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Which is better MCSE OR CCNP
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| I am junior college graduate with an associate degree in computer info.sytem.I Want to transfer to 4 year college which offers BBA.with concentration in either MCSE,CCNP (Network Admin).These are classes to prepare me 4 these certifications and also add to my BBA degree.I wanna be a Net.work Admin.My question is Which of the 2 certifications has a better future for me,easier to pass and has more chances of geting a job (without experience).Please advice me.
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| onoski 2003-08-26, 5:42 pm |
| That's a challenging question you asked but however, MCSE would give you a good grounding on the basics of networks and it's infrastructor but it is not easy either way. On the other hand the CCNP is much difficult in terms of networking routers, switches, LAN and WAN and complexe network maintenance and troubleshooting. I hope this info would help you to decide. Best wishes in your I.T. career quest One last info the I.T. field is presently experiencing serious downturns and a certification is no guarantees especially without experience. So whilst your learning try and get as much hands on as possible and study to learn and understand the subject matter as a certification without these criteria's would be detrimental to your progress in this strong competitive fields of ours filled with geeks that know I.T. inside out. Keep learning as what you know today is obsolete tomorrow in the I.T. field. Knowledge is power. Play like a game to win, win and win. Cheerio mate. IMHO from the IT Hussler | |
| Bravesfan 2003-08-26, 8:44 pm |
| Don't take this the wrong way but I don't think a Bachelors of Arts w/MCSE concentration(???) holds much water. It doesn't sound like a real degree program. No offense, but my biochem degree was a hell of a lot harder than my MCSE's or CCNA. It's not even a close comparison. I think sometimes that companies want to see a real degree and not something from www.onlinecollege.com or something like that.
I would get your Bachelor of Science in Computer Science or Information Systems and then get an MCSE or CCNA if you wish. Unless you're currently working in a NOC or acting as an Engineer - a CCNP w/o experience would be a huge waste of your time. Here's an example -
I basically memorized several CCNA books several years ago and passed the test in 1.5 weeks - i think it was my sickest cert accomplishment to date. Then i had the opportunity to take a hands-on CCNA lab at a community college so i took the course. I was like a fish out of water - never having configured an actual router before. Trust me - those little simulators are not the same. That put my ego in check real fast, i didn't have a clue what was going on at first.
Bottom line --> get your degree and get a foot in the door somewhere before you spend unnecessary $$ on certs that won't be on benefit for you. | |
| bloodshotx 2003-08-27, 10:03 am |
| I am currently Taking a degree similar to this. I think that employeers care if you have a degree but as long as it is IT/computer related it doesn't matter. Because, if you have the skills and experience then your degree is something that they just fall back on.
I would personally go the CCNP route. I am doing the same. These courses will help you understand and get real world experience configuring cisco routers.
I agree that you should be getting experience outside of schooling.
I don't agree with online classes. But if you degree is accredited just like mine then its an official degree. | |
| HappyTom 2003-09-04, 2:10 pm |
| I think that the college thing is great but I want to point out that you can get a Jr admin job (MCSE) with out much experience but 50 cents and a CCNP can get you a cup of coffee with out experience. Routers and Switches are a Big deal in networks and employers do not allow anyone to touch them with out experience. If you want to get your foot into the door with certs then get the MCSE, this will help you get your first (entry lvl) job. | |
| onoski 2003-09-05, 3:06 am |
| Well said HappyTom, it's only that the MCSE has lost it's credibility owing to braindumpers and the like's that can't even troubleshoot a basic PC problem. | |
| Kasor 2003-09-08, 10:19 am |
| They are different exams in different specification.
U can be CCNA and CCNP without any cert on MS product. U are still OK.
U can be MCSA, MCSE or CCNP, and you can still be OK.
Depend on your career goals and job requirement, find the one that fit you the best. | |
| Teck Shark 2003-09-08, 2:36 pm |
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Originally posted by onoski
Well said HappyTom, it's only that the MCSE has lost it's credibility owing to braindumpers and the like's that can't even troubleshoot a basic PC problem.
onoski,
The MCSE hasn't lost it's credibility. Nor has any other certs. But they certainly aren't the easy ticket to a job that they used to be. Because of braindumpers, employers need to screen candidates a little better. It you cheated on a certification then you most likely cheat on other things as well. An individual like this probably fabricated most of the information on his/her resume. A good interview should weed most of these charaters out right away. When matched with experience, integrity, and determination, an MCSE or CCNP are an asset to an individuals career. | |
| Carl_Docklands 2003-09-08, 4:56 pm |
| You will need an MCSE these days to even got a look in. Do your CCNP, but do it after the MCSE. |
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