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| KScheler 2002-07-10, 1:43 pm |
| Anybody can find stuff to memorize. By using this, what have you actually learned? You're not only cheating yourself but giving the certs a bad rep. | |
| Zaraspook 2002-07-10, 7:07 pm |
| Are we suppose to be impressed? Anyone can cheat! Can you learn? | |
| Tech Ranger 2002-07-10, 8:13 pm |
| You're in the wrong place, Sundude. Go find a bunch of phonies to hang around with. Why do you even bother with IT, anyway? | |
| StevoC 2002-07-10, 11:29 pm |
| Thanks but no thanks. I've invested too much time at this point to look for an easy way out....and, I can actually work with the products!!! Big + for me.
I wounder if this guy is related to AceCertz??
AceCertz (claimed) certs:
Certifications: MCSE, MCSD, MCDBA, CCNA, CIW, CNE, A+, Net+, Checkpoint, CCIE, CCDA, CCDP, Inet+, Server+, Citrix, C | |
| pdevooght 2002-07-11, 3:11 am |
| is this worth a reply anyway... | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-07-11, 3:41 am |
| You said it was your material? Looks like a list of braindump sites to me, how can this be your material?
Did you revise? Did you learn? Did you find answers to questions that you had not encountered or had not yet experienced?
No, you have compiled a list of sites on a document, your parents must be proud.
Cambodia must be a pretty easy place to pass certifications, judging by the certifications you claim to hold.
Carry on looking for the quick route and the easy way out. The rest of us will work hard and deserve what we have achieved on our own mertis.
Why boast about a hollow victory using braindumps when all you will end up knowing are the questions to pass an exam.
Webmaster is in charge of advertising on here not you and we are the one's who help each other out and learn from each other.
You are neither so take it somewhere else.
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| cross36 2002-07-21, 12:28 pm |
| These new years in front of us, if we can't stop all this cheating. The IT profession will collapse and look like the fools.
Imagine hiring a paper person. Instead of the actual individual that sacrificed their time to prove themselves. | |
| Sexy Lexy 2002-07-21, 2:51 pm |
| I remember making a remark about a surgeon becoming qualified in the same manner (Hypothetical I know but it fits the situation) Would you really let someone like that operate on you?
Yet the IT industry is becoming a haven for the qualified inexperienced who see IT as well paid for the right qualifications so they take the easy route to certification and it is killing the industry.
For those of us who endure and persevere through study and hard work it is not only annoying but disheartening.
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| wbafrank 2002-07-21, 3:48 pm |
| The problem with a post like this is that 63 people have downloaded the attached document.
I think it is a vicious circle which we will never be able to stop ... this is where the vendor should come in and stamp out articles, documents and sites which sell documents like this. Until this happens employers will have doubts about people who hold these certificates and in some cases not employ them unless of course they can actually prove that they have the required experience to do the job. | |
| Asmodeus 2002-07-21, 4:20 pm |
| @ Cheaters
ahhh XXXX of all....
When I startet Certification hunting I used such books and now I have to learn this whole things again. If you just wan`t the title so do on like you do now but you can take your transcript and wip off your XXX with it, because it doesn`t count. When a company is hireing you they will ask you several questions of thinks like group policies or RRAS or just simple File Share Questions. If you lern out of that shit you do now you won`t be able to answer this questions and the company will say good by to you. Such books I`ve read the first 3 exams are quite good for supporting some problems, because there wehre several examples of action you have to do if this and that goes wrong, but if you use it for preparing to an exam you will maybe pass but it`s cheeting. Nobdy will care about this because you only cheet yourself.
You will see the day will come you just wan`t to be proud of your passed exams and you know that you are able to do things you have learnd in theoretical, but you will also recognize that you have to learn a lot in praxis beliefe me. And if you just start learning cheetsheets you will never be able to do that in practical because you don`t know it. Have you never ask you the question " Why the Hel Have I lrearnd all that stuff, it wasn`t necersary for the exam" Maybe it wasn`t necersary for the exam to pass but it was DAMM NACERSARRY TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTRATE a win2k network !!!!
So stop this shit and start learning like every body does if he wan`t to be a good sysad or somehing like that.
Everybody will lough to you if you can`t answer simple questions they ask.
For example I know some cheeters and they even don`t know the different between WINS and DNS an they have passed 70-210, 70-215 and this is the greatest shit tey have also passed 70-216. Tey would place a gateway between 2 computers to connect them but they can`t explayn you why and even what a gateway is......
Or for example I ask them what would they do if they have net BUI running on their computer and something is worng and it doesn`t function. They say to me they woul PING THE OTHER HOST *lol* I just laught nearly one hour about this answer and tehy didn`t know why....
If you wan`t to be like them than go on like you do in the momen`t..... | |
| cross36 2002-07-21, 4:58 pm |
| Frank you're right. But why are these vendors not fighting. Meaning Cisco CompTia, MS etc.
Is it really a waste fo their money. Or they are just worrying about their products and what the NASDAQ is producing for their benefits? | |
| wbafrank 2002-07-21, 5:10 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by cross36
But why are these vendors not fighting.
IMHO I think why they do nothing is because they can let future employers weed out the waste. This does not cost them anything and they still collect the exam fee monies. | |
| Asmodeus 2002-07-22, 4:31 am |
| But look at this forum for instance it`s surrounded by banners like CHeet-Sheet, certifisky and so on. If somebody tries to change a bit of this situation, delete this damm banners and take some one from good prepare guilds like transcenders. | |
| pdevooght 2002-07-22, 4:55 am |
| I think we, the proved certs, should simply be confident in our skills and just let the 'virtual paper chasers' believe that they're making a career out of cheating. After all, when you start a job, only then you really start to prove your knowledge. And if the employer finds out that it doesn't correspond to what you pout on your cv, he will not be willing to keep you.
Sure, even this site is listing some cheat links, so what? It's up to you to decide...
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