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Where's the money?
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| Mesen 2003-11-20, 10:12 am |
| Currently I work as a desktop support personnel. I've been doing this for about four years now. I ready to make a change. When I put my resume out in the market I can get offers for other desktop support positions with no problem paying mid to high 50's. But this is not what I want to do anymore. I'm kinda getting old and running to replace a mouse is not something you would like to tell you kids what you do at work;-) I mean I get some fun out of repairing a computer but in a nut shell my job is boring. I have a round knowledge of LAN's and wan's but I want to go where the money is. I would like to specialize because as you know desktop support specialist are jack of all trades master of none. This is probably why in my IT infrastructure we are paid the least but yet we do about more or the same amount of work as everyone else. So what I need is your opinion on where the money is. Is it in Oracle database, Cisco, MCSE, or Telecom. I want to know that if I learn my new area of IT then I should not have a problem finding work. I not all for certs because those who claim to be CCIE, MCSE or whatever can just you brain dumps and not know anything. "I know, I've interviewed many who had no clue on what they cert really meant." But any advice or words would help.
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| jarbob69 2003-11-20, 10:47 am |
| Do you have any server experience, or router or switch experience? If not, I would get some hands-on training (be it classroom based or home self-study with hands-on) and maybe go for the MCSA or MCSE. With your experience and demonstrated knowledge I would think you could land a LAN admin job, and move up from there. | |
| Mesen 2003-11-20, 10:57 am |
| But now we are moving from win2k to win 2003. Where would I start? | |
| onoski 2003-11-20, 11:12 am |
| Mesen, I think you should be grateful that you have a job in IT regardless. There's nothing like doing what you love doing especiallly working with computers huh! | |
| Mesen 2003-11-20, 11:22 am |
| I'm sorry, but I was not raised in believing to just be grateful and not ask for anymore. I'm a go getter. Yes, I'm happy for having a job to pay the bills and do other things but don't tell me I should be happy and not look to do anything else. Yeah, like I said my job is boring and I want some excitement. Not to mention a better paying position that concentrated in one area. | |
| onoski 2003-11-20, 11:51 am |
| Did not mean to offend, thanks point taken and best wishes in your career endeavours | |
| curiousgeorge 2003-11-20, 3:55 pm |
| If ur a go-getter, why aren't you in management yet? Four years in the same position doesn't sound like an effective go-getter. If you don't like ur job, try to get promoted to take on additional responsibilities. | |
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| Look curiousgeorge,
I'm not trying to get in to a debate with what I'm doing at the current time. If you must know, management is not something I'm interested in ;-) I like to get paid overtime and at the end of the day don't have to worry about a team. I've turned down supervisory position for help desk many times in the past. My four years were not with the same firm. Why didn't you asked me a question like 'if you are a go getter are you open to being management?' Instead of that statement you made. So my question to the group was 'where are the high paying IT jobs?' If you are not going to answer the question buzz off! ;-O I'm not trying to get into a debate about what I have! | |
| joesteff 2003-11-20, 4:12 pm |
| I hear Security and Management positions are the highest paying right now.  | |
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| Thank you Joe! Somebody understands where I'm coming from. Everyone is quick to jump to conclusions or quick to have criticism. | |
| curiousgeorge 2003-11-22, 2:23 am |
| Mesen,
I WAS telling you where the high paying jobs are. They're in management.
If you want to get paid more, you have to take on more responsibility.
You say you're a go getter, but you don't want to climb up the ranks because it requires more responsibility. That's not a go getter in my book.
If you don't like the answer... don't ask the question. | |
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| Cool, but I disagree with the 'only' high paying jobs are in management. You are right, I don't want to manage someone else's empire! This does not mean I'm not a go getter. I'm working on my own business/company but I figured while I'm in IT I should make as much money as possible. But you need to be clear in your statements because everything is relative. Someone is a go getter on objects or things they want to get done and they do it. Management is not something I'm interested in 'So does this mean I'm not a go getter?' If I wanted to be in management and was laid back then I can see your statement.
Thanks for the help anyway. I got my answer already. Truly, I understand that everyone has an opionion and no one really knows.
Thanks everyone | |
| onoski 2003-11-23, 6:56 am |
| Good to see no flames, a matured feedback from a matured poster | |
| Kasor 2003-11-23, 12:05 pm |
| I agree all high pay job at the management (IT) area.... If u are experience worker on networking, security, database management, developer or programmer. U always get good...
What is bad for IT area right now? Entry level position. | |
| Mesen 2003-11-23, 12:13 pm |
| Thanks | |
| ruscorp 2003-11-23, 12:21 pm |
| I would have to say dentistry. I almost knocked my dentist out when I got my bill.
Hey buddy, I got news for you! I'm NOT an insurance company! | |
| ANDRONDA 2003-11-23, 9:31 pm |
| The "money" is in design and implementation of systems. | |
| DSComputers 2003-11-23, 10:13 pm |
| Drugs, sell them to get rich quickly.
As far as IT, I'm not making the money yet so I'll just smile and nod to all the above posts on where you get the big bucks.
My observation so far is this:
entry level (helpdesk/pc support) - start around 20k and don't expect more than 35k in most places.
Network Admin should be 10k-40k more than entry level
Database admin about 10k more than network admin
Specializations (cissp, ccie, etc...) seem to make crazy money, up to and over over 100k (which you'll lose 1/2 of to taxes if your not carful in the USA)
Just observations from talking to various people in the industry and searching various job listing websites. No proof, no statistics, just opinions from observations. | |
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| ruscorp 2003-11-24, 11:01 am |
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Originally posted by DSComputers
Drugs, sell them to get rich quickly.
Thanks for that tip!
We here at Federal "Shizzle" Prison in Jersey thank you. | |
| Luchnia 2003-11-25, 5:42 am |
| WOW....can I have your 50K job? Sheeesh...all I can seem to muster up around here is a call center environment and most under 35-40k and I am one of the most committed and dedicated workers around. Always studious, get high marks from managment, kind, the first to arrive, and usually the last to leave!
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| What part of the US are you in? | |
| Carl_Docklands 2003-11-25, 3:27 pm |
| The money? here is my 50pence on which are the top paying jobs right now in London.
IT Programme Managers - £40k-£1m+
C++ FX Tool Programmers - £50k-£250k
Software Architecture - £40k-£100k
Infrasctructure Architecture - £40k-£150k
Security - £30k-£80k
SAP Middleware - £30k-£80k
I only pay attention to the permanent market mind you  | |
| kmb40 2003-11-26, 10:52 am |
| Mesen, I made a similar post here some time ago. All I can say is it depends on how the market is where you are unless you want to relocate. Where I am its all security management and databases. Those are the highest paying jobs. As stated in other post there always seems to be an abundance of management jobs. All be it ive worked for some managers that had teaching degrees for heavens sake and could not tell you a thing about IT. I would also like to say there are jobs out there that are non-management with salaries that are equal to or exceed the managment jobs. Most have lots of experience in one area though. Good luck. | |
| Luchnia 2003-11-26, 1:35 pm |
| I am located near Richmond and there are some jobs, but there are a great many applicants for each position. They want you to do everything including flying the space shuttle and all for under $10.00 per hour!
OK, I am being a bit sarcastic, but they are rather unrealistic and the competition is fierce here. Jobs have been tough for about a year or so around here. Things are looking better now, but pay is still very low. | |
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| Yeah really, where in the heck do they give 50k a year for help desk work? With only 4 years experience even. Ya aint gonna get much more than 30-35 in the Midwest for help desk. I know that for a fact. | |
| tweaker 2003-12-02, 12:28 pm |
| most of these people are struggling just to keep their heads above water in this field. Their criticizing because not everyone has job offers in the 50k area that they have the leisure to turn down because its "boring". And I don't understand why your asking where the money is at, when your contradicting yourself by saying money isn't important...otherwise you wouldn't nit-pick about overpaying jobs that require no skill beyond a base cert.
get back to me when you have real problems to deal with | |
| MistyRing 2003-12-05, 2:20 pm |
| There's another way to look at this. Forget where the money is now because by the time you get there everyone else will have too and it won't pay that great any more. If you want to make really big money try predicting what's going to be the next big thing. Getting into that field could be a little harder but not impossible.
VOIP is my prediction. | |
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| curiousgeorge 2003-12-06, 1:10 am |
| The true big money is working for yourself.
The only problem is you can't blame the boss for all your woes. | |
| DivxGuy 2003-12-07, 4:15 am |
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OK, I am being a bit sarcastic, but they are rather unrealistic and the competition is fierce here.
They are being realistic--aggregate IT employment in the U.S. is down by about an eighth from its 2001 peak.
It's an employers market now, and probably going to stay that way. The latest news I've seen is that U.S. corporate spending on offshoring will double this year. That means that most of the boost in IT budgets is going to places like India.
I know you wanted to hear that. | |
| afalbrig 2003-12-10, 12:36 am |
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Originally posted by DivxGuy
It's an employers market now, and probably going to stay that way. The latest news I've seen is that U.S. corporate spending on offshoring will double this year. That means that most of the boost in IT budgets is going to places like India.
I know you wanted to hear that. [/B]
I just got done fixing a computer belonging to a guy who spent hours on the phone with those wonderful people from India. One of the help desk droids was a guy who kept asking him to repeat, with long gaps in the conversation. And wouldn't you know, it was pay by the minute support!
You know, these clever CEOs who think they're saving so much money so they can buy more yachts and Hummers are really going to get what they paid for in the long term. It's time for consumers to vote with their pocketbooks. | |
| Papiya 2003-12-10, 7:36 am |
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Originally posted by afalbrig
I just got done fixing a computer belonging to a guy who spent hours on the phone with those wonderful people from India. One of the help desk droids was a guy who kept asking him to repeat, with long gaps in the conversation. And wouldn't you know, it was pay by the minute support!
You know, these clever CEOs who think they're saving so much money so they can buy more yachts and Hummers are really going to get what they paid for in the long term. It's time for consumers to vote with their pocketbooks.
Could you please repeat dat more shlowly shir? I couldn't qvite undershtand you. | |
| irs2k3 2003-12-10, 8:15 am |
| Hi papiya | |
| Papiya 2003-12-10, 8:30 am |
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Originally posted by irs2k3
Hi papiya
Hi IRS. |
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