will not be changed.
----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
No it's very true, that's why you're cert's (if you have any) are
worthless. Maybe you don't care, but some people do.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| >Well, you are cheating
>yourself and you are cheating your employer and you are
>cheating those honest people who worked hard.
I can't honestly see how any employer could be fooled into letting
anybody through the door without first determining how good they are.
Surely such companies don't exist (anymore)?
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| >How the h*ll can you tell if someone's certification is worthless?
>Just because people braindump to pass exams? Just because their study methods are different from yours?
>How can you tell if they are even better professionals than you?
>I still can't see... you folks myst be visionaries!
It's how employers and their client's see the value of cert's that
counts. Why on Earth would any employer give any regard to a
certification that can be 'bought' (or stolen) by someone who does not
understand the subject area?
If a certification proves nothing of one's ability, it's worthless.
>As long as Microsoft's examination procedures are stupid, study/passing methods must be stupid also!
>Well stop those stupid multiple choice questions that have little to do with daily situations!!!
>Make labs! Make full practical exams, in a real network full of servers, routers, switches, etc.!
I agree.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| Consultant 2004-01-29, 2:23 pm |
| hi miles
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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>
> If peeing your pants is cool, you can call me Miles Davis!
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "Billy Madison thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
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|
"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com> wrote in message
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>
> If peeing your pants is cool, you can call me Miles Davis!
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "Billy Madison thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
I don't get it.
KP "Sometimes I feel like an idiot. But I am an idiot, so it kinda works
out" G
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| <10 min later>
Oh, wait, I get it now.
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| |{evin 2004-01-29, 8:23 pm |
| On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:26:56 -0800, "Consultant"
< consultant_mcngp_removepants@y
ahoo.com> wrote:
>i wouldn't get a chance against you? you may be right, you are the master of
>reeling in gay men, i do not stand a chance against you.
>
>
Excuse you?
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-30, 6:23 am |
| That's it. I think you got my point.
;-)
----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
>As long as Microsoft's examination procedures are stupid, study/passing methods must be stupid also!
>Well stop those stupid multiple choice questions that have little to do with daily situations!!!
>Make labs! Make full practical exams, in a real network full of servers, routers, switches, etc.!
I agree.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-30, 7:23 am |
| That's it. I think you got my point.
;-)
----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
>As long as Microsoft's examination procedures are stupid, study/passing methods must be stupid also!
>Well stop those stupid multiple choice questions that have little to do with daily situations!!!
>Make labs! Make full practical exams, in a real network full of servers, routers, switches, etc.!
I agree.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-30, 7:23 am |
| That's it. I think you got my point.
;-)
----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
>As long as Microsoft's examination procedures are stupid, study/passing methods must be stupid also!
>Well stop those stupid multiple choice questions that have little to do with daily situations!!!
>Make labs! Make full practical exams, in a real network full of servers, routers, switches, etc.!
I agree.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-30, 7:23 am |
| That's it. I think you got my point.
;-)
----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
>As long as Microsoft's examination procedures are stupid, study/passing methods must be stupid also!
>Well stop those stupid multiple choice questions that have little to do with daily situations!!!
>Make labs! Make full practical exams, in a real network full of servers, routers, switches, etc.!
I agree.
Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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| Politician Spock 2004-01-30, 9:23 am |
| Yes, I got it..... FOUR TIMES!
--
Politician Spock
Thug #24601
"Gilly" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> That's it. I think you got my point.
> ;-)
>
> ----- The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher wrote: -----
>
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do with daily situations!!![color=blue]
servers, routers, switches, etc.![color=blue]
>
> I agree.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>
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| Consultant 2004-01-30, 11:23 am |
| basically, i was calling him a queer
"|{evin" <You@dont.need> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:26:56 -0800, "Consultant"
> < consultant_mcngp_removepants@y
ahoo.com> wrote:
>
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> Excuse you?
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| Politician Spock 2004-01-30, 12:23 pm |
| "Consultant" < consultant_mcngp_removepants@y
ahoo.com> wrote in message
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> basically, i was calling him a queer
>
These days it's hip to be queer. Using Chalk's term on David may get David a
new hit TV show.
--
Politician Spock
Thug #24601
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| =?Utf-8?B?R2lsbHk=?= 2004-01-30, 2:23 pm |
| Yeah...hehehe...
ISP sux...
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| |{evin 2004-01-30, 10:23 pm |
| On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:01:05 -0800, "Consultant"
< consultant_mcngp_removepants@y
ahoo.com> wrote:
>basically, i was calling him a queer
>
ah... I was wondering.. you replied to ME.
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