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| AudiRdstrTT 2002-04-04, 10:10 am |
| Is it just me or does it seem like this field sucks. Is it just me or does this field suck XXX in pay and job opening's. After reading all the crap that I do its gotten me down and even thinking about going back to the drawing board about figuring out a career. I dont know what to do anymore | |
| Nicole 2002-04-04, 10:24 am |
| EVERY field sucks at the entry level stage. Ask a lawyer what law school was like, and how many hours a week they worked their first few years of practice. Or a doctor. Or a rookie policeman stuck on a walking beat. Whatever you decide to do, love it for itself or those first few years will be excruciating.
It's a bad year for IT. It'll turn around eventually -- already it seems like some entry level stuff is opening up but the competition is fierce. | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-04-04, 10:29 am |
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EVERY field sucks at the entry level stage.
Agreed. You cannot enter a field and expect to make six-figure salaries. You generally start at the bottom! | |
| Teck Shark 2002-04-04, 11:42 am |
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Originally posted by The VMS Kid
Agreed. You cannot enter a field and expect to make six-figure salaries. You generally start at the bottom!
I completely agree too! You are gonna be very dissapointed expecting a 6 figure salary to start out. Some people never get there, others take years of hard work & dedication!
It's all hard work from the beginning. You just have to dedicate yourself & enjoy what you do, even when it clearly sux! No matter what career you choose, it will be a lot of work! And you definitely have to enjoy what you do!  | |
| jackiechan 2002-04-04, 1:03 pm |
| I don't think the IT industry will ever be the same. There won't be another Bill Gates. The companies that have survived will become mature companies and at some time they will die. At the moment it is about survival of the fitest. Lean and mean. IT has become another office job just like there are clerks and accountants. programming will become just a second language except you speak it via a keyboard and it will be great if you can speak many. | |
| Drummer 2002-04-04, 3:40 pm |
| I tend to agree with everyone so far. Jackiechan is right that the salaries won't be like they were before, but there is still a lot of potential in this industry. You have to look at the big picture rather than the starting salaries. A lot of places might have decent salaries to start with but they top out relatively quickly. You can make good money on the line in either Chicago or Detroit thanks to the unions, but is that really what you want to do with your life?
As far as future money and career prospects, I still think the IT industry is up there with just about any other. | |
| TW2001 2002-04-04, 5:48 pm |
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but there is still a lot of potential in this industry
Me too.I think many people have the wrong focus.Dont get me wrong I enjoy the forums.But I absolutely stay abreast of what going and where the industry is going.
Maybe look at some other ways to enter the field.I dont think anyone can predict the market a year from now.Think creatively.Think competition.This is an extremely competitive field.Especially for the inexperienced.How bad do you really want it? Most of all shed your expectations they will only defeat you.
"Never underestimate how much your attitude can control your destiny".
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| onoski 2002-04-05, 5:42 am |
| It is good to read through some real good and positive post in this forum and I can't express how much of an encouragement it's been to me. Well done everyone, and remember persistence and determination can take you a long way. Don't give up as nothing's easy in life it's about having the right attitude and efforts that counts. Keep the dreams alive regardless of your present future as things could only get better. When there is life there is hope. Some people don't even have any hope for anything, lets be thankful we can hope for something better in the near future. It ain't over till you win is the attitude my friends. | |
| ervinl1 2002-04-12, 12:02 am |
| You can always do what I'm doing. I gone back to school to get my masters. I said to hell with it all. I'm going to teach. | |
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Originally posted by AudiRdstrTT
Is it just me or does it seem like this field sucks. Is it just me or does this field suck XXX in pay and job opening's. After reading all the crap that I do its gotten me down and even thinking about going back to the drawing board about figuring out a career. I dont know what to do anymore
its not just you... but i think we need to realize that this isnt the late 90's and there arent alot of startups out there willing to pay big bucks like there was then, of course if you listen to it schools things couldnt be better... "if you listen to them" | |
| TW2001 2002-04-12, 7:56 am |
| For the schools things couldnt be better.People are still buying their BS.On the radio I hear ad after ad.You read these boards tons of people are going to them.Im sure they are making a killing.
I cannot beleive that people can be so ignorant as to not beleive what is going on in the industry.Its a shame. | |
| Drummer 2002-04-12, 9:30 am |
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Originally posted by TW2001
For the schools things couldnt be better.People are still buying their BS.On the radio I hear ad after ad.You read these boards tons of people are going to them.Im sure they are making a killing.
I cannot beleive that people can be so ignorant as to not beleive what is going on in the industry.Its a shame.
I think as long as you stay grounded in reality, the tech schools are fine. If you know that certs aren't the be all for getting a job in the field and that you have to work on stuff on the side as well you'll be fine. I'm an instructor and I always tell my students to download the stuff at home and work on it there. It's the old "if you don't use it, you lose it" thing.
For some people, IT is still better than their old fields, myself included. | |
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| i wholeheartedly disagree... ive been to 2 different tech schools and they both sucked... everyone i know who has attended one has horror stories... if you want to get certified dont waste money on a tech school get yourself a good video set and a book and go to work because you will have to do the work on your own anyway if you go to school... maybe my opinion will change when i go back from my break and we have a new teacher (our class and another class got the old guy sent to the other campus because he was horrible) but right now im not a fan of tech schools... the only advanatage that i see right now is that i will have a tech degree on my resume in addition to my certs and i will have access to the schools career services | |
| envoid 2002-04-13, 6:34 am |
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Originally posted by TW2001
For the schools things couldnt be better.People are still buying their BS.On the radio I hear ad after ad.You read these boards tons of people are going to them.Im sure they are making a killing.
I cannot beleive that people can be so ignorant as to not beleive what is going on in the industry.Its a shame.
If it'll make you feel any better, the school I went to (I just finished last Monday)is so empty they had to let the director of corporate training go last Thursday, and the senior trainer just gave his notice this Tuesday. My MCSE track consisted of 2 students. That included me. My track was a daytime class, while the night-time track had 4 students. That's it...This is in a NY State accredited College. Deadsville.....
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