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CCIE vs Oracle DBA certficiation
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| Now you know the one of the main forces that drives people to IT certification is the pay. I still have to understand why so many people are going for the CCIE which takes roughly about a year to prepare for, rather than just take about 4-6 months and get an Oracle DBA certification which pays more requiring less experience. Today your average Oracle DBA with 3 years experience makes roughly $100K/year while your average CCIE with same experience makes the same thing. I also believe their is higher demand for Oracle DBAs. I want us to discuss this topic very well 'cos I know it ain't just me. Let's do 2 things. Go to Dice.com and search for CCIE and watch the results, then search for Oracle DBA and watch the # of results compared to that for CCIE.
Oracle DBA with 1 year experience:
* http://www.dice.com/DandL/r/reboot.JO00193498-1206.html
Oracle DBA up to from 2 years experience and up...Pay is from $114K/year to $215K/year
(Thats almost quarter of a million dollars annually!) http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxmnpwr...43_13299nd.html
Then check the CCIEs http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxomni.OO101005D.html http://www.dice.com/DandL/n/nlbrtx.001.html
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| You are talking apples and bananas:
Oracle DBA's have to know Unix inside and out. CCIE's do not need any Unix knowledge. Have you ever tried Unix administration? I haven't either but I hear it's no fun. Ok, then let's throw in an industrial size Oracle database to design and/or administer, and you have heart attack soup.
Oh, and one more thing: if the mission critical database crashes, you get a pink paycheck.
I'll stick to the CCIE, thanks...
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DBA is good to know and making it way up in today high demand on the Web.
However, this is 2 difficult issure here!
You cannot compare CCIE to DBA.
Are u talking about Money or Potential vs Time?
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| I'm talking about Money of course. Thats what it all boils down to. You make less of an investment to get an Oracle DBA cert which is in more demand and pays more compared to CCIE. I have not seen a CCIE yet that makes 215K/year but there are Oracle DBAs all over that make that much. | |
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| Have you been to California. CCIE over there makes about 250k plus. Even though you decide to pick CCIE. In no way you are going to become a CCIE in one year. | |
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| I rest my case then. You agree that it even takes longer than 1 year to achieve CCIE status. You can get Oracle DBA in less than 6 months though to make as much money. Now tell me which is a more sensible investment of time/resources | |
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| A lot depends on what you want to do and how happy you want to be also. Trust me I used to have to get up and go do a job that was not interesting to me and I hated it I was not very productive. Now I am in a field were I love , networking and wans its so fun . It can be hard and long hours but I love it. Not every person can sit down and work on databases they can be a bear try to get involved Micrsoft access for a while its easy to learn the basics fast in it but after you get deep into it you will find it can get hard and then think about Oracle. I can bet you it would take longer than 4 months to get the cert. CCIE is a very tuff exam and unless you have many years experience you will not pass it in under a year. Remember you have to love what you do to be happy. | |
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| This is my first time here, on this forum but have something to say that might interest some people. I deal with CCIE's and CCNP's nearly 100% of the day, as I am in a telcom company and hold a good position, make over 75K. I do not ahve any certifications, just a good mouth, smooth talker, can convince u I know what I am saying , even If i dont. I think no matter if you ahve a CCIE or DBA , it depends how u sell yourself to get the TOP $$. Personally, I know I might not last in long run, but for short term I am collecting my cash. I would like to get certified, I am only 20 http://128.242.228.49/ubb/smile.gif and now the question is what's the easy way out, CCIE OR DBA. Sounds to me its DBA. I never looked in DBA but listening to you guys it sounds like something that will be easier of a task than CCIE. What do you guys think, It makes me laugh when people have CCNA and CCNP and I interview them. This is a shame. Again, the question is which one of them takes the shortest. I have no clue about ORACLE TRACK but I am aware of CRISCO track so any COMMENTS ?????? | |
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Originally posted by omega247:
Now you know the one of the main forces that drives people to IT certification is the pay. I still have to understand why so many people are going for the CCIE which takes roughly about a year to prepare for, rather than just take about 4-6 months and get an Oracle DBA certification which pays more requiring less experience. Today your average Oracle DBA with 3 years experience makes roughly $100K/year while your average CCIE with same experience makes the same thing. I also believe their is higher demand for Oracle DBAs. I want us to discuss this topic very well 'cos I know it ain't just me. Let's do 2 things. Go to Dice.com and search for CCIE and watch the results, then search for Oracle DBA and watch the # of results compared to that for CCIE.
Oracle DBA with 1 year experience:
* http://www.dice.com/DandL/r/reboot.JO00193498-1206.html
Oracle DBA up to from 2 years experience and up...Pay is from $114K/year to $215K/year
(Thats almost quarter of a million dollars annually!) http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxmnpwr...43_13299nd.html
Then check the CCIEs http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxomni.OO101005D.html http://www.dice.com/DandL/n/nlbrtx.001.html
If my job is more towards hardware configuration like routers & switches, in what reason should I go for a DBA cert??
Different path, man.
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Gareth Leung
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| Hi GQ,
I think that the MCDBA would be faster. I am considering the MCDBA too, but something in me wants to go the CCIE route. Microsoft Access is a good way to get an idea of databases. TO find out more about the MCDBA track go to Microsoft.com, Events/Training, Training and Certification, Certification, and then click on the MCDBA.
Oh yeah, we NEED to talk. I need advice on how to be a smooth talker like you. My guess is that you are probably tall, which gives the impression of authority. I am suprised by your age because my age is a problem for me on interviews, along with other things. How did you get such a good job with little experience. Help ME! | |
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| Sounds like you are trying to get certified as quick as you can no matter what certification it is as long as it is the easiest, quickest certification.
The one most important thing that the CCIE will have over Oracle (or any other) certification is that once you get it, you will definately know your stuff. It's not just a written test, but a hands-on lab as well.
Believe me, there is a lot more to working with Oracle databases than you might think. Like kwiftide indicated, one screw up and you might be shopping for a new job. Large corporations live and breathe from their databases. If you check with some of those people who are making up to $250,000+ as DBAs usually have bachelors and masters degrees on top of Oracle and/or MCDBA certifications.
You have to look beyond the dollar signs. | |
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| OK here si what you do. Now call me a crook its upto you. When I first started looking at the IT market I was only 18. I ha dto lie a lil bit on my resume and tell u honestly, lot of firms do not even check anything.Remember I blow them on interviews and I am not that tall. I am 5*10, what I usually do is that I type a different resume for every job with describing what they want to hear. I read about the subject thoroughly beforwe I go for an interview. Anyway, well I just let them hear what they wnat to hear and be professional and I guess dress up nice what not. Again, you can get whole lot of jobs in telcom that are not exactly technicla but u can sound like its technical. Its a technicality in itself.
I can tell you this, if I ahve a CCNA I will be makin 100K, this is what I know fom experience. Anyway, I dont dig the MCSE thing, its pretty much down the drain. By the way I am takin a job with consulting agency one of the BIG ones for 88K plus bonus and what not. Not bad I turn 21 soon, plan is to hit 100K before year ends. Anyway, its my way of playing the game, gotta knwo how to play your cards and I guess untiL i GET a certification, luck plays an important part http://128.242.228.49/ubb/smile.gif
chao
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Originally posted by trinidee:
Hi GQ,
I think that the MCDBA would be faster. I am considering the MCDBA too, but something in me wants to go the CCIE route. Microsoft Access is a good way to get an idea of databases. TO find out more about the MCDBA track go to Microsoft.com, Events/Training, Training and Certification, Certification, and then click on the MCDBA.
Oh yeah, we NEED to talk. I need advice on how to be a smooth talker like you. My guess is that you are probably tall, which gives the impression of authority. I am suprised by your age because my age is a problem for me on interviews, along with other things. How did you get such a good job with little experience. Help ME!
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| GQ,
I really appreciate the info. I must admit that I use 1 general resume. So that is one change I have to make. I will definitely start reading more about IT and specifically for topics on interviews. Lying is not for me, but a little exaggeration could not hurt though.
Thanks
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