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| ricosr 2003-01-12, 10:25 am |
| I live in the Upper Manhattan area. I am study for my A+ Certification, I would gladly Volunteer my time in exchange for hands on experiecne. I am looking for experiecne in Windows 2000, Windows NT, and Network Administer; or any other experiecne deem necessary.
At the moment I work as a computer operator with limited access to the tech part.
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| Very difficult time to look for a job or you can try your local volunteering org.
But I doubt that any open. | |
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| When I finished University, I got a job as a trainee programmer on the worst salary ever! I made more money delivering pizza's and that’s no exaggeration! But... the job did give me the experience I needed to get a job for a large firm as a PC support tech. 6 years on, I'm now Network Manager... don't give up!
If it's experience for a cert you need then my advise would be to set-up a small home lab. If money is an issue, then are you able to play with Windows 2000 server on just 1 PC?
Or, move to the UK... it seems that there are more IT jobs here than the US! | |
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| It is not easy to get a job or experience in IT in the UK, as u said l9nux, look at me still trying almost 2years now.
Any advice or help from l9nux i will appreciate it.
Thanks. | |
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| Most people I know that have gained the most experience in the IT job market have / are working for a particular type of company.
A friend of mine worked for a non-IT firm as a Unix Admin, it was a building repair firm. He was there 4 years and on an average salary. He then got offered a job at Sun Microsystems who were offering nearly double what he was on. He took the job and hated it, worked twice as hard and wished he could go back to his previous firm. He told me that he thought a big name like Sun would be great to work for. Maybe it is, but it wasn't for him.
I believe that going for jobs at IT based companies is far more difficult as the majority of their staff are techie based, and have strict requirements. However, most the people I know that are doing well in IT, work for non-IT companies (myself included).
The company I work for has an IT department of 10 staff, but I get so much experience, from building a new computer room (spec'ing air conditioning, flooring, purchasing and installing Compaq racks etc.) They've paid for my MCSE track, I get to build Compaq servers, play with Unix, project manage and deploy products like Active Directory, McAfee EPO...
The point I'm trying to make is that I have never done any of this before, but being in a non-IT firm the management trust that I know what I'm doing and help me gain that experience. At the end of the day, I'm not competing with anyone else there as it's not an IT firm.
It's a very grey area, but I'm beginning to realise that the best experience to be gained isn't from IT companies, but rather small to medium (growing) non-IT firms.
I'd be interested to see if anyone else agree's or disagree's with me? | |
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| Its true. My first job that actually worked with computers was actually a retail company. I wasn't even the IT department. i was the AV technician. But from there I got to do some hands on with setting up printers and network shares, replacing some hard drives, basic maintenance such as defragging and using disk cleanup. Now I'm a PC Support Specialist which actually pays 4 times as much but takes about half the amount of work. | |
| darthw 2003-01-15, 6:31 pm |
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It's a very grey area, but I'm beginning to realise that the best experience to be gained isn't from IT companies, but rather small to medium (growing) non-IT firms.
In my experience this has been true. I worked for two IT outsourcing companies before my current position in IT for a manufacturing company. Although I worked at non-IT firms while working in outsourcing, the contracts were usually limited what I, as a tech, was permitted to do, which severely limited what I could get my hands on to learn. In my current job actually working for the non-IT company, I have my hands in a lot of different things. | |
| revcop 2003-01-15, 7:45 pm |
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Originally posted by Kasor
Very difficult time to look for a job or you can try your local volunteering org.
Nothing like having experience helps with scoring a job but I have to agree with Kasor here. | |
| RATTLERMAN 2003-01-16, 8:46 am |
| I work in a school system and at first I didnt think too much of the position. But I do so much around here that now I have some very marketable skills.
If you can deal with a building full of teachers you can deal with any end user.
Also inplementing software for educational purposes is similar to implementing software for business purposes.
In the end I agree with those that say work in a non-IT company .
The money is not great but the experience plus my benefits more than make up for the lack of money | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2003-01-16, 8:46 am |
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Originally posted by RATTLERMAN
I work in a school system and at first I didnt think too much of the position. But I do so much around here that now I have some very marketable skills.
If you can deal with a building full of teachers you can deal with any end user.
Also inplementing software for educational purposes is similar to implementing software for business purposes.
In the end I agree with those that say work in a non-IT company .
The money is not great but the experience plus my benefits more than make up for the lack of money
I agree with that. |
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