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bloodshotx

2003-05-14, 3:57 pm

Hello all,

This is my first post ! I've been reading awhile and I was wondering if you guys would give me some advice on my current situation.

First off I am 22, from Michigan. I have an associates degree in Computer Networking Technologies. My certifications are listed on the left.

My problem: I have the option of either doing 3 years at a huge University to get my general degree in CIS. Or I have the option of attending Davenport University, which is somewhat like strayer. It will give me credit towards my degree for my MCSE. All classes are course room work and not online. It will only take me half the time to get my bachelors this route.


The problem is A. It wont transfer worth crap into a big university. B. It is rather expensive.

The good thing is I dont have to take 5 years of schooling to get my CIS degree. I could be done with my bach. in BA within a year and half.


What's everyones thoughts on this? I have been working in the field since I was 17. Tons of experience and I will be getting tons more certifications. They also do offer a Masters degree in Information Systems Management.

Some people in the previous post stated that HR recruiters threw away resumes of technicial related schools. Would this be that bad with my experience, certifications?


Thanks,

Jeff

PS. Again I would recieve all hands on courses for my CCNP and all networking/business related courses.
Kasor

2003-05-14, 4:53 pm

Recommend 4 yr college education...

CS or IS.. if u want guarantee job. go for EE and CE...
brianferry

2003-05-14, 5:05 pm

Does a degree guarantee you a job these days?
StevoC

2003-05-15, 8:59 am

quote:
Originally posted by brianferry
Does a degree guarantee you a job these days?


I don't know if it will gaurantee a job, but I believe it:

1. betters your chances at finding one
2. opens the door to a wider range of
opportunites in differnt fields

I say if you have the opportunity to do the traditional univ. then go that route.

Just my opinion.
bloodshotx

2003-05-15, 9:35 am

**I don't know if it will gaurantee a job, but I believe it:

1. betters your chances at finding one
2. opens the door to a wider range of
opportunites in differnt fields

I say if you have the opportunity to do the traditional univ. then go that route.



The problem is that I will be spending the same amount of money going the traditional univ way and it will take 3 years. Thats 5 years to get a 4 year degree going full time for the most part. F that. My mcse2000 will be worthless by then.

I have worked at 5 different companies. Most of the network administrators I have worked for don't even have degrees. I'm not saying that I want to confine my life to just network admin positions. But a bach in Business administration (MCSA,CNP) focused would really help. Employeers don't give a crap if you got a 3.5 gpa and graduated from the highest universities.


What matters is can you go into an existing network infrustructure, diagnose, trouble shoot, upgrade, and administer it.

No biology, psyc, foreign language, english, chemistry class will prepare you for this.

To me a degree is just a peice of paper that shows that you went the extra 4 years beyond high school. It improves your overall knowledge and way of life, but it doesn't prepare you for a specific computer career. IMHO a CIS degree in programming won't help me administer, and manage a network.

/rant
sdesb

2003-05-15, 10:49 am

Well, I got an Associates degree in Accounting from a community college, a BS in Business Information Systems from the University of Phoenix (2 year accelerated-not online) and several certifications. I wouldn't personally change anything did. Having the diverse backgrounds has paid off for me in a pretty big way. I sit in meetings at the highest level and I can also crimp cables, install upgrades and write a little code.

I think you should diversify your education just like your stock portfolio. There is so much more to information systems than tweaking code or making a computer run well. You need to be able to understand the business that you work for ina addition to the technical side.

To be honest, after that initial job not many really care where your degree came from-its just the fact that you set the goals and followed through with them. That is what counts.
bloodshotx

2003-05-15, 1:46 pm

Thanks for all the advice everyone!

I have been thinking about it for over 5 months now on what I should do.

I'm still not 100% sure but I think I will attend davenport and get my Bachelor of Business Administration in Networking/CCNP.


Jeff
Kasor

2003-05-18, 9:23 pm

U only can get B.A on business Adminstration, other thing they told u.. It is useless.

There are no such thing as Business Admin on Networking.

Job guarantee only if u have good GPA and experience...
bloodshotx

2003-05-19, 9:08 am

I'm Confused on why you think a business administration degree is worthless.

http://www.davenport.edu/du/current...workingccnp.htm

This is the program I am thinking of taking.

If you don't want to read it it is:
Computer Networking/CCNP
Bachelor of Business Administration - 121 credits

Could you please explain why you think its worthless? Also, I have had 5 IT related jobs and not once have they asked me for my GPA.
sdesb

2003-05-19, 9:17 am

I personally think a bachelor degree is key. It has made all of the difference in the world in my life. I got it a little late-fought it for a while because I had lots of experience. I got my bachelors in 1999 and was able to double my salary since then and I could not have the job I have now with out the BS. I doubled the salary by making a move-not just a raise.

I agree somewhat on GPA. TYpically once you have experience they do not ask but my son just graduated from a highly reputable technical university with a BS in electrical engineering with a gpa of 2.9999 or something silly like that. He has found that they ask for GPA on first jobs and if you don't have a 3.0 you get kicked out of the resume sysytem automatically. Now I don't believe there is a tremendous difference in 2.999 and 3.0 but - hey computer knows best.
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