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how do i get my foot in the door?
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| phatty366 2002-01-19, 11:05 pm |
| right now, it just seems like i have my foot up my XXX  ...im 18, attending college and would really like to break into the IT field. i really dont know what to do...im finishing up my A+ certication in the near future and i am seriously considering getting involved in one of those co-op things (i get money, experience and college credit by working with a big firm) over the summer. any suggestions? | |
| PotatoHead 2002-01-20, 12:18 am |
| I'd go for the co-op thing to help you get a grasp of the real world and then try for a help desk or tech support job. After awhile there i would just look around the papers and placement agencies. JMO | |
| cross36 2002-01-20, 6:22 pm |
| Get some hands-on. Say working for friends and relatives. Get into a business that uses computers for their work. Work in that for a while. Keep on studying and asserting yourself. You'll develop a drive and keep climbing ladders.
We all start at the bottom. The question is are we happy here, or do we want more? That is what develops our drive | |
| jackiechan 2002-01-20, 7:13 pm |
| A+ certification does not get you far these days.Try MCSE even though it has been devalued because of the numbers around. Getting experience as part of your education is the best way to break into IT unless you know people in IT that are in the capacity of hiring. Even though there is a downturn, it hasn't really deterred people from wanting to be in IT. Many people are in your situation so find ways to eliminate the competition. | |
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| {{{A+ certification does not get you far these days.}}}
A+ alone probably won't move you a centimeter along the path, let alone " not get you far". But since you are going for a degree + have the opportunity to get involved in a co-op, plus hopefully get a couple of the higher level certifications, you should have no problem getting a good job. | |
| phatty366 2002-01-20, 8:09 pm |
| doesnt really pay for me to get an MCSE degree now...by the time I finish college, it would be worthless because a new Microsoft OS would dominate the market | |
| huntert 2002-01-21, 6:18 pm |
| A+ is not going to land you anything, well maybe a position in best buys, circuit city or someother dump. Mcse is so saturated and it's not going to impress people much either.
Try getting into the security tracks like the Cisco security tracks or Checkpoint.
Try getting into real technology with the cisco telephony track, not many can setup atm or sonet rings.
Citrix tracks are also very nice and not many go for that.
RHCE is another goodone.
I have to say that when i got my mcse in early 97 = #13,000 then it was a valued posession.
Just look around and see the numbers and what is going on. | |
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| Oh! Well, just study hard at the college, get good grade, then you can get internship, Co-op and P/T jobs.
That's no easy way. Also, it is up to you what field you want to get in: programming, developing, design, networking, ...
Good luck | |
| limsam 2002-01-23, 8:02 pm |
| And
The greatest mistakes of all:
(1) Listening to all advices
(2) Listening to none of the advices.
The above is an all-time-classic advice.
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| phatty366 2002-01-23, 8:21 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Kasor
That's no easy way. Also, it is up to you what field you want to get in: programming, developing, design, networking, ...
Good luck
i really would like to become a system administrator or something along those lines. i can't stand programming at all, it's too frustrating (at least with C++ anyway). i can do basic website design, nothing fancy, it was a bit of a hobby of mine for a while...but even that market is too saturated and competitive...i dont't even know how to use Flash! in the web developing sector, not knowing how to use Flash would make you just as valuable as a guy who has doesn't have fingers to type on the keyboard with. | |
| darthw 2002-01-23, 11:38 pm |
| Well said, Limsam
Continue with A+, then maybe the other CompTIA exams while you're in college, and they will supplement your college courses well. And you won't have to recertify on the CompTIA stuff when you finish college. You may want to consider MCP in some of the Microsoft desktop OS, just because it will get you some helpful exposure for some intern or coop experience as well.
The degree will be most helpful, but any additional experience or certs good as well. | |
| Psydefx 2002-01-25, 8:48 pm |
| The keys to Kindom IT.
For the next year, you should study the following. Only stop when you can have an intelligent conversation on these topics:
Memory Register bit resolution and calculation: anding and adding bit results
TCP/IP classless interdomain routing and port access supression
data structure normalization: the appropriate uses of all normal forms
class declaration and integration
The rest is the favorite flavor of some vendor's new proprietary implementation.
If you build a solid foundation, you can adapt the information to the application.
A good working knowledge of MS Office won't hurt either.
ps. Find a way to help the customer always be right (they need to think they thought of it).
Best of LUCK (see below) to you!
Cheers! |
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