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Questions On Landing A Job
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| jumpoff 2002-12-30, 10:50 pm |
| what is the easiest and plentyfull it job to get?
help desk? im really just looking for a job that makes at least $40-45k a year to start off with. what are the certs i should go after to land a decent job to start off with. i plan to get just about every cert but right now im working on my a+, server and network certs. | |
| onoski 2002-12-31, 3:13 am |
| This is not a good time especially considering the current IT market and worldwide economic downturn.
But nontheless just keep studying as well as keep applying for jobs that you feel comfortable in. Best wishes and have a great new year in 2003 | |
| aslee0 2002-12-31, 11:05 am |
| If you have the time and the money, I would suggest going to University...
Employers want to see that you can finish a LONG term goal. Not one of these certs you can study for in 2 weeks and pass. (which I am guilty of) The degree not only shows you know a fundamental knowledge of the field you studied but also shows that you have determination, the ability to succeed, and a willingness to see through your commitments.
Of course, Experience is probably THE most important, then education i.e. University, then Certs.
The ONLY reason I dont value Certs that much is because I see how easy it is to get one. It virtually requires nothing but the abiltity to read, retain what you read, and regurgitate what you've read. I'll be taking my CID exam in a week to get my CCDP ( which I only decided to do for fun ) after only studying for 2 weeks.
I've spent about 2 weeks on CCNA and CCDA and then another 3 weeks to get my FOUNDATIONS 2.0. Which I admit did help me land my 1st Networking job. But only after my degree did they look at my certs...
Once I landed my 1st job, my learning grew exponentially and thats why experience is so critical.
As far as "easiest and most plentiful" ... I cant really say... My advice, the "Easy way" is worth nothing.... anyone can do the "easy way" its the People who strive to do the difficult things that succeed.
Good Luck! | |
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| Salary shall not be a issue at this time for low level job.
Having one is the key | |
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| "im really just looking for a job that makes at least $40-45k a year to start off with. "
Oh damn, you almost want nothing!
Like everyone said, you would be really lucky if you got anything close to that with your current skills.
Even some of my friends with college degrees in computer science are not getting that for entry level.
Only one of them who is a really good programmer got a job at HP fresh out of college witha $60k/yr salary.
The rest are getting from $25k to about $35k
(that's with college degree, and at least a year WORKING experience in computers).
I have other friends who recently graduated and are having a hard time finding a JOB. One from Boston University works at a Super Market.
Another out of HARVARD, working for Macy's.
Another out of UCLA, working at a library.
.... the list goes on ...
This is in California (los angeles), but it's not any much different elsewhere right now cuz of the economy. | |
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| Certification will not help you to get entry job unless you have a very high level certifications and many experience. Remember you are not the ONLY one on the market. It is difficult.
Also, if your friends are graduated from UCLA, Harvard and Boston U without an job.
They might not did well on the school.
Specially, a Harvard!!! Are you sure? | |
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| It's not necessarily that they did not do good in school. But more than anything, they just part-time jobs not related to their major and did not think in looking for a job related to their career prior to graduating.
So, now they have graduated, and realize companies are not necessarily just waiting for you as soon as you receive your diploma.
Had they done internships, or had started looking a year in advance, i'm sure they would be better off right now.
Also, while a degree is important, companies dont just want to see the degree. They also want to see WHAT you have done related to your career .... whether it is part-time job, internship, projects, volunteering, etc. etc. | |
| jackiechan 2003-01-03, 11:04 am |
| If money is important go where demand is. Demand for I.T skills is a joke. It is oversupplied. Go to another field and prosper. | |
| chodan 2003-01-03, 8:24 pm |
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Originally posted by jumpoff
what is the easiest and plentyfull it job to get?
help desk? im really just looking for a job that makes at least $40-45k a year to start off with. what are the certs i should go after to land a decent job to start off with. i plan to get just about every cert but right now im working on my a+, server and network certs.
The days of asking for $40-45K a year to start off with are over at least for awhile.
That is without experience.
Thats why they are called entry level positions.
Pay your due's like everyone else has to and in 2 or 3 years you might be making 45K or higher.
But noone will hand you that kind of pay without some experience (a couple years)to back it up,especially in my home state. | |
| CoffeeFreak 2003-01-04, 10:49 am |
| i agree with everyone, dude there is no way someone with just a+, no degree and no experience is going to get any IT job, expecially asking 40-50k,,,
that's what happen back in 98,99 & 2000, no more.. |
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