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| newone 2002-07-08, 7:56 pm |
| What's wrong with IT jobs? Where are those entry level position? Shall I need give up? | |
| dumbut 2002-07-08, 9:26 pm |
| everything is wrong with IT right now, my advice is forget about this industry, it is not worth the time and effort to try to break into it.
I think you should give up, take look at those job sites, there is nothing there, why bother to struggle | |
| Boulware5 2002-07-08, 9:37 pm |
| Looking for something entry level myself. It's not easy. | |
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| uoparah 2002-07-09, 10:04 am |
| on where else to look for employment opportunities besides the web and the NY Times? Because its painfully obvious that both sources are absolutely useless. I have thought of posting my resume on the sites of Fortune 500's, and I have done a few, but I have no idea how much they actually look at these sites.
I am a BS in CS, SCSA 7, with just under 2 years tech support exp. I cant even find a lead ops job... | |
| Shadow_D 2002-07-09, 2:46 pm |
| I'm always checking the web and local papers, it looks like you need to move to Fl or TX if you want a job. | |
| DivxGuy 2002-07-09, 4:40 pm |
| IMO it is wise for almost anyone looking to start a new career to steer clear of I.T. There are many other fields either much more lucrative, or about to become much more lucrative, especially as retirement rates increase and labor shortages develop (there will never be a labor shortage in I.T., because it is so easy to import talent).
RD (unemployed over a year) | |
| RichardJW 2002-07-09, 7:10 pm |
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on where else to look for employment opportunities besides the web and the NY Times? Because its painfully obvious that both sources are absolutely useless. I have thought of posting my resume on the sites of Fortune 500's, and I have done a few, but I have no idea how much they actually look at these sites.
I know the feeling. But maybe you should be looking at local opportunities more? A quick stroll around town has at least provided me with the opportunity of a couple of job applications. Okay, people go on and on about this - you need to network. It's an old cliche yes - but it is so because it is true. The best way to get a job right now is through the back door. Don't waste one minute of your time on those sites. Try to meet people. Get out of the virtual rut. I mean it. The internet is not a good place to secure yourself a position. It might look like it is but appearances are deceptive. | |
| DivxGuy 2002-07-09, 7:23 pm |
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The internet is not a good place to secure yourself a position.
All the positions I've had since '97 were obtained via contacts made through the Internet. It has only stopped working due to the downturn, and that is because almost no companies are hiring at the moment.
Somehow, I doubt many development positions are filled via the "back door", although I'm sure a lot of lesser positions are.
RD | |
| RichardJW 2002-07-09, 7:40 pm |
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Somehow, I doubt many development positions are filled via the "back door", although I'm sure a lot of lesser positions are.
Fine. But don't kid yourself because that is what you are presently headed for. Like it or not, it is that or cashiering at the local lumber yard. Now come on, it is as plain as day to you that noone is hiring. The choices are therefore bleak. Go get your degree if you want - let's see them hire you. Stay out of work if you want - and let's see your hard earned savings vanish away - I know mine have and I've been unemployed almost as long as you. These corporations are doing one thing and one thing only, and that is laying off. Like hell that means they're hiring anyone. The very best hope you got is a software house with a sudden increase in contracts - yes, this is still happening - who need to hire on that basis. I'm going to try next for positions in Government departments because a lot of their software is quasi prehistoric - I mean the people contracted to upgrade their systems. | |
| DivxGuy 2002-07-09, 8:03 pm |
| I've been plagued by lack of a degree ever since I started in this field (even in the good times, most employers demand one), so it makes sense that if I have any plans, however wildly unrealistic they are, of trying to keep this career viable, a degree is a logical step.
Working for peanuts in a pressure-cooker job (all that is available at the moment) is something I wouldn't wish on anyone. At least being a part-time cashier means no pressure, and leaving work behind when I go home.
RD | |
| uoparah 2002-07-09, 10:46 pm |
| Mr. DivxGuy, you are the only one I've seen who's gripes have come as numerous as mine (moreso, since youre here more)...so, what exactly do you intend to do, since it seems obvious that you wont stay in IT? Is it possible that you will work somewhere and try to go to school part time and get a degree IN ANOTHER FIELD???
Personally, I'm going to either a grad program in business/economics, or I'll go to law school (or both!!!!). At least with these, there's no way I'll ever be out of work again doing SOMETHING...the computers will always look good on the resume, but I cant base my retirement savings ont this shit. | |
| DivxGuy 2002-07-13, 12:26 pm |
| I don't know...it's hard, because I.T. is what I know, but the more I look at it, the more it is plainly apparent that it will be several years, if ever, that I can land a position at a level similar to what I was at prior to being laid off last year. And I really didn't make all that much, $55K max (with bonus) and 2 weeks vacation, after over 7 years total paid work experience, with most of that in dev (much less than the scam ads on this site proclaim that the average MCSE makes).
The only alternative to working a low-paid, garbage position doing dead-end tech support is working towards a 4-year degree in CIS, or starting a small business of some kind. So far, I've been leaning towards the degree, because it might be a good foundation towards something else.
RD | |
| uoparah 2002-07-13, 12:45 pm |
| It will be trying on your situation if you do. But I definitely think that getting a 4 year degree is your best bet if you insist on staying in the IT field. At least, once you have a 4 year degree, if you dont work in IT, you can land a better position in the government than you would w/o the degree, and can always land a Master's degree in something else if it comes to it. And you have been in the field much too long to up and leave the profession as quickly as I plan to [probably either doing patent law if I do well enough on the LSAT, which will utilize my technical skills, or health career/MPA, which would make me totally abandon tech field].
Good luck... | |
| DivxGuy 2002-07-13, 2:12 pm |
| Good luck to you, too!
RD | |
| secondskin 2002-07-14, 12:57 am |
| I see jobs posted in Vancouver all the time for tech jobs. Why dont you try there DIVX guy.
If you have 7 years of experience I dont think you should have much trouble finding one.
$55 grand is not a bad wage, maybe take a job for less if it comes up. |
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