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Robocop_OCP

2001-09-27, 2:27 pm

Ive been hearing lots of sad stories about guys getting laid off, but Im never sure of their location. Are you guys from NYC?
Ive heard so many sad stories about how the IT market is so bad, Im thinking about changing career directions! When you guys post, Please state your location and city so that you dont confuse or depress the other posters in here who may not be from your town which may happen to be in recession. BIG Thanx! Just because some town in kentucky is laying off their workers doesnt mean everyone in NYC is in the same boat.

So from the looks of the posts in here, it seems that programmers (developers) are the ones who never have to worry about lay offs because they are so vital to production. Whereas companies seem to feel they dont need a lot of networking guys around for whatever reason so they lay them off all the time.
Kasor

2001-10-01, 9:58 pm

As long as you are experience worker and have good resume. (real job)

U will find a job, but still it is difficult.
Many IT manager, RH and recuriter don't trust their what they saw on the resume.

And many people don't want to commute
gammann

2001-10-01, 11:05 pm

Well,

If you are thinking about getting into the IT market, depending on your skill set, I would stay away right now. I got laid off on 9/11/01 and I'm in the DC area. I've applied for 103 positions online since the 11th, and I have yet to recieve an email or phone call.

For this area, if you have a security clearance, you could probably name your price. Seems to be plenty of jobs listed for people with clearances, and none of the companies want to pay for you to get one, plus the government is backlogged like a year on clearances.

Seems to be a lot of programming and network security jobs as well.

But if you are entry level into the IT market, its gonna be tough. Most of the job postings I see are for more senior positons, seems as if companies don't want to train you either. I feel sorry for those just coming out of college.
Robocop_OCP

2001-10-02, 4:43 am

quote:
But if you are entry level into the IT market, its gonna be tough. Most of the job postings I see are for more senior positons, seems as if companies don't want to train you either. I feel sorry for those just coming out of college.


Dont feel too sorry for us recent college grads. I turned down 4 entry level positions already because I dont have enough knowledge in the field. Thats why Im still studying to understand all the concepts. But they told me to come back when Im ready.
Mat P

2001-10-02, 5:57 am

If they offered you the job and you had been completely honest with them in the interview why turn them down??

You can always get the knowledge on the job, self study in the evening like most people on this forum - and earn a wage.

I know people who have been promised jobs in the past and it has all gone wrong...
mikemagic

2001-10-02, 2:49 pm

Robocop, what kind of entry level job are you looking for in NYC? I am in desktop support / network administration right now - I took a look at the help wanted section in the NY Times the other day for computers - much fewer help wanted ads compared to a year ago. Perhaps the demand for people with Oracle, C++, and Java would be greater right now.


quote:
Originally posted by gammann
Well,

If you are thinking about getting into the IT market, depending on your skill set, I would stay away right now. I got laid off on 9/11/01 and I'm in the DC area. I've applied for 103 positions online since the 11th, and I have yet to recieve an email or phone call.

For this area, if you have a security clearance, you could probably name your price. Seems to be plenty of jobs listed for people with clearances, and none of the companies want to pay for you to get one, plus the government is backlogged like a year on clearances.

Seems to be a lot of programming and network security jobs as well.

But if you are entry level into the IT market, its gonna be tough. Most of the job postings I see are for more senior positons, seems as if companies don't want to train you either. I feel sorry for those just coming out of college.

droozybean

2001-10-02, 2:53 pm

I left NYC about ayear ago for Miami. But I'm thinking about headingback up north. Miss the apple too much. How tight is the jpob scene up there?
droozybean

2001-10-02, 2:59 pm

You can check Monster or another job board to get some idea of what the current situation is. Sorry to derail but what I recently completed my CCA and was wondering what the Citrix demand is like up there
mikemagic

2001-10-02, 4:01 pm

quote:
Originally posted by droozybean
I left NYC about ayear ago for Miami. But I'm thinking about headingback up north. Miss the apple too much. How tight is the jpob scene up there?


I think the job market has probably gotten worse since the WTC attacks. All the offices in the WTC are obviously gone. Then you have the World Financial Center buildings that are damaged during the attack. These two areas were a source of many IT jobs.
droozybean

2001-10-03, 7:19 am

Thats true but the majority will have to relocate some where else. That means setting up new systems. I lost many friends in the WTC attack. The wholordeal has made me want to go back even more.
Kasor

2001-10-10, 9:54 am

Just have to stay claim and keep it moving. Remember the IT field is big, but do they need all that much of tech support. They need CS, IS, EE and other very technical person that can get the worker done.

More than 50% of the IT job is programming. Think about how many % is the tech support!
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