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| Hi,
Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to change
occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to loss
of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
recently and have been seriously considering changing over
from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
different or similar field. I've just started studying for
the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
admin side of things is any better in employment?.
Regards,
T.N
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| Batman 2003-03-03, 7:23 am |
| Yup, the Bat got out of IT, I had had enough and when the redundancy notice
came in I was lucky enough to find a field role, a bit of IT thrown in but
also lots of Electronics (my other career) so I'm back in Electronic
Engineering with better prospects and better money,
it was a personal decision to get out of network administrator roles, I was
very disillusioned with the industry, hope it picks up soon for you guys out
there
Bat
"T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:01a101c2e181$3abcaeb0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to change
> occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to loss
> of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
> recently and have been seriously considering changing over
> from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
> different or similar field. I've just started studying for
> the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
> admin side of things is any better in employment?.
>
>
> Regards,
> T.N
| |
| billyw 2003-03-03, 8:23 am |
| are u in a manufacturing enviroment?
thats doomed in the UK
"Batman" <powzappowbam@batcave.net> wrote in message
news:b3vkqn$dql$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Yup, the Bat got out of IT, I had had enough and when the redundancy
notice
> came in I was lucky enough to find a field role, a bit of IT thrown in but
> also lots of Electronics (my other career) so I'm back in Electronic
> Engineering with better prospects and better money,
> it was a personal decision to get out of network administrator roles, I
was
> very disillusioned with the industry, hope it picks up soon for you guys
out
> there
>
> Bat
> "T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:01a101c2e181$3abcaeb0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to change
> > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to loss
> > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
> > recently and have been seriously considering changing over
> > from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
> > different or similar field. I've just started studying for
> > the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
> > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > T.N
>
>
| |
|
| So from the feed bak im getting Network admin and Systems
admins are no better off than my last role as a DBA. All
these mega financial banking corporations are going down
the drain. Im thinking of starting my own compny where we
set up networks for small to medium sized buisnesses. Is
this futile in the current dot.com crashes?
>-----Original Message-----
>are u in a manufacturing enviroment?
>thats doomed in the UK
>
>"Batman" <powzappowbam@batcave.net> wrote in message
>news:b3vkqn$dql$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Yup, the Bat got out of IT, I had had enough and when
the redundancy
>notice
>> came in I was lucky enough to find a field role, a bit
of IT thrown in but
>> also lots of Electronics (my other career) so I'm back
in Electronic
>> Engineering with better prospects and better money,
>> it was a personal decision to get out of network
administrator roles, I
>was
>> very disillusioned with the industry, hope it picks up
soon for you guys
>out
>> there
>>
>> Bat
>> "T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:01a101c2e181$3abcaeb0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
>> > Hi,
>> > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to
change
>> > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to
loss[
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>> > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
>> > recently and have been seriously considering changing[/color]
over[
color=darkred]
>> > from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
>> > different or similar field. I've just started[/color]
studying for[c
olor=darkred]
>> > the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
>> > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > T.N
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>[/color]
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| billyw 2003-03-03, 8:23 am |
| works for me..
first thing to think about is how u approach the small companies.. dont hit
them with buzz words or drown them in acronyms.. they'll chuck u out of the
door..
treat them like people and sell it as a helping device.. not technology
"T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:027201c2e189$796693d0$330
1280a@phx.gbl...
> So from the feed bak im getting Network admin and Systems
> admins are no better off than my last role as a DBA. All
> these mega financial banking corporations are going down
> the drain. Im thinking of starting my own compny where we
> set up networks for small to medium sized buisnesses. Is
> this futile in the current dot.com crashes?
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >are u in a manufacturing enviroment?
> >thats doomed in the UK
> >
> >"Batman" <powzappowbam@batcave.net> wrote in message
> >news:b3vkqn$dql$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> Yup, the Bat got out of IT, I had had enough and when
> the redundancy
> >notice
> >> came in I was lucky enough to find a field role, a bit
> of IT thrown in but
> >> also lots of Electronics (my other career) so I'm back
> in Electronic
> >> Engineering with better prospects and better money,
> >> it was a personal decision to get out of network
> administrator roles, I
> >was
> >> very disillusioned with the industry, hope it picks up
> soon for you guys
> >out
> >> there
> >>
> >> Bat
> >> "T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:01a101c2e181$3abcaeb0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi,
> >> > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to
> change
> >> > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to
> loss
> >> > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
> >> > recently and have been seriously considering changing
> over
> >> > from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
> >> > different or similar field. I've just started
> studying for
> >> > the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
> >> > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > T.N
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >
| |
| Laura A. Robinson 2003-03-03, 8:23 am |
| circa Mon, 3 Mar 2003 04:34:27 -0800, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, T.N (thenguyen743@hotmail.com) said,
> Hi,
> Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to change
> occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to loss
> of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
> recently and have been seriously considering changing over
> from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
> different or similar field. I've just started studying for
> the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
> admin side of things is any better in employment?.
>
If anything, I'd say it's worse.
Laura
--
Any condescension detected in this post is fully unintentional and is
solely the perception of the reader. If I think you're an idiot, I'll
tell you that. You won't need to intuit it.
| |
|
| So billy u telling me u have already started a company
like the one ive proposed?.. I have 2 other I.T qualified
guys interested in this as well but dun no about how much
capital we need, turnover.. etc etc.. any tips would be
nice. Sorry so pissed off with those mega corps jerking
ppl off. U study 4 years at uni just to get jerked off
when u come out.
>-----Original Message-----
>works for me..
>first thing to think about is how u approach the small
companies.. dont hit
>them with buzz words or drown them in acronyms.. they'll
chuck u out of the
>door..
>treat them like people and sell it as a helping device..
not technology
>
>
>"T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:027201c2e189$796693d0$330
1280a@phx.gbl...
>> So from the feed bak im getting Network admin and
Systems
>> admins are no better off than my last role as a DBA. All
>> these mega financial banking corporations are going down
>> the drain. Im thinking of starting my own compny where
we
>> set up networks for small to medium sized buisnesses. Is
>> this futile in the current dot.com crashes?
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >are u in a manufacturing enviroment?
>> >thats doomed in the UK
>> >
>> >"Batman" <powzappowbam@batcave.net> wrote in message
>> >news:b3vkqn$dql$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> >> Yup, the Bat got out of IT, I had had enough and when
>> the redundancy
>> >notice
>> >> came in I was lucky enough to find a field role, a
bit
>> of IT thrown in but
>> >> also lots of Electronics (my other career) so I'm
back
>> in Electronic
>> >> Engineering with better prospects and better money,
>> >> it was a personal decision to get out of network
>> administrator roles, I
>> >was
>> >> very disillusioned with the industry, hope it picks
up
>> soon for you guys
>> >out
>> >> there
>> >>
>> >> Bat
>> >> "T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:01a101c2e181$3abcaeb0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to
>> change
>> >> > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to
>> loss
>> >> > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major
corporation
>> >> > recently and have been seriously considering
changing
>> over
>> >> > from Database Administrator after 3 years to
something
>> >> > different or similar field. I've just started
>> studying for
>> >> > the MCSE exams and wondering if the
networking/ systems
>> >> > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > T.N
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
| |
| Laura A. Robinson 2003-03-03, 8:23 am |
| circa Mon, 3 Mar 2003 05:33:28 -0800, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, T.N (thenguyen743@hotmail.com) said,
> Im thinking of starting my own compny where we
> set up networks for small to medium sized buisnesses. Is
> this futile in the current dot.com crashes?
>
>
I hate to sound fatalistic, but if it were me, there's no way I'd be
putting my income and credit rating on the line to try to start up a
business in this field. Things just aren't pretty out there right
now. Just my opinion.
Laura
--
Any condescension detected in this post is fully unintentional and is
solely the perception of the reader. If I think you're an idiot, I'll
tell you that. You won't need to intuit it.
| |
| billyw 2003-03-03, 8:23 am |
| i started with 400 gbp and the cost of setting up my web site. spent money
on getting a good website, makes you look proffessional.
the other thing u need a lot of is time, hassle people if u get one customer
lavish the bugger with time, give him freebies, dont charge for some work,
he's bound to be connected and could lead to more work..
also get hold of a laptop.. i couldn't afford one at the start.. and was a
pain
"T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:024e01c2e18b$5f86aac0$340
1280a@phx.gbl...
> So billy u telling me u have already started a company
> like the one ive proposed?.. I have 2 other I.T qualified
> guys interested in this as well but dun no about how much
> capital we need, turnover.. etc etc.. any tips would be
> nice. Sorry so pissed off with those mega corps jerking
> ppl off. U study 4 years at uni just to get jerked off
> when u come out.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >works for me..
> >first thing to think about is how u approach the small
> companies.. dont hit
> >them with buzz words or drown them in acronyms.. they'll
> chuck u out of the
> >door..
> >treat them like people and sell it as a helping device..
> not technology
> >
> >
> >"T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:027201c2e189$796693d0$330
1280a@phx.gbl...
> >> So from the feed bak im getting Network admin and
> Systems
> >> admins are no better off than my last role as a DBA. All
> >> these mega financial banking corporations are going down
> >> the drain. Im thinking of starting my own compny where
> we
> >> set up networks for small to medium sized buisnesses. Is
> >> this futile in the current dot.com crashes?
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >are u in a manufacturing enviroment?
> >> >thats doomed in the UK
> >> >
> >> >"Batman" <powzappowbam@batcave.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:b3vkqn$dql$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> >> Yup, the Bat got out of IT, I had had enough and when
> >> the redundancy
> >> >notice
> >> >> came in I was lucky enough to find a field role, a
> bit
> >> of IT thrown in but
> >> >> also lots of Electronics (my other career) so I'm
> back
> >> in Electronic
> >> >> Engineering with better prospects and better money,
> >> >> it was a personal decision to get out of network
> >> administrator roles, I
> >> >was
> >> >> very disillusioned with the industry, hope it picks
> up
> >> soon for you guys
> >> >out
> >> >> there
> >> >>
> >> >> Bat
> >> >> "T.N" <thenguyen743@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:01a101c2e181$3abcaeb0$300
1280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to
> >> change
> >> >> > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to
> >> loss
> >> >> > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major
> corporation[color
=darkred]
> >> >> > recently and have been seriously considering
> changing
> >> over
> >> >> > from Database Administrator after 3 years to
> something
> >> >> > different or similar field. I've just started
> >> studying for
> >> >> > the MCSE exams and wondering if the
> networking/ systems
> >> >> > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > T.N
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >[/color]
| |
| Martin Limburn 2003-03-03, 9:23 am |
| I did as Billy, it not easy and you need to put in a lot of hardwork, We've
been going 8 Months, and now we phone a prospective customer, they already
now about us. So the sale is almost already made. I was warned before
starting out getting businesses to come over to tour side would be hard, but
it has been harder for us to gain home user business.
And at the end of the day, no dipstick standing over your shoulder saying i
wouldn't do it like that!!!!
Martin
"Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.18cd266ca58b99ea98a348@msnews.microsoft.com...
> circa Mon, 3 Mar 2003 04:34:27 -0800, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, T.N (thenguyen743@hotmail.com) said,
> > Hi,
> > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to change
> > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to loss
> > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
> > recently and have been seriously considering changing over
> > from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
> > different or similar field. I've just started studying for
> > the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
> > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
> >
> If anything, I'd say it's worse.
>
> Laura
> --
> Any condescension detected in this post is fully unintentional and is
> solely the perception of the reader. If I think you're an idiot, I'll
> tell you that. You won't need to intuit it.
| |
| billyw 2003-03-03, 10:23 am |
| try 2 pricing structures for home user and business..
"Martin Limburn" <martin@limbtec.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OkdUahZ4CHA.2400@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I did as Billy, it not easy and you need to put in a lot of hardwork,
We've
> been going 8 Months, and now we phone a prospective customer, they already
> now about us. So the sale is almost already made. I was warned before
> starting out getting businesses to come over to tour side would be hard,
but
> it has been harder for us to gain home user business.
>
> And at the end of the day, no dipstick standing over your shoulder saying
i
> wouldn't do it like that!!!!
>
> Martin
> "Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in
message
> news:MPG.18cd266ca58b99ea98a348@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > circa Mon, 3 Mar 2003 04:34:27 -0800, in
> > microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, T.N (thenguyen743@hotmail.com) said,
> > > Hi,
> > > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to change
> > > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to loss
> > > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
> > > recently and have been seriously considering changing over
> > > from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
> > > different or similar field. I've just started studying for
> > > the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
> > > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
> > >
> > If anything, I'd say it's worse.
> >
> > Laura
> > --
> > Any condescension detected in this post is fully unintentional and is
> > solely the perception of the reader. If I think you're an idiot, I'll
> > tell you that. You won't need to intuit it.
>
>
| |
| billyw 2003-03-03, 10:23 am |
| hey martin..
your website is pretty poor, want to buy one 
"Martin Limburn" <martin@limbtec.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OkdUahZ4CHA.2400@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I did as Billy, it not easy and you need to put in a lot of hardwork,
We've
> been going 8 Months, and now we phone a prospective customer, they already
> now about us. So the sale is almost already made. I was warned before
> starting out getting businesses to come over to tour side would be hard,
but
> it has been harder for us to gain home user business.
>
> And at the end of the day, no dipstick standing over your shoulder saying
i
> wouldn't do it like that!!!!
>
> Martin
> "Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in
message
> news:MPG.18cd266ca58b99ea98a348@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > circa Mon, 3 Mar 2003 04:34:27 -0800, in
> > microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, T.N (thenguyen743@hotmail.com) said,
> > > Hi,
> > > Just wondering if any ppl here have decided to change
> > > occupations due to the current Tech slump or due to loss
> > > of a job. Ive been retrenched from a major corporation
> > > recently and have been seriously considering changing over
> > > from Database Administrator after 3 years to something
> > > different or similar field. I've just started studying for
> > > the MCSE exams and wondering if the networking/systems
> > > admin side of things is any better in employment?.
> > >
> > If anything, I'd say it's worse.
> >
> > Laura
> > --
> > Any condescension detected in this post is fully unintentional and is
> > solely the perception of the reader. If I think you're an idiot, I'll
> > tell you that. You won't need to intuit it.
>
>
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