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| What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and for
some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and make
it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid DNS
structure in place already.
Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case? Would the
2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
E
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| Consultant® 2002-07-24, 9:25 am |
| if you want to have a win2k dc, upgrade your pdc. if you do this, take your
pdc offline, promote one of your bdc's, then upgrade it. if it turns ugly,
simply take the win2k dc offline and bring your original pdc back online
"Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com...
> What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and
for
> some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and
make
> it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid
DNS
> structure in place already.
>
> Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case? Would
the
> 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
>
> E
>
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| Umm, thanks. I know about migration. My question is what happens if you
try to do what I said. In other words, leave the PDC and BDCs as they are
in a Win NT 4.0 network. But then bring up a Windows 2000 domain controller
(or try to). I haven't found anything that explains what occurs in this
situation. My guess is it won't work -- cause the 2000 box will find the
PDC and then fail to complete dcpromo.
Again, what happens in the scenario I proposed?
E
"Consultant®" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ezRptJyMCHA.1976@tkmsftngp11...
> if you want to have a win2k dc, upgrade your pdc. if you do this, take
your
> pdc offline, promote one of your bdc's, then upgrade it. if it turns ugly,
> simply take the win2k dc offline and bring your original pdc back online
>
>
>
> "Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com...
> > What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and
> for
> > some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and
> make
> > it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid
> DNS
> > structure in place already.
> >
> > Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case? Would
> the
> > 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
> >
> > E
> >
> >
> >
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| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-24, 9:25 am |
| circa Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:52:35 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Eric (eric@nospam.com) said,
> What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and for
> some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and make
> it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid DNS
> structure in place already.
>
> Would that even work?
No.
> What would happen to the PDC in that case?
Irrelevant because it wouldn't work.
> Would the
> 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
No.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
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| =mėanoldman= 2002-07-24, 9:25 am |
| You're right; it doesn't work.
--
http://www.mcngp.tk
"Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ujtgn74epq05ed@corp.supernews.com...
> Umm, thanks. I know about migration. My question is what happens if you
> try to do what I said. In other words, leave the PDC and BDCs as they are
> in a Win NT 4.0 network. But then bring up a Windows 2000 domain
controller
> (or try to). I haven't found anything that explains what occurs in this
> situation. My guess is it won't work -- cause the 2000 box will find the
> PDC and then fail to complete dcpromo.
>
> Again, what happens in the scenario I proposed?
>
> E
>
>
> "Consultant®" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ezRptJyMCHA.1976@tkmsftngp11...
> > if you want to have a win2k dc, upgrade your pdc. if you do this, take
> your
> > pdc offline, promote one of your bdc's, then upgrade it. if it turns
ugly,
> > simply take the win2k dc offline and bring your original pdc back online
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com...
> > > What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers)
and
> > for
> > > some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and
> > make
> > > it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a
valid
> > DNS
> > > structure in place already.
> > >
> > > Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case?
Would
> > the
> > > 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
> > >
> > > E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-24, 10:25 am |
| circa Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:08:22 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Eric (eric@nospam.com) said,
> Umm, thanks. I know about migration. My question is what happens if you
> try to do what I said. In other words, leave the PDC and BDCs as they are
> in a Win NT 4.0 network. But then bring up a Windows 2000 domain controller
> (or try to). I haven't found anything that explains what occurs in this
> situation. My guess is it won't work -- cause the 2000 box will find the
> PDC and then fail to complete dcpromo.
>
> Again, what happens in the scenario I proposed?
>
See my post.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
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| Thanks all! You confirmed what I thought.
"Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com...
> What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and
for
> some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and
make
> it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid
DNS
> structure in place already.
>
> Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case? Would
the
> 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
>
> E
>
>
>
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| David Brownridge 2002-07-24, 10:25 am |
| "Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com...
> What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers)
and for
> some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo
and make
> it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a
valid DNS
> structure in place already.
>
> Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case?
Would the
> 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
So you run DCPROMO, tell it to join an existing _Active_Directory_
domain, and it goes looking for an existing DC in the purported AD
domain -- and can't find one. DCPROMO fails.
--
rgds
DVD
(David Brownridge) <mailto VD@melbpc.org.au>
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| My guess is that it would not let you create a domain with the same
name as an existing domain. You cannot have two domains named the
same.
Jim
"Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com>...
> What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and for
> some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and make
> it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid DNS
> structure in place already.
>
> Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case? Would the
> 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
>
> E
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| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-24, 5:25 pm |
| circa 24 Jul 2002 14:47:48 -0700, in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,
Jim (jumpingjack82@hotmail.com) said,
>
> My guess is that it would not let you create a domain with the same
> name as an existing domain. You cannot have two domains named the
> same.
>
There is no way to install a Windows 2000 box as a BDC. The only way
to make a Windows 2000 box a DC is via DCPromo, and when it was run,
if you told it that you were making another DC for an existing
domain, it would tell you that it couldn't locate the domain. It
would only try to create a *new* domain if you chose that option in
dcpromo, and yes, it would refuse if the names were duplicate.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
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| Mike Borduas 2002-07-24, 6:25 pm |
| run dcpromo on a Win2k standalone machine, regardless of what
domain/workgroup it belongs to
and the only workable option you'll have is for a new Domain/forest
"Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com...
> What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and
for
> some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and
make
> it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid
DNS
> structure in place already.
>
> Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case? Would
the
> 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
>
> E
>
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| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-27, 12:25 am |
| circa Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:03:19 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Mike Borduas (mike@poolsters.on.ca)
said,
>
> run dcpromo on a Win2k standalone machine, regardless of what
> domain/workgroup it belongs to
> and the only workable option you'll have is for a new Domain/forest
>
Untrue.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
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| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-27, 12:25 am |
| circa Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:03:19 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Mike Borduas (mike@poolsters.on.ca)
said,
>
> run dcpromo on a Win2k standalone machine, regardless of what
> domain/workgroup it belongs to
> and the only workable option you'll have is for a new Domain/forest
>
P.S. I just tested to make sure that I wasn't recalling incorrectly.
You have the option to create an additional DC when a Windows 2000
server is in a workgroup, just as you do when it is a member server.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
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| Pete M. 2002-07-27, 11:25 am |
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"Eric" <eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ujtfpk23ubia4d@corp.supernews.com...
> What happens if you have a pure NT 4.0 network (all NT 4.0 Servers) and
for
> some reason simply install a windows 2000 server, then run dcpromo and
make
> it a domain controller in that NT 4.0 network -- assume you have a valid
DNS
> structure in place already.
>
> Would that even work? What would happen to the PDC in that case? Would
the
> 2000 box operate like a BDC in that case?
This is a VERY STUPID question. I am sure some STUPID will bite and answer
it.
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| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-27, 12:25 pm |
| circa Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:32:56 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Pete M. (nospam@nospam.net) said,
>
> This is a VERY STUPID question. I am sure some STUPID will bite and answer
> it.
>
>
Now *there* is a useless response. I'd rather see his "stupid"
question than your pointless answer.
Laura
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Know how to ask. There is nothing more difficult for some people. Nor
for others, easier.
-Baltasar Gracian
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