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Bigg

2002-02-28, 3:02 pm

I went to Katharine Gibbs for a year and graduated with a diploma in Computer Tech Support. What would you cmpare it to? I didn't really learn much that I didn't already know, but I did get the diploma. What do you guys think about the school and the diploma? Do you think it was really worth it? It doesn't seem to be impressing any employers I'm applying to. Just tell me what you think about...
cross36

2002-02-28, 3:30 pm

I don't know if it's anything compared to CHUBBS. But i know a few people that just said they paid for that certificate
wbafrank

2002-02-28, 4:11 pm

I've never met her so I couldn't tell you!!
cross36

2002-02-28, 4:13 pm

LOL
Webmaster

2002-02-28, 4:40 pm

I went to Katharine Gibbs in Long Island, NY in 1997, I also got the Computer tech support certificate. I think it's just about the same as most other tech schools.

The bottom line is that if you want to learn, you will do fine in any school.

You right, the college certificate in tech support is not impressive, but it's a good start. You can continue your education and go for associates degree.

Also, as you know, that school has a lifetime placement assistance.

They actually help their students get jobs. 2 o 3 students from my class got hired at Computer Associates right after graduating with no experience.
Bigg

2002-02-28, 6:08 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Webmaster
I went to Katharine Gibbs in Long Island, NY in 1997, I also got the Computer tech support certificate. I think it's just about the same as most other tech schools.

The bottom line is that if you want to learn, you will do fine in any school.

You right, the college certificate in tech support is not impressive, but it's a good start. You can continue your education and go for associates degree.

Also, as you know, that school has a lifetime placement assistance.

They actually help their students get jobs. 2 o 3 students from my class got hired at Computer Associates right after graduating with no experience.


Did they help you get a job??? I can't even get in touch with my placement department. I feel like they're avoiding me. One more thing, what did you do after school??? Did you go to school some more or hit the workforce???
masterivc

2002-03-01, 10:21 am

It really depend on what did "you" learn in the school.
I used to work with 2 guys that finished that school. I don't know what they did but thir knowlege of computers was close to 0.
On the other hand is the guy I am working with now. He finished the same school and he knows his stuff.
I never went to tech school and have a good position.
Do not stop. Learn on you own!
NickL

2002-03-01, 1:53 pm

Go to a real school, and get a degree. Don't waste your time at these low end vo-tech schools. This is not 1998, it is more competitive and employers want proven talent, not warm bodys to fill positions.
What may have worked 3-5 years ago to get in, will not work today.
Bigg

2002-03-01, 1:57 pm

quote:
Originally posted by masterivc
It really depend on what did "you" learn in the school.
I used to work with 2 guys that finished that school. I don't know what they did but thir knowlege of computers was close to 0.
On the other hand is the guy I am working with now. He finished the same school and he knows his stuff.
I never went to tech school and have a good position.
Do not stop. Learn on you own!


That was the thing. I could have learned more if there weren't sooooo many slacking idiots in my class. I don't understand how people thing they are gonna get a career in IT if they don't know how to use a mouse. They turned a class that had potential to gie in depth knowledge of networking, OS's, & hardware into a class that taught you how to double click. It was to the point that I was teaching classes because teachers couldn't take the class. Some people were soooo stupid that the teachers couldn't even understand what they were asking. If anything, that's got to be the main thing that annoys me about IT. People don't know what to do with their lives, so they choose IT as an easy money maker. What about the people the are passionate about computers and want to make it to they top??? They are stuck jobless because all you need for a help desk position is a damn high school diploma. Lots of jobs aren't concerned about what skills you have. Many of the people doing the hiring have no idea what a 100 user network is. They just hire the person that has the most experience. It doesn't even have to be tech experience. They could have worked @ Mc D's for 2 years, but because you were @ school working towards your future, you don't have enough experience. Damn, I don't know where all of that cam from, but I feel a little better now that it's off my chest. I hope it all makes sence. It's too much typing to proof read.
pkupchik

2002-03-01, 5:14 pm

Time to take a few deep breaths and lighten up on the Jolt.

You're right: But it's not only IT schools. In any industry or discipline, one of the biggest reasons that good schools are better than the rest is that they are harder to get into. That's why if you really want to get anything out of any kind of training, you should go with the best school you can. You should always try to get the opinions of graduates before handing your money over to any school. A good school will have tougher entrance requirements, tougher graduation requirements, better instructors, better equipment, and will follow the syllabus more closely (instead of getting off track for the sake of a few who don't get it). Since better schools are harder to get into, harder to graduate from, and teach more, their graduates will be in higher demand. a big name may cost you more, but it should pay off in the end. The days of landing a great IT job by doing the bare minimum to prepare yourself are over. Now, everybody has to start at the bottom and work their way up -- no matter what you have on paper. The only thing that really matters right now is experience. And, the better your education, the more you'll be able to understand and do -- and the faster your experience will get you somewhere. If you're set on technical school, go to the best one you can find. Otherwise, consider getting a degree instead. You'll get a more rounded education that will be useful in many more situations, and will still be valuable when today's technology is obsolete (which doesn't take long). It will also give you a better chance of eventually landing a management position. In this current economy, there's no quick path to easy success. So, think long haul, and try to build yourself the most solid foundation you can.

By the way, NickL, please don't mince words. Tell us what you really think.
Bigg

2002-03-02, 10:13 pm

See that's the thing. I'm BROKE. I do want to get a degree, but I have no money to put towards it. I need something full time so I can save some money, and go back to school at night. I know it will take longer that way, but it's what I need to do. I'm just bummed out looking for a job and getting nothing week after week. Hopefully after I get my Net+ I'll have a little more something they want. Thanks pkupchik for everything. In the back of my mind I already know everything that you said, but it gets hard to deal with sometimes. I think I'm loosing my mind with all of this. I just need to vent sometimes. Hopefully things will turn around soon.
pkupchik

2002-03-03, 4:30 pm

I hear you. I'm in the same boat. When I left my last job, I decided to take some time to get some technical training and certs, so that I could move up into a better job instead of staying at the same level. Unfortunately, my timing sucks. I now find myself taking temp jobs doing whatever I can get. Instead of moving up, I'm now at a lower level than I was before. I have a BA (although it's in Economics), technical training in Win 2K from BU, an MCSA, and some experience; but I still can't find a job. I know things will turn around eventually. And, I know the best I can hope for at this point is to be able to ride it out and build some more experience through temping, until companies start hiring again.

If you're broke and can't find a decent job, you should be looking to get whatever you can, so you have an income and build experience. More training, and more certs won't get you any closer to a good job -- but they will help you build your debt. Now is not the time to worry about advancement. For now, just do what you can to ride out this recession. When things get better, and you land a good job, then you can start thinking about what you'd like to be doing. I know it sucks, but right now, nothing is as it should be -- and you just have to adapt until things go back to normal. You can't take any of it personally, and you can't change it into something ideal. You just have to wait until this nightmare is over. It's happened before. The market will recover. The Sun will rise.

Good luck.
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