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Strange Win98 Problem
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| My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have speeded
it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
programs he gets the following:
A msg box opens which says:
Open With
Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file is". If
the program you want is not on the list click other.
He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some files i.e
*.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and they
seem OK
Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the above msg
with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel but
then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open setup.exe.
Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original directory
and keep all he setting, will this help?
I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing all
his apps if possible.
Thanks for any help
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| =mëanoldman= 2002-07-18, 10:25 am |
| Copy any data you want to retain to an alternate location then format your
drive and reinstall.
"Lee" <email@email.com> wrote in message
news:4CBZ8.8674$Q92.62134476@news-text.cableinet.net...
> My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have speeded
> it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
> programs he gets the following:
>
> A msg box opens which says:
>
> Open With
>
> Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file is". If
> the program you want is not on the list click other.
>
>
>
>
>
> He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some files
i.e
> *.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
> directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and they
> seem OK
>
> Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the above
msg
> with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel but
> then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
>
> If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open setup.exe.
>
> Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original
directory
> and keep all he setting, will this help?
>
> I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing all
> his apps if possible.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
>
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| allan 2002-07-18, 10:25 am |
| I think I encounter this problem about 2-3 years ago. There was a virus
there prevented me from running an *.exe file.
Have you tried running a virus scan on your system?
"Lee" <email@email.com> wrote in message
news:4CBZ8.8674$Q92.62134476@news-text.cableinet.net...
> My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have speeded
> it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
> programs he gets the following:
>
> A msg box opens which says:
>
> Open With
>
> Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file is". If
> the program you want is not on the list click other.
>
>
>
>
>
> He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some files
i.e
> *.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
> directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and they
> seem OK
>
> Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the above
msg
> with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel but
> then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
>
> If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open setup.exe.
>
> Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original
directory
> and keep all he setting, will this help?
>
> I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing all
> his apps if possible.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
>
| |
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| Tried a virus scan, came up with no probs. My dad doesn't connect to net and
only runs decent software, so not that surprised. It is as though the defrag
routine has lost some information!! Very strange, I think it might be
reinstall time :-(
"allan" <ct77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#$iRxYnLCHA.2004@tkmsftngp10...
> I think I encounter this problem about 2-3 years ago. There was a virus
> there prevented me from running an *.exe file.
>
> Have you tried running a virus scan on your system?
>
>
> "Lee" <email@email.com> wrote in message
> news:4CBZ8.8674$Q92.62134476@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have
speeded
> > it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
> > programs he gets the following:
> >
> > A msg box opens which says:
> >
> > Open With
> >
> > Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file is".
If
> > the program you want is not on the list click other.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some files
> i.e
> > *.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
> > directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and they
> > seem OK
> >
> > Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the above
> msg
> > with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel
but
> > then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
> >
> > If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open
setup.exe.
> >
> > Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original
> directory
> > and keep all he setting, will this help?
> >
> > I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing
all
> > his apps if possible.
> >
> > Thanks for any help
> >
> >
>
>
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| Tom MacIntyre 2002-07-18, 11:25 am |
| On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:00:00 GMT, "Lee" <email@email.com> wrote:
>My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have speeded
>it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
>programs he gets the following:
>
>A msg box opens which says:
>
>Open With
>
>Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file is". If
>the program you want is not on the list click other.
>
>
>
>
>
>He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some files i.e
>*.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
>directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and they
>seem OK
>
>Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the above msg
>with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel but
>then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
>
>If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open setup.exe.
>
>Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original directory
>and keep all he setting, will this help?
Yes...first, will SFC work from the Run box?
Tom
>
>I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing all
>his apps if possible.
>
>Thanks for any help
>
>
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"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d372b52.219723443@news.wolf...
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:00:00 GMT, "Lee" <email@email.com> wrote:
>
> >My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have
speeded
> >it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
> >programs he gets the following:
> >
> >A msg box opens which says:
> >
> >Open With
> >
> >Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file is". If
> >the program you want is not on the list click other.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some files
i.e
> >*.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
> >directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and they
> >seem OK
> >
> >Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the above
msg
> >with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel but
> >then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
> >
> >If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open setup.exe.
> >
> >Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original
directory
> >and keep all he setting, will this help?
>
> Yes...first, will SFC work from the Run box?
>
> Tom
Just run SFC, found a few probelms with files in the \programs sub dir, but
no windows file problems. Good call though, I have never seen the SFC
before. Did a reboot then I ran a scandisk after this and that didn't report
any disk problems, I think reinstall is beckoning. Unless there is anything
else I can try!
> >
> >I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing all
> >his apps if possible.
> >
> >Thanks for any help
> >
> >
>
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| Just found something else, I can run the apps from the run box OK but not
from shortcuts or start menu, does this shed anymore light? I have looked at
the file type associaiton for application and it has no association,
unfortunatly I don't have another Win98 PC to check this! Also can't edit
the association or create another with the same extention.
"Lee" <email@email.com> wrote in message
news:AHEZ8.8911$V23.64310492@news-text.cableinet.net...
>
> "Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3d372b52.219723443@news.wolf...
> > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:00:00 GMT, "Lee" <email@email.com> wrote:
> >
> > >My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have
> speeded
> > >it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
> > >programs he gets the following:
> > >
> > >A msg box opens which says:
> > >
> > >Open With
> > >
> > >Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file is".
If[co
lor=darkred]
> > >the program you want is not on the list click other.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some files
> i.e
> > >*.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
> > >directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and[/color]
they[
color=darkred]
> > >seem OK
> > >
> > >Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the[/color]
above
> msg
> > >with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel
but[c
olor=darkred]
> > >then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
> > >
> > >If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open[/color]
setup.exe. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > >Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original
> directory
> > >and keep all he setting, will this help?
> >
> > Yes...first, will SFC work from the Run box?
> >
> > Tom
>
> Just run SFC, found a few probelms with files in the \programs sub dir,[/color]
but
> no windows file problems. Good call though, I have never seen the SFC
> before. Did a reboot then I ran a scandisk after this and that didn't
report
> any disk problems, I think reinstall is beckoning. Unless there is
anything
> else I can try!
>
> > >
> > >I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing
all[c
olor=darkred]
> > >his apps if possible.
> > >
> > >Thanks for any help
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>[/color]
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| james martinez 2002-07-19, 9:25 pm |
| I would try to copy the win98 folder to you're HD then execute from there.
"Lee" <email@email.com> wrote in message
news:sjFZ8.8977$y53.64417855@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Just found something else, I can run the apps from the run box OK but not
> from shortcuts or start menu, does this shed anymore light? I have looked
at
> the file type associaiton for application and it has no association,
> unfortunatly I don't have another Win98 PC to check this! Also can't edit
> the association or create another with the same extention.
>
> "Lee" <email@email.com> wrote in message
> news:AHEZ8.8911$V23.64310492@news-text.cableinet.net...
> >
> > "Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3d372b52.219723443@news.wolf...
> > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:00:00 GMT, "Lee" <email@email.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >My dads PC was running slow so he defragged it which seems to have
> > speeded
> > > >it up, the Hd was very fragmented. However, now when he tries to run
> > > >programs he gets the following:
> > > >
> > > >A msg box opens which says:
> > > >
> > > >Open With
> > > >
> > > >Click the program you want to use to open the file "whatever file
is".
> If
> > > >the program you want is not on the list click other.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >He gets this with every program, however if he tries to open some
files
> > i.e
> > > >*.doc, *.xls, they open the app and work but he can't open the apps
> > > >directly. I have checked the file type associations in explorer and
> they
> > > >seem OK
> > > >
> > > >Also if he tries to open the properties of my computer he gets the
> above
> > msg
> > > >with RUNDLL32.EXE as the "whatever file is". I can open control panel
> but
> > > >then get the RUNDLL32.EXE error.
> > > >
> > > >If I try to re install windows from within win98 it can't open
> setup.exe.
> > > >
> > > >Can I reinstall windows from DOS via a boot disk into the original
> > directory
> > > >and keep all he setting, will this help?
> > >
> > > Yes...first, will SFC work from the Run box?
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> > Just run SFC, found a few probelms with files in the \programs sub dir,
> but
> > no windows file problems. Good call though, I have never seen the SFC
> > before. Did a reboot then I ran a scandisk after this and that didn't
> report
> > any disk problems, I think reinstall is beckoning. Unless there is
> anything
> > else I can try!
> >
> > > >
> > > >I am rather stuck at the moment and would like to avoid re installing
> all
> > > >his apps if possible.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for any help
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-24, 9:25 pm |
| circa Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:13:12 GMT, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Lee (email@email.com) said,
>
> Just found something else, I can run the apps from the run box OK but not
> from shortcuts or start menu, does this shed anymore light? I have looked at
> the file type associaiton for application and it has no association,
> unfortunatly I don't have another Win98 PC to check this! Also can't edit
> the association or create another with the same extention.
>
A colleague just experienced this at a client site. It turned out to
be the result of an application called Web Enhancer, and she found
out by using filemon from sysinternals.com.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
| |
| diamondÐan 2002-07-25, 7:25 am |
| In article <MPG.17a936deb95aa45989ffa@msnews.microsoft.com>, Laura A.
Robinson decided to open his mouth and remove all doubt by saying...
> circa Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:13:12 GMT, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Lee (email@email.com) said,
> >
> > Just found something else, I can run the apps from the run box OK but not
> > from shortcuts or start menu, does this shed anymore light? I have looked at
> > the file type associaiton for application and it has no association,
> > unfortunatly I don't have another Win98 PC to check this! Also can't edit
> > the association or create another with the same extention.
> >
> A colleague just experienced this at a client site. It turned out to
> be the result of an application called Web Enhancer, and she found
> out by using filemon from sysinternals.com.
>
> Laura
>
Typical...another freeware (and usually spyware) offering that
overstates it's usefulness and then because of either poor coding or
poor design, completely hoses the client system.
*from now on I'm only installing warez apps*
/jk
| |
| =mëanoldman= 2002-07-25, 7:25 am |
| http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
--
http://www.mcngp.tk
"diamondÐan" <diamondÐan@mcngp.tk> wrote in message
news:MPG.17a9bba4905f503989725@news.microsoft.com...
> In article <MPG.17a936deb95aa45989ffa@msnews.microsoft.com>, Laura A.
> Robinson decided to open his mouth and remove all doubt by saying...
>
> > circa Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:13:12 GMT, in
> > microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Lee (email@email.com) said,
> > >
> > > Just found something else, I can run the apps from the run box OK but
not[c
olor=darkred]
> > > from shortcuts or start menu, does this shed anymore light? I have[/color]
looked at[co
lor=darkred]
> > > the file type associaiton for application and it has no association,
> > > unfortunatly I don't have another Win98 PC to check this! Also can't[/color]
edit[
color=darkred]
> > > the association or create another with the same extention.
> > >
> > A colleague just experienced this at a client site. It turned out to
> > be the result of an application called Web Enhancer, and she found
> > out by using filemon from sysinternals.com.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> Typical...another freeware (and usually spyware) offering that
> overstates it's usefulness and then because of either poor coding or
> poor design, completely hoses the client system.
>
> *from now on I'm only installing warez apps*
> /jk[/color]
| |
|
| Interesting, no dodgy sw on this PC though, but food for thougth.
"Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.17a936deb95aa45989ffa@msnews.microsoft.com...
> circa Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:13:12 GMT, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Lee (email@email.com) said,
> >
> > Just found something else, I can run the apps from the run box OK but
not
> > from shortcuts or start menu, does this shed anymore light? I have
looked at
> > the file type associaiton for application and it has no association,
> > unfortunatly I don't have another Win98 PC to check this! Also can't
edit
> > the association or create another with the same extention.
> >
> A colleague just experienced this at a client site. It turned out to
> be the result of an application called Web Enhancer, and she found
> out by using filemon from sysinternals.com.
>
> Laura
> --
> One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
> -Tick, Strange Days
| |
| diamondÐan 2002-07-25, 8:25 am |
| In article <H%S%8.1074$Ft4.11000867@news-text.cableinet.net>, Lee
decided to open his mouth and remove all doubt by saying...
> Interesting, no dodgy sw on this PC though, but food for thougth.
>
Don't be so sure...many of these 'questionable' web downloads can be
pretty sneaky at concealing the fact that they were ever installed. They
may not appear in Add/Remove Programs and may not have a Start Menu
folder. Use a program like Ad-Aware to help find and remove these kind
of spyware apps, you'll likely be surprised as to what is on your pc.
> "Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.17a936deb95aa45989ffa@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > circa Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:13:12 GMT, in
> > microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Lee (email@email.com) said,
> > >
> > > Just found something else, I can run the apps from the run box OK but
> not
> > > from shortcuts or start menu, does this shed anymore light? I have
> looked at
> > > the file type associaiton for application and it has no association,
> > > unfortunatly I don't have another Win98 PC to check this! Also can't
> edit
> > > the association or create another with the same extention.
> > >
> > A colleague just experienced this at a client site. It turned out to
> > be the result of an application called Web Enhancer, and she found
> > out by using filemon from sysinternals.com.
> >
> > Laura
> > --
> > One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
> > -Tick, Strange Days
>
>
>
| |
| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-25, 10:25 am |
| circa Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:35:20 -0400, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, diamondÐan (diamondÐan@mcngp.tk)
said,
> > Interesting, no dodgy sw on this PC though, but food for thougth.
> >
>
> Don't be so sure...many of these 'questionable' web downloads can be
> pretty sneaky at concealing the fact that they were ever installed. They
> may not appear in Add/Remove Programs and may not have a Start Menu
> folder. Use a program like Ad-Aware to help find and remove these kind
> of spyware apps, you'll likely be surprised as to what is on your pc.
>
Exactly. And use the sysinternals tool; it's free.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
| |
|
| Apart from the fact that the pc in question has never been connected to any
network. But i do understand your overall point  . i am about to download
the sysinternal tool, to check the pcs that are connected.
Lee
"Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.17a9eab1abf6fd33989ffe@msnews.microsoft.com...
> circa Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:35:20 -0400, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, diamondÐan (diamondÐan@mcngp.tk)
> said,
> > > Interesting, no dodgy sw on this PC though, but food for thougth.
> > >
> >
> > Don't be so sure...many of these 'questionable' web downloads can be
> > pretty sneaky at concealing the fact that they were ever installed. They
> > may not appear in Add/Remove Programs and may not have a Start Menu
> > folder. Use a program like Ad-Aware to help find and remove these kind
> > of spyware apps, you'll likely be surprised as to what is on your pc.
> >
> Exactly. And use the sysinternals tool; it's free.
>
> Laura
> --
> One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
> -Tick, Strange Days
| |
| Laura A. Robinson 2002-07-25, 12:25 pm |
| circa Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:10:43 GMT, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Lee (email@email.com) said,
>
> Apart from the fact that the pc in question has never been connected to any
> network. But i do understand your overall point . i am about to download
> the sysinternal tool, to check the pcs that are connected.
Okay, if the pcs are "connected", how do you say that this machine
has never been on a network?
Besides, the tool has nothing to do with that. :-)
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
| |
|
|
"Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.17aa015068aa606598a003@msnews.microsoft.com...
> circa Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:10:43 GMT, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Lee (email@email.com) said,
> >
> > Apart from the fact that the pc in question has never been connected to
any
> > network. But i do understand your overall point . i am about to
download
> > the sysinternal tool, to check the pcs that are connected.
>
> Okay, if the pcs are "connected", how do you say that this machine
> has never been on a network?
The w98 PC is my Dad's: no nic, no modem. The pcs that are connected are my
w2k pc, my w2k+w98 dual boot test machine and my 2 * w2k \xchng2k\sql2k
servers.
> Besides, the tool has nothing to do with that. :-)
What does it do?
Lee
> Laura
> --
> One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
> -Tick, Strange Days
| |
| _Mike_ 2002-07-26, 4:25 am |
|
"Lee" <email@email.com> wrote in message
news:yi109.38$tS7.715907@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Besides, the tool has nothing to do with that. :-)
>
> What does it do?
http://www.systernals.com/ntw2k/source/filemon.shtml
Basically it is a tool that will tell you about every file that is
been accessed by your system (including sucess and faliure)
This with Regmon which does the same but on the registery,
are very useful trouble shooting tools.
Cheers
Mike
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