microsoft.public.cert.exams.mcse - 70-216

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70-216 - Bad rep or just bad?

znakomi

2003-07-31, 12:23 pm

In addition to my above post about multisourcing study
resources, I found there were more conflicts than usual
between sources for 216 books....for example in setting up
policies of dial in. Some sources actually said that a
call must match ALL of the policies to be granted access.
Of cource to match all the policies, all the conditions in
each policy must be matched, therefore, for a call to get
in, it must match all the conditions in all the policies.
Of course this is foolishness, the system works how you
would think it would, but in the text and even chapter
reviews the foolish idea that all policies must match a
call was driven home "learn this wrong thing, and don't
forget it".

Similar snafoo in Transcender. A question where dial in
was set for a max length of 8 hours (max session length
was set to 480 minutes). "Disconnect after 5 minutes of
inactivity" was NOT checked. In the possible
answers, "Calls will be disconnected after 8 hours of
inactivity' was an available choice. I checked it and got
it wrong. The reason I checked it was that the call was
going to disconnect after 8 hours if there was activity or
not because of the 480 minute constraint. But the
transcender didn't care about that, they only wanted to
know if I had noticed that "Disconnect after 5 minutes"
was checked. In order to verify that Transcender was
wrong, I set up the scenario(but used 2 minutes for max
session length instead of 8 hours, lol, I'm not that
patient), and of course it disconnected, making
Transcender exactly wrong.

Most of the conflicts in the materials for 216 were in the
area of remote access, I don't know why this area was
botched so badly, (and it may have contributed to early
failures for folks who learned what the early books told
them). Just remember that as soon as all the conditions of
a policy are met, that policy is applied and the system
looks no further(the flowcharts were all correct), that
you must match all the conditions in all the policies as
some books proport is wrong.

Also, unrelated: I wonder if the questions have changed
since 216 first came out.

>-----Original Message-----
>I've read over and over how hard the 70-216 exam is. I'm
curious if this is
>simply being repeated from those who have read it other
places, or if each
>post represents a true opinion from someone who has taken
the exam. I have
>reviewed the topics for the exam, and quite frankly, it
just doesn't look
>all that difficult. I would like to get some opinions
from those that have
>taken the exam, and if you consider it to be very
difficult, please give a
>few reasons why.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Clint Kennedy
>BSCS, MCP
>
>
>.
>

Diana K Brown

2003-07-31, 5:23 pm

Great insight and advice! I agree with your approach 100% That is how I am
proceeding in self-study.
Thanx for the down to earth comments.

"znakomi" <znakomi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In addition to my above post about multisourcing study
> resources, I found there were more conflicts than usual
> between sources for 216 books....for example in setting up
> policies of dial in. Some sources actually said that a
> call must match ALL of the policies to be granted access.
> Of cource to match all the policies, all the conditions in
> each policy must be matched, therefore, for a call to get
> in, it must match all the conditions in all the policies.
> Of course this is foolishness, the system works how you
> would think it would, but in the text and even chapter
> reviews the foolish idea that all policies must match a
> call was driven home "learn this wrong thing, and don't
> forget it".
>
> Similar snafoo in Transcender. A question where dial in
> was set for a max length of 8 hours (max session length
> was set to 480 minutes). "Disconnect after 5 minutes of
> inactivity" was NOT checked. In the possible
> answers, "Calls will be disconnected after 8 hours of
> inactivity' was an available choice. I checked it and got
> it wrong. The reason I checked it was that the call was
> going to disconnect after 8 hours if there was activity or
> not because of the 480 minute constraint. But the
> transcender didn't care about that, they only wanted to
> know if I had noticed that "Disconnect after 5 minutes"
> was checked. In order to verify that Transcender was
> wrong, I set up the scenario(but used 2 minutes for max
> session length instead of 8 hours, lol, I'm not that
> patient), and of course it disconnected, making
> Transcender exactly wrong.
>
> Most of the conflicts in the materials for 216 were in the
> area of remote access, I don't know why this area was
> botched so badly, (and it may have contributed to early
> failures for folks who learned what the early books told
> them). Just remember that as soon as all the conditions of
> a policy are met, that policy is applied and the system
> looks no further(the flowcharts were all correct), that
> you must match all the conditions in all the policies as
> some books proport is wrong.
>
>
> Also, unrelated: I wonder if the questions have changed
> since 216 first came out.
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I've read over and over how hard the 70-216 exam is. I'm
> curious if this is
> >simply being repeated from those who have read it other
> places, or if each
> >post represents a true opinion from someone who has taken
> the exam. I have
> >reviewed the topics for the exam, and quite frankly, it
> just doesn't look
> >all that difficult. I would like to get some opinions
> from those that have
> >taken the exam, and if you consider it to be very
> difficult, please give a
> >few reasons why.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Clint Kennedy
> >BSCS, MCP
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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