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| rheingold 2002-04-02, 4:12 pm |
| I know that misery loves company (only kidding!) and a lot of us have the job hunting blues...so this may be a good resource if your interested. The US Gov't has a "ton" of IT jobs listed at their web site:
http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
Just click on "Job Openings" in the upper left hand corner, then click on "Information Technology". The last time I checked they had 170 postings both US and overseas - so lots of geographic choices. It does take some effort to complete the application
process...I've applied for several positions myself. But there are some good jobs with some good gov't agencies. If you have a college degree like myself, you may qualify based upon academic achievement (GPA), or a combination of education and/or work experience. Just read the job announcement criteria very carefully. Everyone has different goals and needs, so check it out if your interested...good luck to all and don't give up! | |
| cross36 2002-04-02, 4:35 pm |
| Thank you for the link and the listing.
Check out also fbijobs.com
You have to be 23 though to apply | |
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| another example of age discrimination... i still cant believe there isnt 1 age for everything... if you are old enough to vote and die for your country you should be able to drink and rent a car (not at the same time) this crap where you have to be 23 to apply to this and 25 to rent a car in certain places is stupid...
for the record... im 24 | |
| Drummer 2002-04-02, 5:40 pm |
| Re: renting a car
You can find small rental companies that will rent to those under 25. That's what my friend and I did when I was in the SF area. I was 23 and he was 24. We just went to a small company and their policy was to rent to anyone over 21. It's not a law, just a guideline for big rental companies. | |
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| i know its not a law and i know some places will rent to you if you are under 25 or some places will rent to you if you are under 25 and can have someone over 25 cosign with you but the bottom line is its still a form of discrimination | |
| ccieToBe 2002-04-02, 8:33 pm |
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Originally posted by pist
another example of age discrimination... i still cant believe there isnt 1 age for everything... if you are old enough to vote and die for your country you should be able to drink and rent a car (not at the same time) this crap where you have to be 23 to apply to this and 25 to rent a car in certain places is stupid...
for the record... im 24
My thoughts exactly. I was thinking about applying until I noticed the age and degree requirements. The degree requirement I can see the reason behind but requiring someone to be 23 is just another form of discrimination. I'm 19 so that's still a ways off. | |
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| Thanks for the link. A great way for me to finish my 20 when I get off active duty in a few years. | |
| exambuster 2002-04-09, 12:08 am |
| are those jobs open only for U.S citizen ? | |
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| Hello. I've been in civil service under DOD for 11 years and having a good solid education does help. Many times though, I have seen people get transferred or new hired into my particular environment simply by who they knew regardless of what they knew. I know this happens in almost any job.
Case in point, a lady I work with has a sister who is now a GS12 with no college whatsoever. She was promoted strictly from inside influence. This type of hiring is something that has bothered me since day one. The DOD sector is full of this everyday. People are put into positions that they have no idea how to do ! No wonder the government is turning to private industry to do their work for them. This would be the place to apply for work in civil service. | |
| erohver 2002-04-09, 3:31 pm |
| I think you only have to be 18 to rent a U-HAUL. While not the best for cruising the strip, and picking up chicks, you can rent a van for $19 a day in a pinch.  | |
| Kasor 2002-04-09, 11:26 pm |
| It will take long time before they send u the application!
Depend on the job and the closing date. ... | |
| cisco_kidd20 2002-04-17, 8:04 am |
| No wonder! I applied for the IT dept for the FBI 2 times, I didn't realize you have to be 23. I'm only 21  Yea I know, a youngin, I'm willing to go anywhere in the U.S. for a NEW job right now, my boss thinks he can work me to death for free here. I'll check the usajobs though!  | |
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| Generally, govt jobs are pretty cushy if you can get one. I mean you've really got to screw up to get fired from one.
pist,
I agree with you. And, I also believe everyone is guilty of some form of discremination. Presently age, race, and gender are the only illegal ones. | |
| Kasor 2002-04-17, 10:01 pm |
| Govn't job can be a best job on earth! But before u get there... There are many obstale and block.
Get into a job is a issue, transfer between jobs is issue, getting the right place and right job is a issue.
We believe govn't shall have a good HR system, but networking can get u there earlier and easier.  | |
| cisco_kidd20 2002-04-17, 10:39 pm |
| Does anyone here get any kind of response from here? Does anyone here work for the Gov't? I have been applying, but I cant seem to get my shoe in the door, not even on their door step at that! | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-04-18, 6:55 am |
| I work in state government. It takes a while to get in and the pay is crap, but once you are in, you can usually expect to keep your job, or have an easy time switching if you don't like the environment. Am not sure about fed gov't. | |
| Bravesfan 2002-04-23, 9:24 pm |
| I'm an network admin on a contract in a major federal agency. The feds pay their computer people very well imho. The computer specialist designation pays much more than the standard GS grades. A GS-12 for instance starts at $57k and goes up to about $75k. Even a GS-9 starts around $40k. However, it's very difficult to get in - even if you work there on contract. Knowing people helps but not like it does in the private sector. Your best bet is to constantly check out www.usajobs.opm.gov and look for the 'computer specialist' positions. | |
| medfly 2002-05-02, 11:42 pm |
| i work for the fed too. it is indeed difficult for many people to be hired in IT. when a job posting comes out on the USAjobs website, there is a limited time to apply....sometimes a month or two, sometimes only a week. beware of the shorter windows, as these are often positions for which a specific candidate is already being considered for. this is sort of a mechanism for promotion, but because of the govt regulations, the position must be advertised to the general public.
also, keep in mind that there is a point system in place for hiring applicants, ie the more points you score, the higher you are ranked among the applicant pool. Take a career changer who has been in the military for the past 10 years or something. this person STARTS with like 10 more points on the application than someone who has not worked for the govt. that being said, i don't think that the best applicants are always chosen for positions, and for obvious reasons, there is a strong bias towards older applicants.
don't be too discouraged by all this, there are many volunteer and perhaps part time positions available! | |
| cruss575 2002-05-05, 8:25 pm |
| It is true that getting into the Fed gov't is pretty difficult. I have never seen anyone get in without them knowing someone who pushed their application.
However, with the Homeland security push on right now, there are quite a few jobs with agencies that have some role in this.
The downside is that you may never reach your true potential as a 'techie' I haven't seen very many skilled gov't workers in IT; in the Wash-DC area the civil service scale doesn't pay enough to attract qualified engineers.
There is a reason the Prez is mandating more contractors... |
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