microsoft.public.cert.exams.mcse - Can any of you help me?

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Can any of you help me?

David Maggard

2003-08-05, 2:23 pm

Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really desperate.

I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job in
February.
A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant (1099)
sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was told that
they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although they
say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if they
are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I was
barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I live in
a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
locally.
I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self replicating
websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
I have intermediate windows networking skills.
A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs but
haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam fees.
I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as well.

I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some for me,
preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my mother who
has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence here.

Please someone out there help me!

David Maggard

David Maggard

2003-08-05, 2:23 pm

Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while I was
studying for MCSE, that would help to.

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
desperate.
>
> I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job in
> February.
> A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant (1099)
> sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was told
that
> they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
they
> say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if they
> are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I was
> barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I live
in
> a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> locally.
> I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self replicating
> websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs but
> haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam fees.
> I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as well.
>
> I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some for
me,
> preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my mother
who
> has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence here.
>
> Please someone out there help me!
>
> David Maggard
>
>
>
>
>

Consultant

2003-08-05, 2:23 pm

not to make light of your situation, but take the money you have, go to
vegas and play the blackjack table!

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
desperate.
>
> I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job in
> February.
> A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant (1099)
> sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was told
that
> they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
they
> say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if they
> are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I was
> barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I live
in
> a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> locally.
> I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self replicating
> websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs but
> haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam fees.
> I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as well.
>
> I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some for
me,
> preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my mother
who
> has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence here.
>
> Please someone out there help me!
>
> David Maggard
>
>
>
>
>

David Maggard

2003-08-05, 2:23 pm

I don't think that you can do much in vegas with $50, and thats about all I
got left.

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23RpM0f3WDHA.2080@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> not to make light of your situation, but take the money you have, go to
> vegas and play the blackjack table!
>
> "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> desperate.
> >
> > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job
in
> > February.
> > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant (1099)
> > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was told
> that
> > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
> they
> > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if
they
> > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I
was
> > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I live
> in
> > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> > locally.
> > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
replicating
> > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs but
> > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam
fees.
> > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as well.
> >
> > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some for
> me,
> > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my mother
> who
> > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence here.
> >
> > Please someone out there help me!
> >
> > David Maggard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Consultant

2003-08-05, 2:23 pm

play the slots?
get a lap dance?

you can always sale your sperm!

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vivqujn07hoe8e@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't think that you can do much in vegas with $50, and thats about all
I
> got left.
>
>
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23RpM0f3WDHA.2080@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > not to make light of your situation, but take the money you have, go to
> > vegas and play the blackjack table!
> >
> > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> > desperate.
> > >
> > > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job
> in

> > > February.
> > > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant
(1099)
> > > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was
told
> > that
> > > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
> > they
> > > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if
> they
> > > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I
> was
> > > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I
live
> > in
> > > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> > > locally.
> > > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> > > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
> replicating[color
=darkred]
> > > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs[/color]
but[c
olor=darkred]
> > > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam
> fees.
> > > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as[/color]
well. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some[/color]
for
> > me,
> > > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my
mother
> > who
> > > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence
here. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > > Please someone out there help me!
> > >
> > > David Maggard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

=?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?=

2003-08-05, 3:23 pm

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while I was
> studying for MCSE, that would help to.

I wish I could offer you some help, David. You seem like a nice enough guy.

All I can do is wish you well.

Shirley someone with all your talents should be able to find some work
somewhere... look into contract work on the web. There are dozens of
contract sites out there.

--
Fris "And don't call me Shirley" bee® MCNGP #13

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

Clint Kennedy

2003-08-05, 3:23 pm

I'm a hiring manager in the Las Vegas area and just recently recruited
someone with your skills and he's turning out great. Had you posted this
message about 3 weeks ago I probably could have helped ya. :-\

The LV area isn't the best to find work unless you know AS400s you can work
for the casinos and get paid a lot.

Clint

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
desperate.
>
> I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job in
> February.
> A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant (1099)
> sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was told
that
> they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
they
> say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if they
> are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I was
> barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I live
in
> a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> locally.
> I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self replicating
> websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs but
> haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam fees.
> I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as well.
>
> I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some for
me,
> preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my mother
who
> has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence here.
>
> Please someone out there help me!
>
> David Maggard
>
>
>
>
>

Davin Mickelson

2003-08-05, 3:23 pm

Hi, David.
I respect your need to care for your family. That's great. Family should
always comes first, IMHO.

A couple of thoughts - if you are a web developer/DB Administrator, why are
you considering becoming certified as an MCSE? Have you considered becoming
an MCSD? I mean no insult to the members of this group (some will take
insult anyway - that's okay), but MCSEs are becoming as popular as Ford
Tauruses in the US. If you don't have one yourself, you know someone else
who does. I don't know of any unemployed MCSDs/MCADs. However, MCSEs have a
tougher time of landing a job.

Your skill set shows me that your definitely ready to learn and work with
VB.NET. Get the count of the different types of certified folks here:
http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/certified.asp

You can earn an MCAD certification in VB.NET with three exams (vs. MCSE's
seven exams).

If you perform a search on http://www.dice.com, you'll find no CF jobs in
Nevada, however, here's what I found with .NET:
ASP.NET Developer - Eastridge Infotech Las Vegas, NV (8-1-2003)
..Net Software Developers - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
(7-22-2003)
..Net Software Architect - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
(7-22-2003)
..Net Software Test Engineer - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
(7-22-2003)
VB.net Software Engineer - Eastridge Infotech Reno, NV (8-5-2003)
C# Apps Developer - Equities Trading - Eric Robert Associates New York, NV
(8-1-2003)
Programmer - Legacy Solutions Reno, NV (8-1-2003)
Network Administrator - Vecor, Inc Elko, NV (8-4-2003)

Hey - there's an MCSE job on the end!

Good luck to you. Skip using expensive books when you study - use MSDN and
Transcender practice exams. You sound like you have great programming skills
that should put toward SW development.

This information is based purely on my opinions and you can take it or leave
it.

Sincerely,
Davin Mickelson
MCP+SiteBuilding, MCSD(VS6), MCSD.NET

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while I was
> studying for MCSE, that would help to.
>
>
>
> "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> desperate.
> >
> > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job
in
> > February.
> > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant (1099)
> > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was told
> that
> > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
> they
> > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if
they
> > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I
was
> > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I live
> in
> > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> > locally.
> > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
replicating
> > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs but
> > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam
fees.
> > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as well.
> >
> > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some for
> me,
> > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my mother
> who
> > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence here.
> >
> > Please someone out there help me!
> >
> > David Maggard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Consultant

2003-08-05, 4:24 pm

Xref: intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse:94044

that is not an insult, it is the truth.

personally, mcse is just one of the certs i hold, i am a sr network engineer
by title, but am not limited to an MS only skillset.

"Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u0b0EO4WDHA.608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi, David.
> I respect your need to care for your family. That's great. Family should
> always comes first, IMHO.
>
> A couple of thoughts - if you are a web developer/DB Administrator, why
are
> you considering becoming certified as an MCSE? Have you considered
becoming
> an MCSD? I mean no insult to the members of this group (some will take
> insult anyway - that's okay), but MCSEs are becoming as popular as Ford
> Tauruses in the US. If you don't have one yourself, you know someone else
> who does. I don't know of any unemployed MCSDs/MCADs. However, MCSEs have
a
> tougher time of landing a job.
>
> Your skill set shows me that your definitely ready to learn and work with
> VB.NET. Get the count of the different types of certified folks here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/certified.asp
>
> You can earn an MCAD certification in VB.NET with three exams (vs. MCSE's
> seven exams).
>
> If you perform a search on http://www.dice.com, you'll find no CF jobs in
> Nevada, however, here's what I found with .NET:
> ASP.NET Developer - Eastridge Infotech Las Vegas, NV (8-1-2003)
> .Net Software Developers - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> (7-22-2003)
> .Net Software Architect - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> (7-22-2003)
> .Net Software Test Engineer - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> (7-22-2003)
> VB.net Software Engineer - Eastridge Infotech Reno, NV (8-5-2003)
> C# Apps Developer - Equities Trading - Eric Robert Associates New York, NV
> (8-1-2003)
> Programmer - Legacy Solutions Reno, NV (8-1-2003)
> Network Administrator - Vecor, Inc Elko, NV (8-4-2003)
>
> Hey - there's an MCSE job on the end!
>
> Good luck to you. Skip using expensive books when you study - use MSDN and
> Transcender practice exams. You sound like you have great programming
skills
> that should put toward SW development.
>
> This information is based purely on my opinions and you can take it or
leave
> it.
>
> Sincerely,
> Davin Mickelson
> MCP+SiteBuilding, MCSD(VS6), MCSD.NET
>
>
>
> "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> > Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while I was
> > studying for MCSE, that would help to.
> >
> >
> >
> > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> > desperate.
> > >
> > > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job
> in

> > > February.
> > > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant
(1099)
> > > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was
told
> > that
> > > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
> > they
> > > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if
> they
> > > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I
> was
> > > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I
live
> > in
> > > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> > > locally.
> > > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> > > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
> replicating[color
=darkred]
> > > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs[/color]
but[c
olor=darkred]
> > > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam
> fees.
> > > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as[/color]
well. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some[/color]
for
> > me,
> > > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my
mother
> > who
> > > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence
here. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > > Please someone out there help me!
> > >
> > > David Maggard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

David Maggard

2003-08-05, 4:24 pm

I really do understand your question, In the area I live most companies
aren't big enough to need or afford a server admin, a graphic designer, a
database admin, and a web site programmer. Most want a swiss army IT
worker, and while I can do all but the graphics fairly well, if I was
certified for MCSE and MCDBA as well as experienced, It would give me and
edge over other applicants, and since there are so few jobs in the area I am
hoping that it will help me get a more stable job. I feel that doing mcse
will help me hone my skills as well as give me something to show to local
employers.
An no offence, but I have always found VB to be an ugly language lacking C++
& javascripts simply beauty, I find C type syntax easier to read.
My impression of MCSD was it was geared more towards application
programming, which I really haven't done much of since High School, and not
web programming which is where my strength lies.

"Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u0b0EO4WDHA.608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi, David.
> I respect your need to care for your family. That's great. Family should
> always comes first, IMHO.
>
> A couple of thoughts - if you are a web developer/DB Administrator, why
are
> you considering becoming certified as an MCSE? Have you considered
becoming
> an MCSD? I mean no insult to the members of this group (some will take
> insult anyway - that's okay), but MCSEs are becoming as popular as Ford
> Tauruses in the US. If you don't have one yourself, you know someone else
> who does. I don't know of any unemployed MCSDs/MCADs. However, MCSEs have
a
> tougher time of landing a job.
>
> Your skill set shows me that your definitely ready to learn and work with
> VB.NET. Get the count of the different types of certified folks here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/certified.asp
>
> You can earn an MCAD certification in VB.NET with three exams (vs. MCSE's
> seven exams).
>
> If you perform a search on http://www.dice.com, you'll find no CF jobs in
> Nevada, however, here's what I found with .NET:
> ASP.NET Developer - Eastridge Infotech Las Vegas, NV (8-1-2003)
> .Net Software Developers - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> (7-22-2003)
> .Net Software Architect - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> (7-22-2003)
> .Net Software Test Engineer - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> (7-22-2003)
> VB.net Software Engineer - Eastridge Infotech Reno, NV (8-5-2003)
> C# Apps Developer - Equities Trading - Eric Robert Associates New York, NV
> (8-1-2003)
> Programmer - Legacy Solutions Reno, NV (8-1-2003)
> Network Administrator - Vecor, Inc Elko, NV (8-4-2003)
>
> Hey - there's an MCSE job on the end!
>
> Good luck to you. Skip using expensive books when you study - use MSDN and
> Transcender practice exams. You sound like you have great programming
skills
> that should put toward SW development.
>
> This information is based purely on my opinions and you can take it or
leave
> it.
>
> Sincerely,
> Davin Mickelson
> MCP+SiteBuilding, MCSD(VS6), MCSD.NET
>
>
>
> "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> > Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while I was
> > studying for MCSE, that would help to.
> >
> >
> >
> > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> > desperate.
> > >
> > > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my job
> in

> > > February.
> > > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant
(1099)
> > > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was
told
> > that
> > > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and although
> > they
> > > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that if
> they
> > > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long. I
> was
> > > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I
live
> > in
> > > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> > > locally.
> > > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> > > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
> replicating[color
=darkred]
> > > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs[/color]
but[c
olor=darkred]
> > > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam
> fees.
> > > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as[/color]
well. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some[/color]
for
> > me,
> > > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my
mother
> > who
> > > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence
here. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > > Please someone out there help me!
> > >
> > > David Maggard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

=?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?=

2003-08-05, 4:24 pm

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:eKYsiy4WDHA.3232@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> An no offence, but I have always found VB to be an ugly language lacking
C++
> & javascripts simply beauty, I find C type syntax easier to read.

Offense taken.

> My impression of MCSD was it was geared more towards application
> programming, which I really haven't done much of since High School, and
not
> web programming which is where my strength lies.

This explains your above opinion.

It's not the language, it's the programmer.

--
Fris "C--" bee® MCNGP #13

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

KLXrider

2003-08-05, 5:23 pm

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:23:02 -0700, "Clint Kennedy"
<clint_kennedy@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The LV area isn't the best to find work unless you know AS400s you can work
>for the casinos and get paid a lot.

How much is a lot? All of the contracting gig's I have done in Vegas
were for the government, so I was wondering how much they get paid at
the casinos.

KLXrider, MCNGP #18

Consultant

2003-08-05, 5:23 pm

28k a year baby, oh yeah

"KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
news:eb40jv0t08hajah29nfohfh06
hdvitufac@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:23:02 -0700, "Clint Kennedy"
> <clint_kennedy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The LV area isn't the best to find work unless you know AS400s you can
work
> >for the casinos and get paid a lot.
>
> How much is a lot? All of the contracting gig's I have done in Vegas
> were for the government, so I was wondering how much they get paid at
> the casinos.
>
> KLXrider, MCNGP #18

Davin Mickelson

2003-08-05, 5:23 pm

I am currently an MCSA (two exams shy of MCSE) and have yet to see an exam
question on web development. However, when I passed the C# exams
(particularly the web development exam), I came across JavaScript questions.

I wrongly assumed VB.NET would be a better fit because of your experience
in:
ASP (usually programmed in VBScript - perhaps you're a JScript developer)
VBA (Visual Basic for Applications - usually applied to Office development)
Access - a VBA application

You know, with VB.NET (or any of the other 30+ .NET languages), we now have
all four pillars of OOP and true multithreaded programming with garbage
collection (automatic memory clean up). Perhaps C# or JScript.NET is right
up your alley - syntactically the same as Java. By the way - all three
languages are free to download from Microsoft in the .NET SDK.

However, it seems as though you have your mind set and I respect that.
Good luck on your quest for MCSE.

Davin Mickelson

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:eKYsiy4WDHA.3232@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I really do understand your question, In the area I live most companies
> aren't big enough to need or afford a server admin, a graphic designer, a
> database admin, and a web site programmer. Most want a swiss army IT
> worker, and while I can do all but the graphics fairly well, if I was
> certified for MCSE and MCDBA as well as experienced, It would give me and
> edge over other applicants, and since there are so few jobs in the area I
am
> hoping that it will help me get a more stable job. I feel that doing mcse
> will help me hone my skills as well as give me something to show to local
> employers.
> An no offence, but I have always found VB to be an ugly language lacking
C++
> & javascripts simply beauty, I find C type syntax easier to read.
> My impression of MCSD was it was geared more towards application
> programming, which I really haven't done much of since High School, and
not
> web programming which is where my strength lies.
>
>
> "Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u0b0EO4WDHA.608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi, David.
> > I respect your need to care for your family. That's great. Family should
> > always comes first, IMHO.
> >
> > A couple of thoughts - if you are a web developer/DB Administrator, why
> are
> > you considering becoming certified as an MCSE? Have you considered
> becoming
> > an MCSD? I mean no insult to the members of this group (some will take
> > insult anyway - that's okay), but MCSEs are becoming as popular as Ford
> > Tauruses in the US. If you don't have one yourself, you know someone
else
> > who does. I don't know of any unemployed MCSDs/MCADs. However, MCSEs
have
> a
> > tougher time of landing a job.
> >
> > Your skill set shows me that your definitely ready to learn and work
with
> > VB.NET. Get the count of the different types of certified folks here:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/certified.asp
> >
> > You can earn an MCAD certification in VB.NET with three exams (vs.
MCSE's
> > seven exams).
> >
> > If you perform a search on http://www.dice.com, you'll find no CF jobs
in
> > Nevada, however, here's what I found with .NET:
> > ASP.NET Developer - Eastridge Infotech Las Vegas, NV (8-1-2003)
> > .Net Software Developers - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > (7-22-2003)
> > .Net Software Architect - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > (7-22-2003)
> > .Net Software Test Engineer - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > (7-22-2003)
> > VB.net Software Engineer - Eastridge Infotech Reno, NV (8-5-2003)
> > C# Apps Developer - Equities Trading - Eric Robert Associates New York,
NV
> > (8-1-2003)
> > Programmer - Legacy Solutions Reno, NV (8-1-2003)
> > Network Administrator - Vecor, Inc Elko, NV (8-4-2003)
> >
> > Hey - there's an MCSE job on the end!
> >
> > Good luck to you. Skip using expensive books when you study - use MSDN
and
> > Transcender practice exams. You sound like you have great programming
> skills
> > that should put toward SW development.
> >
> > This information is based purely on my opinions and you can take it or
> leave
> > it.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Davin Mickelson
> > MCP+SiteBuilding, MCSD(VS6), MCSD.NET
> >
> >
> >
> > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while I
was[c
olor=darkred]
> > > studying for MCSE, that would help to.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> > > desperate.
> > > >
> > > > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my[/color]
job
> > in
> > > > February.
> > > > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant
> (1099)
> > > > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > > > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was
> told
> > > that
> > > > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and
although
> > > they
> > > > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that
if
> > they
> > > > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for long.
I
> > was
> > > > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me. I
> live
> > > in
> > > > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT work
> > > > locally.
> > > > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly in
> > > > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
> > replicating
> > > > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > > > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > > > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > > > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > > > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > > > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and MCDBAs
> but
> > > > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the exam
> > fees.
> > > > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as
> well.
> > > >
> > > > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of some
> for
> > > me,
> > > > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > > > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my
> mother
> > > who
> > > > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence
> here.
> > > >
> > > > Please someone out there help me!
> > > >
> > > > David Maggard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

David Maggard

2003-08-05, 5:23 pm

Yes I perfer jscript ASP, but have done some VB, including some VBA, I can
do VB, just don't like to.
Thats why theres chocolate and vanilla.

I prefer CF to ASP tho, faster development, although I have been wanting to
learn C#.

I personally love to learn new things, but dislike doing it on a job if I
can do it a way I already know, due to the fact of the time involved in
learning it, I always advise clients on what I have experience in, if a
client wants it done a different way, good for me.
The company I have been working for was looking at doing their web based
stuff in ASP.NET, but when we discussed that I would have to learn it, they
opted to buy CF Server and save time.

"Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23abo4G5WDHA.656@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I am currently an MCSA (two exams shy of MCSE) and have yet to see an exam
> question on web development. However, when I passed the C# exams
> (particularly the web development exam), I came across JavaScript
questions.
>
> I wrongly assumed VB.NET would be a better fit because of your experience
> in:
> ASP (usually programmed in VBScript - perhaps you're a JScript developer)
> VBA (Visual Basic for Applications - usually applied to Office
development)
> Access - a VBA application
>
> You know, with VB.NET (or any of the other 30+ .NET languages), we now
have
> all four pillars of OOP and true multithreaded programming with garbage
> collection (automatic memory clean up). Perhaps C# or JScript.NET is right
> up your alley - syntactically the same as Java. By the way - all three
> languages are free to download from Microsoft in the .NET SDK.
>
> However, it seems as though you have your mind set and I respect that.
> Good luck on your quest for MCSE.
>
> Davin Mickelson
>
> "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:eKYsiy4WDHA.3232@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I really do understand your question, In the area I live most companies
> > aren't big enough to need or afford a server admin, a graphic designer,
a
> > database admin, and a web site programmer. Most want a swiss army IT
> > worker, and while I can do all but the graphics fairly well, if I was
> > certified for MCSE and MCDBA as well as experienced, It would give me
and
> > edge over other applicants, and since there are so few jobs in the area
I
> am
> > hoping that it will help me get a more stable job. I feel that doing
mcse
> > will help me hone my skills as well as give me something to show to
local

> > employers.
> > An no offence, but I have always found VB to be an ugly language lacking
> C++
> > & javascripts simply beauty, I find C type syntax easier to read.
> > My impression of MCSD was it was geared more towards application
> > programming, which I really haven't done much of since High School, and
> not
> > web programming which is where my strength lies.
> >
> >
> > "Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:u0b0EO4WDHA.608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi, David.
> > > I respect your need to care for your family. That's great. Family
should
> > > always comes first, IMHO.
> > >
> > > A couple of thoughts - if you are a web developer/DB Administrator,
why
> > are
> > > you considering becoming certified as an MCSE? Have you considered
> > becoming
> > > an MCSD? I mean no insult to the members of this group (some will take
> > > insult anyway - that's okay), but MCSEs are becoming as popular as
Ford[
color=darkred]
> > > Tauruses in the US. If you don't have one yourself, you know someone
> else
> > > who does. I don't know of any unemployed MCSDs/MCADs. However, MCSEs
> have
> > a
> > > tougher time of landing a job.
> > >
> > > Your skill set shows me that your definitely ready to learn and work
> with
> > > VB.NET. Get the count of the different types of certified folks here:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/certified.asp
> > >
> > > You can earn an MCAD certification in VB.NET with three exams (vs.
> MCSE's
> > > seven exams).
> > >
> > > If you perform a search on http://www.dice.com, you'll find no CF jobs
> in

> > > Nevada, however, here's what I found with .NET:
> > > ASP.NET Developer - Eastridge Infotech Las Vegas, NV (8-1-2003)
> > > .Net Software Developers - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > > (7-22-2003)
> > > .Net Software Architect - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > > (7-22-2003)
> > > .Net Software Test Engineer - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > > (7-22-2003)
> > > VB.net Software Engineer - Eastridge Infotech Reno, NV (8-5-2003)
> > > C# Apps Developer - Equities Trading - Eric Robert Associates New[/color]
York,
> NV

> > > (8-1-2003)
> > > Programmer - Legacy Solutions Reno, NV (8-1-2003)
> > > Network Administrator - Vecor, Inc Elko, NV (8-4-2003)
> > >
> > > Hey - there's an MCSE job on the end!
> > >
> > > Good luck to you. Skip using expensive books when you study - use MSDN
> and
> > > Transcender practice exams. You sound like you have great programming
> > skills
> > > that should put toward SW development.
> > >
> > > This information is based purely on my opinions and you can take it or
> > leave
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Davin Mickelson
> > > MCP+SiteBuilding, MCSD(VS6), MCSD.NET
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while I
> was
> > > > studying for MCSE, that would help to.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> > > > desperate.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost my
> job
> > > in
> > > > > February.
> > > > > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant
> > (1099)
> > > > > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > > > > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I was
> > told
> > > > that
> > > > > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and
> although
> > > > they
> > > > > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry that
> if

> > > they
> > > > > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for
long.
> I
> > > was
> > > > > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying me.
I
> > live
> > > > in
> > > > > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT
work[
color=darkred]
> > > > > locally.
> > > > > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly[/color]
in[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
> > > replicating
> > > > > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > > > > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > > > > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > > > > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > > > > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > > > > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and[/color]
MCDBAs
> > but
> > > > > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the
exam[
color=darkred]
> > > fees.
> > > > > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP as
> > well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of[/color]
some
> > for
> > > > me,
> > > > > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > > > > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting my
> > mother
> > > > who
> > > > > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family presence
> > here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please someone out there help me!
> > > > >
> > > > > David Maggard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

KLXrider

2003-08-05, 6:23 pm

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:35:39 -0700, "Consultant"
<consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:

>28k a year baby, oh yeah

now, now lets give him the benefit of the doubt. That would barely
pay my annual mortgage cost.

My cut is about 60/hr when I do consulting work over there, so I am
curious. I could get a whole lot of house if I sold mine in LA and
moved to Vegas, plus no state tax. I'm willing to pay high (still
lower then LA) sales tax and about the same property tax for a small
cut in pay so I don't have to deal with the California governement
anymore.

KLXrider, MCNGP #18

Consultant

2003-08-05, 6:23 pm

i hear ya there. i say we make las vegas the official home of the mcngp and
we can have our annual get togethers there!

all those lovely showgirls!

"KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
news

Andy Foster

2003-08-05, 6:23 pm

Maestro

2003-08-05, 6:23 pm

The problem is that with the number of Californians going
up there, it's getting to be just as bad as CA. Besides,
hopefully the Govt issue will be taken care of in a couple
of months.

>-----Original Message-----
>i hear ya there. i say we make las vegas the official
home of the mcngp and
>we can have our annual get togethers there!
>
>all those lovely showgirls!
>
>"KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
> news

l70jvcvihenrooe7i251jd5n
j5hjf50b7@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:35:39 -0700, "Consultant"
>> <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >28k a year baby, oh yeah
>>
>> now, now lets give him the benefit of the doubt. That
would barely
>> pay my annual mortgage cost.
>>
>> My cut is about 60/hr when I do consulting work over
there, so I am
>> curious. I could get a whole lot of house if I sold
mine in LA and
>> moved to Vegas, plus no state tax. I'm willing to pay
high (still
>> lower then LA) sales tax and about the same property
tax for a small

>> cut in pay so I don't have to deal with the California
governement
>> anymore.
>>
>> KLXrider, MCNGP #18
>
>
>.
>

JaR

2003-08-05, 7:23 pm

"Maestro" <maestro@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:036d01c35b9e$c384b340$a50
1280a@phx.gbl...

> hopefully the Govt issue will be taken care of in a couple
> of months.
>

Somehow I doubt that .ca.gov's woes are gonna be cured by just recalling
Gray Davis.

Or by the results of one election for that matter.

J.R. Jones

*besides, then what would my .wa.gov model it's self after?*

KLXrider

2003-08-05, 7:23 pm

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:13:13 -0700, "Maestro" <maestro@nothere.com>
wrote:

>hopefully the Govt issue will be taken care of in a couple
>of months

They would have to blow up all of Sactown and half of LA to fix the
California governement.

KLXrider, MCNGP #18

Gary - US

2003-08-05, 11:23 pm

Hell yes!

--

Semper Fi & God Bless America,

Gary-US MCNGP #20 & retired Jarhead

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
** Kindly Do The Needful **

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uV3Qek5WDHA.1580@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> i hear ya there. i say we make las vegas the official home of the mcngp
and
> we can have our annual get togethers there!
>
> all those lovely showgirls!
>
> "KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
> news

l70jvcvihenrooe7i251jd5n
j5hjf50b7@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:35:39 -0700, "Consultant"
> > <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >28k a year baby, oh yeah
> >
> > now, now lets give him the benefit of the doubt. That would barely
> > pay my annual mortgage cost.
> >
> > My cut is about 60/hr when I do consulting work over there, so I am
> > curious. I could get a whole lot of house if I sold mine in LA and
> > moved to Vegas, plus no state tax. I'm willing to pay high (still
> > lower then LA) sales tax and about the same property tax for a small
> > cut in pay so I don't have to deal with the California governement
> > anymore.
> >
> > KLXrider, MCNGP #18
>
>

billyw

2003-08-06, 4:23 am

david have you worked with flash before?

"David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vj06ab8dr9f4b0@corp.supernews.com...
> Yes I perfer jscript ASP, but have done some VB, including some VBA, I can
> do VB, just don't like to.
> Thats why theres chocolate and vanilla.
>
> I prefer CF to ASP tho, faster development, although I have been wanting
to
> learn C#.
>
> I personally love to learn new things, but dislike doing it on a job if I
> can do it a way I already know, due to the fact of the time involved in
> learning it, I always advise clients on what I have experience in, if a
> client wants it done a different way, good for me.
> The company I have been working for was looking at doing their web based
> stuff in ASP.NET, but when we discussed that I would have to learn it,
they
> opted to buy CF Server and save time.
>
>
> "Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23abo4G5WDHA.656@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I am currently an MCSA (two exams shy of MCSE) and have yet to see an
exam
> > question on web development. However, when I passed the C# exams
> > (particularly the web development exam), I came across JavaScript
> questions.
> >
> > I wrongly assumed VB.NET would be a better fit because of your
experience
> > in:
> > ASP (usually programmed in VBScript - perhaps you're a JScript
developer)
> > VBA (Visual Basic for Applications - usually applied to Office
> development)
> > Access - a VBA application
> >
> > You know, with VB.NET (or any of the other 30+ .NET languages), we now
> have
> > all four pillars of OOP and true multithreaded programming with garbage
> > collection (automatic memory clean up). Perhaps C# or JScript.NET is
right

> > up your alley - syntactically the same as Java. By the way - all three
> > languages are free to download from Microsoft in the .NET SDK.
> >
> > However, it seems as though you have your mind set and I respect that.
> > Good luck on your quest for MCSE.
> >
> > Davin Mickelson
> >
> > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:eKYsiy4WDHA.3232@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > I really do understand your question, In the area I live most
companies
> > > aren't big enough to need or afford a server admin, a graphic
designer,
> a
> > > database admin, and a web site programmer. Most want a swiss army IT
> > > worker, and while I can do all but the graphics fairly well, if I was
> > > certified for MCSE and MCDBA as well as experienced, It would give me
> and
> > > edge over other applicants, and since there are so few jobs in the
area
> I
> > am
> > > hoping that it will help me get a more stable job. I feel that doing
> mcse
> > > will help me hone my skills as well as give me something to show to
> local
> > > employers.
> > > An no offence, but I have always found VB to be an ugly language
lacking
> > C++
> > > & javascripts simply beauty, I find C type syntax easier to read.
> > > My impression of MCSD was it was geared more towards application
> > > programming, which I really haven't done much of since High School,
and
> > not
> > > web programming which is where my strength lies.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:u0b0EO4WDHA.608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi, David.
> > > > I respect your need to care for your family. That's great. Family
> should
> > > > always comes first, IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > A couple of thoughts - if you are a web developer/DB Administrator,
> why
> > > are
> > > > you considering becoming certified as an MCSE? Have you considered
> > > becoming
> > > > an MCSD? I mean no insult to the members of this group (some will
take[
color=darkred]
> > > > insult anyway - that's okay), but MCSEs are becoming as popular as
> Ford
> > > > Tauruses in the US. If you don't have one yourself, you know someone
> > else
> > > > who does. I don't know of any unemployed MCSDs/MCADs. However, MCSEs
> > have
> > > a
> > > > tougher time of landing a job.
> > > >
> > > > Your skill set shows me that your definitely ready to learn and work
> > with
> > > > VB.NET. Get the count of the different types of certified folks[/color]
here:

> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/certified.asp
> > > >
> > > > You can earn an MCAD certification in VB.NET with three exams (vs.
> > MCSE's
> > > > seven exams).
> > > >
> > > > If you perform a search on http://www.dice.com, you'll find no CF
jobs
> > in
> > > > Nevada, however, here's what I found with .NET:
> > > > ASP.NET Developer - Eastridge Infotech Las Vegas, NV (8-1-2003)
> > > > .Net Software Developers - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > > > (7-22-2003)
> > > > .Net Software Architect - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > > > (7-22-2003)
> > > > .Net Software Test Engineer - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas,
NV[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > (7-22-2003)
> > > > VB.net Software Engineer - Eastridge Infotech Reno, NV (8-5-2003)
> > > > C# Apps Developer - Equities Trading - Eric Robert Associates New
> York,
> > NV
> > > > (8-1-2003)
> > > > Programmer - Legacy Solutions Reno, NV (8-1-2003)
> > > > Network Administrator - Vecor, Inc Elko, NV (8-4-2003)
> > > >
> > > > Hey - there's an MCSE job on the end!
> > > >
> > > > Good luck to you. Skip using expensive books when you study - use[/color]
MSDN
> > and
> > > > Transcender practice exams. You sound like you have great
programming
> > > skills
> > > > that should put toward SW development.
> > > >
> > > > This information is based purely on my opinions and you can take it
or[co
lor=darkred]
> > > leave
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Davin Mickelson
> > > > MCP+SiteBuilding, MCSD(VS6), MCSD.NET
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out while[/color]
I
> > was
> > > > > studying for MCSE, that would help to.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am really
> > > > > desperate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but lost
my
> > job
> > > > in
> > > > > > February.
> > > > > > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is consultant
> > > (1099)
> > > > > > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > > > > > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I
was[c
olor=darkred]
> > > told
> > > > > that
> > > > > > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and
> > although
> > > > > they
> > > > > > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry[/color]
that
> > if
> > > > they
> > > > > > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for
> long.
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying
me.
> I
> > > live
> > > > > in
> > > > > > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much IT
> work
> > > > > > locally.
> > > > > > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience mainly
> in

> > > > > > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
> > > > replicating
> > > > > > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > > > > > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > > > > > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > > > > > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server 2000.
> > > > > > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > > > > > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and
> MCDBAs
> > > but
> > > > > > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the
> exam
> > > > fees.
> > > > > > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and PHP
as[co
lor=darkred]
> > > well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of
> some
> > > for
> > > > > me,
> > > > > > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > > > > > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting[/color]
my[co
lor=darkred]
> > > mother
> > > > > who
> > > > > > has chronic health problems, and we have a strong family[/color]
presence
> > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please someone out there help me!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Maggard
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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2003-08-06, 10:23 am

"KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
news

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> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:35:39 -0700, "Consultant"
> <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >28k a year baby, oh yeah
>
> now, now lets give him the benefit of the doubt. That would barely
> pay my annual mortgage cost.
>
> My cut is about 60/hr when I do consulting work over there, so I am
> curious. I could get a whole lot of house if I sold mine in LA and
> moved to Vegas, plus no state tax. I'm willing to pay high (still
> lower then LA) sales tax and about the same property tax for a small
> cut in pay so I don't have to deal with the California governement
> anymore.

I've been reading MCP Magazine's latest salary survey, and there's a section
of average IT salaries by city. Las Vegas was the third lowest at $51,100.
The only lower cities that I saw were Tucson at $49,300 and Oklahoma City at
$48,600. The highest, I think, was a place I used to live, San Jose at
$81,900, but keep in mind that the cost of living there was ridiculous. I
lived there nearly twenty years ago, and in the "rent controlled" district,
the cheapest apartment I could find, unfurnished, was $600/month. This was
TWENTY YEARS ago.

Orlando, the city closest to me, was $54,500.

--
Fris "Programming the mouse" bee® MCNGP #13

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

=?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?=

2003-08-06, 10:23 am

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uV3Qek5WDHA.1580@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> i hear ya there. i say we make las vegas the official home of the mcngp
and
> we can have our annual get togethers there!
>
> all those lovely showgirls!

Used to live there. I'm all for it. Prostitution is legal nearby, so
Tron2003 could actually find a date.

--
Fris "Shamrock" bee® MCNGP #13

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

Consultant

2003-08-06, 10:24 am

Xref: intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse:94114

won't help at all

"JaR" <plente@nospamsofthome.net> wrote in message
news:OTdW$I6WDHA.2080@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
> "Maestro" <maestro@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:036d01c35b9e$c384b340$a50
1280a@phx.gbl...
>
> > hopefully the Govt issue will be taken care of in a couple
> > of months.
> >
>
> Somehow I doubt that .ca.gov's woes are gonna be cured by just recalling
> Gray Davis.
>
> Or by the results of one election for that matter.
>
> J.R. Jones
>
> *besides, then what would my .wa.gov model it's self after?*
>
>

Consultant

2003-08-06, 10:24 am

or vice versa

"KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
news:sie0jvca4n74mr8n1oe2411fa
n1v31ulak@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:13:13 -0700, "Maestro" <maestro@nothere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >hopefully the Govt issue will be taken care of in a couple
> >of months
>
> They would have to blow up all of Sactown and half of LA to fix the
> California governement.
>
> KLXrider, MCNGP #18

Consultant

2003-08-06, 10:24 am

or he could put on a dress and try to earn some extra cash ;-)

"Frisbee® MCNGP" <bhileman@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
news:e#7FlFCXDHA.2204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uV3Qek5WDHA.1580@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > i hear ya there. i say we make las vegas the official home of the mcngp
> and
> > we can have our annual get togethers there!
> >
> > all those lovely showgirls!
>
> Used to live there. I'm all for it. Prostitution is legal nearby, so
> Tron2003 could actually find a date.
>
>
> --
> Fris "Shamrock" bee® MCNGP #13
>
> http://www.mcngp.tk
> The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
>

KLXrider

2003-08-06, 11:23 am

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:46:36 -0400, Frisbee® MCNGP
<bhileman@dasi-software.com> wrote:

> Las Vegas was the third lowest at $51,100.

OUCH! To much of a paycut, I will have to stay in LA

KLXrider, MCNGP #18

Politician Spock

2003-08-06, 11:23 am

"JaR" <plente@nospamsofthome.net> wrote in message
news:OTdW$I6WDHA.2080@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
> "Maestro" <maestro@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:036d01c35b9e$c384b340$a50
1280a@phx.gbl...
>
> > hopefully the Govt issue will be taken care of in a couple
> > of months.
> >
>
> Somehow I doubt that .ca.gov's woes are gonna be cured by just recalling
> Gray Davis.
>

I agree. You can't just treat the symptoms. To cure it, you have to get rid
of the tumor. It's too bad you have to get rid of a tumor with a cool
name... "San Francisco".

--
Politician Spock
MCSA, CCEA, MCNGP #15
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
You assume all risk for your use. Not responsible for your inability to
understand logic, ambiguous references, sarcasm, the imaginary gnomes
living in my garden, or William Shatner's acting.
© 2003 Star Trek Federation. All rights reserved.

Consultant

2003-08-06, 11:23 am

i may need to talk to you about gigs. thinkin of movin down that way

"KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
news

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> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:46:36 -0400, Frisbee® MCNGP
> <bhileman@dasi-software.com> wrote:
>
> > Las Vegas was the third lowest at $51,100.
>
> OUCH! To much of a paycut, I will have to stay in LA
>
> KLXrider, MCNGP #18

Ken Briscoe

2003-08-06, 11:23 am

> Fris "And don't call me Shirley" bee® MCNGP #13
>
Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?

David Maggard

2003-08-06, 12:23 pm

"Ken Briscoe" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23B3RppCXDHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Fris "And don't call me Shirley" bee® MCNGP #13
> >
> Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?
>
>

Airplane man! Awesome!

David Maggard

2003-08-06, 12:23 pm

No, But I've been wanting to since I was reading about it. Even bought
Fortas Flash integration book After hearing about the flash email client
that they build all kinds of possibilities started dancing in my head..

"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
news:OR4frD$WDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> david have you worked with flash before?
>
> "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:vj06ab8dr9f4b0@corp.supernews.com...
> > Yes I perfer jscript ASP, but have done some VB, including some VBA, I
can
> > do VB, just don't like to.
> > Thats why theres chocolate and vanilla.
> >
> > I prefer CF to ASP tho, faster development, although I have been wanting
> to
> > learn C#.
> >
> > I personally love to learn new things, but dislike doing it on a job if
I
> > can do it a way I already know, due to the fact of the time involved in
> > learning it, I always advise clients on what I have experience in, if a
> > client wants it done a different way, good for me.
> > The company I have been working for was looking at doing their web based
> > stuff in ASP.NET, but when we discussed that I would have to learn it,
> they
> > opted to buy CF Server and save time.
> >
> >
> > "Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23abo4G5WDHA.656@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > I am currently an MCSA (two exams shy of MCSE) and have yet to see an
> exam
> > > question on web development. However, when I passed the C# exams
> > > (particularly the web development exam), I came across JavaScript
> > questions.
> > >
> > > I wrongly assumed VB.NET would be a better fit because of your
> experience
> > > in:
> > > ASP (usually programmed in VBScript - perhaps you're a JScript
> developer)
> > > VBA (Visual Basic for Applications - usually applied to Office
> > development)
> > > Access - a VBA application
> > >
> > > You know, with VB.NET (or any of the other 30+ .NET languages), we now
> > have
> > > all four pillars of OOP and true multithreaded programming with
garbage
> > > collection (automatic memory clean up). Perhaps C# or JScript.NET is
> right
> > > up your alley - syntactically the same as Java. By the way - all three
> > > languages are free to download from Microsoft in the .NET SDK.
> > >
> > > However, it seems as though you have your mind set and I respect that.
> > > Good luck on your quest for MCSE.
> > >
> > > Davin Mickelson
> > >
> > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:eKYsiy4WDHA.3232@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I really do understand your question, In the area I live most
> companies
> > > > aren't big enough to need or afford a server admin, a graphic
> designer,
> > a
> > > > database admin, and a web site programmer. Most want a swiss army
IT[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > worker, and while I can do all but the graphics fairly well, if I[/color]
was[c
olor=darkred]
> > > > certified for MCSE and MCDBA as well as experienced, It would give[/color]
me
> > and
> > > > edge over other applicants, and since there are so few jobs in the
> area
> > I
> > > am
> > > > hoping that it will help me get a more stable job. I feel that doing
> > mcse
> > > > will help me hone my skills as well as give me something to show to
> > local
> > > > employers.
> > > > An no offence, but I have always found VB to be an ugly language
> lacking
> > > C++
> > > > & javascripts simply beauty, I find C type syntax easier to read.
> > > > My impression of MCSD was it was geared more towards application
> > > > programming, which I really haven't done much of since High School,
> and
> > > not
> > > > web programming which is where my strength lies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Davin Mickelson" <corkwatchr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:u0b0EO4WDHA.608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Hi, David.
> > > > > I respect your need to care for your family. That's great. Family
> > should
> > > > > always comes first, IMHO.
> > > > >
> > > > > A couple of thoughts - if you are a web developer/DB
Administrator,[col
or=green]
> > why
> > > > are
> > > > > you considering becoming certified as an MCSE? Have you considered
> > > > becoming
> > > > > an MCSD? I mean no insult to the members of this group (some will
> take
> > > > > insult anyway - that's okay), but MCSEs are becoming as popular as
> > Ford
> > > > > Tauruses in the US. If you don't have one yourself, you know[/color]
someone
> > > else
> > > > > who does. I don't know of any unemployed MCSDs/MCADs. However,
MCSEs

> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > tougher time of landing a job.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your skill set shows me that your definitely ready to learn and
work[
color=darkred]
> > > with
> > > > > VB.NET. Get the count of the different types of certified folks
> here:
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/certified.asp
> > > > >
> > > > > You can earn an MCAD certification in VB.NET with three exams (vs.
> > > MCSE's
> > > > > seven exams).
> > > > >
> > > > > If you perform a search on http://www.dice.com, you'll find no CF
> jobs
> > > in
> > > > > Nevada, however, here's what I found with .NET:
> > > > > ASP.NET Developer - Eastridge Infotech Las Vegas, NV (8-1-2003)
> > > > > .Net Software Developers - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > > > > (7-22-2003)
> > > > > .Net Software Architect - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas, NV
> > > > > (7-22-2003)
> > > > > .Net Software Test Engineer - CDI Professional Services Las Vegas,
> NV

> > > > > (7-22-2003)
> > > > > VB.net Software Engineer - Eastridge Infotech Reno, NV (8-5-2003)
> > > > > C# Apps Developer - Equities Trading - Eric Robert Associates New
> > York,
> > > NV
> > > > > (8-1-2003)
> > > > > Programmer - Legacy Solutions Reno, NV (8-1-2003)
> > > > > Network Administrator - Vecor, Inc Elko, NV (8-4-2003)
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey - there's an MCSE job on the end!
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck to you. Skip using expensive books when you study - use
> MSDN
> > > and
> > > > > Transcender practice exams. You sound like you have great
> programming[color
=darkred]
> > > > skills
> > > > > that should put toward SW development.
> > > > >
> > > > > This information is based purely on my opinions and you can take[/color][/color]
it
> or

> > > > leave
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Davin Mickelson
> > > > > MCP+SiteBuilding, MCSD(VS6), MCSD.NET
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:vivqjl6g6a7mbf@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > Or if any of you know of any programs that would help me out
while
> I
> > > was
> > > > > > studying for MCSE, that would help to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "David Maggard" <drm31415@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:vivqe4i4je6753@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > > Let me start by saying I really hate doing this, but I am
really
> > > > > > desperate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have been a cold fusion programmer for over 4 years, but
lost
> my

> > > job
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > February.
> > > > > > > A few months later I found my current 'job', which is
consultant
> > > > (1099)
> > > > > > > sidework, in which I get paid per project upon completion.
> > > > > > > But when I finish my last project for them about 2 weeks ago I
> was
> > > > told
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > they didn't have any money in the account to pay me with, and
> > > although
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > say I should be getting a check in the next few days, I worry
> that
> > > if
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > are this tight on money, whether they will be in business for
> > long.
> > > I
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > barely keeping my head above water with what they were paying
> me.
> > I
> > > > live
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > a small town in southwest Utah, near Las Vegas, without much
IT
> > work
> > > > > > > locally.
> > > > > > > I am an expert (certified) in Cold Fusion with experience
mainly
> > in
> > > > > > > eCommerce(shopping carts and credit card processing) and self
> > > > > replicating
> > > > > > > websites(member sites, and email campaign tracking).
> > > > > > > I have advanced skills with JavaScript.
> > > > > > > I have intermediate skills with ASP and VBA.
> > > > > > > I have advanced database skills with Access and SQL server
2000. [colo
r=darkred]
> > > > > > > I have intermediate windows networking skills.
> > > > > > > A friend of mine and I have been trying to get our MCSEs and
> > MCDBAs
> > > > but
> > > > > > > haven't had the money to spend on a test network let alone the
> > exam
> > > > > fees.
> > > > > > > I have also been wanting to expand my skills into Linux and[/color]
PHP
> as

> > > > well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was hoping someone out there would have some work or know of
> > some
> > > > for
> > > > > > me,
> > > > > > > preferable something I could do from home or in Las Vegas.
> > > > > > > I really would like to avoid moving, as I have been supporting