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Pass CCIE Lab exam with in 6 months-GURANTEE
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| haseeb_eng 2003-02-22, 3:03 am |
| My manager said that we will send you for the CCIE lab training but you must pass the exam by 6 months(time could be changed) and they will pay for 3 tries . If i fail 3rd time they will take alllll the expenses from my salary(offcourse i told himn to increase my salary then you can cut whatver you want  ) . But i did'nt accept his offer.
One of my colleague accepted his offer and he went to take the lab training . One day before going to the lab training he attemted to give the written exam in which he was failed. When he came back from the lab trainging i asked him how was the trainging he said that the training was very very difficult . And you should know all the concepts before going to the lab training . Now the company will order the lab for him . 9 routers,isdn simulator, ATM and 2 3550 switches This guy will be dedicated to study only . So he will not be going on calls .CCIE ASKS FOR EXPERIENCE .
My question is should i accept my manager offer and go for training ? Do you guys think so i can pass in 3rd try with in 1 year ? Or should i wait for the lab to come in the office and do practice in my office on that lab ? ANY SUGGESTIONS ? | |
| darthfeces 2003-02-22, 8:49 am |
| wow .... if it would be a year i'd snag it
or 6 months and a bootcamp such as net master or cyscoexpert.
honestly i'm jealous. if i had 40+ hrs a week to give to study i would have passed already. instead i've made no attempt yet and my written will expire in june.
have 3 kids at home
and am working on ip telephony pilot, cisco iptv and implementing 300k worth of 3550's
(that's 84 switches)
paid for by nasa for science and research.
all while supporting a 1500 node network and the bs that comes with it.
really pass the written first .... or your putting the cart before the horse.
only after passing the written and going to a bootcamp did i realize how much i didn't know. | |
| Adorik 2003-02-23, 7:34 am |
| HI,
hum my written will expire in december i think. i would realy like to take a bootcamp and dedicate my whole time for the lab 
ciao
adorik | |
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| For me if i get that kind of offer i will grab it with both hand .
I am sheduled for august and my company does not seem to care how i do it.
I am currently in a remote location and all i have assess to are my book but i still believe very well that the ccie lab is a doable thing. With enough dedication and practice you can pass at the first trial.
My sincere advice to you is try to do the written first,which you can do in say 2 months,find out your weakness and strength then start reading for your lab-another 3 months(practice during this time will be very important-do all the lab practice you can lay your hands on)
Then go to the bootcamp(by then you will know exactly your what you need to improve upon and use the last 1-2 months to fine tune your skill set for the exam.
6 months is enough time to prepare and if you are really ready u will not be afraid of failing.
This is assuming you dont have 3 kids and you have good practice time and lab access.
Rgds | |
| Widgewaam 2003-02-24, 2:21 am |
| Well why don't you pay for the written yourself, and if you pass it, then take them up. If you fail you probably aren't ready. I for one, would do it, even with 2 kids! | |
| Yankee 2003-02-24, 3:50 am |
| In all honesty it doesn't matter what we would do because we are all at various levels of readiness. Only you can judge if that will work for you.
Passing the written is not an indication you are ready for the lab (mine already expired once with no lab attempts), but at least it will give you some indication as to if you want to tackle the company's offer.
Take the written then make your decision.
Yankee | |
| haseeb_eng 2003-03-05, 1:43 am |
| Thanks everybody for your responses . Well that offer is gone for the time being . I am now residence engineer somewhere else . My contract will be finishing in July(after 5 months so uptill that time i will try to finish my CCIE written exam) with the company i will see whether i can get better job with better salary . If i will get handsome salary from some other company then i may leave this company , because from that extra money i may buy my own lab with one of my colleaugue .
What do you guys think about this idea ? Because even if i stick with the company for 1 year (for my ccie) with the same salary then with more salary i may join other company and can get my own home lab . Any suggestions on this ? | |
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| Hi
I am not so sure about the so call CCIE training that your company is sending, in fact i don't believe that a CCIE can be train. I have see a company sending 10 persons to a so call 3 months CCIE bootcamp, and end up none of them pass the lab in the first three attempt.
To me the lab exam is testing on your understand of theory, it not just about your hand on speed. I have mentor a few of my colleague and friend for the lab exam, most of them pass at the third attempt.
cheers!
csyeo | |
| dumbut 2003-03-13, 12:22 am |
| I have mentor a few of my colleague and friend for the lab exam, most of them pass at the third attempt
Your colleagues are dumb asses!! | |
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| As per to Cisco, the average number of attempts a candidate takes to pass is 2.5. So, I won't consider passing it from the third attempt as dumb. That's around average.
Rudeness is one way of hiding ones weakness. You may also need to do something about your nick name before using it on labeling others. | |
| Carl_Docklands 2003-03-13, 7:23 am |
| Its not the fact that i may have to go that bothers me. Its the fact that its going to cost me $7000+ USD to to so ! | |
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| Oh yea, this CCIE thing is a money sucking machine.
I have to agree with "csy71", training is not everything, not even hands-on experience. Its all together. Me myself haven't done any training in my R&S, took me like 3 weeks to prepare for the written and around 3 months to prepare for the lab. And I passed it the first attempt.
I think its all together hands-on experience, study and resding, and training.
If you have your own lab, I don't think you should go for training. You may need to buy some practice labs and do it in your lab. I think the key is "practice". I have my own home lab, and that helped A LOT.
Look into CCO and recommended readings in Cisco site. Try to get as many case studies as you can from Cisco site. Take my word, recommended readings section is VERY valuable. | |
| wirelessboy 2003-03-13, 8:09 pm |
| thanks mosam
u passed it the first time, thats reassuring for me, i have seen a lot of people, passing only second time around.
just wondering, with the qualifier exam, do i get a CCO login, and also do i get some kit for ccie(Q), and hey mosam in case u did not read my other post, thanks for the help in this forum.
regards | |
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| No problem wireless.
I am not sure about the CCO, I have it from the company I used to work for. As for a kit, no you don't. All you get is a certificate saying that you passed, and as far as I remember, I think I got an email from Cisco explaining how to go through the lab, etc.
I think you can create a CCO from Cisco site easily, not sure you need to pass the qualification test in order to be able to.
Anyway, you have to have a CCO account to be able to get a lab date. Once you book a date, you receive a confirmation email from Cisco, and once you pay the lab fees, you get another email with lab center location, directions, rules, etc. | |
| dumbut 2003-03-14, 9:36 am |
| took me like 3 weeks to prepare for the written and around 3 months to prepare for the lab. And I passed it the first attempt.
wow...what a genius.... | |
| csy71 2003-03-15, 12:34 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mosam
I have to agree with "csy71", training is not everything, not even hands-on experience. Its all together. Me myself haven't done any training in my R&S, took me like 3 weeks to prepare for the written and around 3 months to prepare for the lab. And I passed it the first attempt.
That not suprise to me if you understand the topic well,my main mistake in the first two attempt is that i think i have understand the stuff by just know how to configure it. And all this cost my point in the lab just because i do not understand what the question actually looking for and don't even know where i go wrong even i achieve the requirement for the question.
So don't just think that if you know how to configure ospf,bgp,isis,eigrp,rip and other stuff you are ready for the lab. You have to understand it.
cheers!
csyeo
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| haseeb_eng 2003-03-16, 12:57 am |
| Well actually in every failure there is a lesson . And next time when you attempt again by that time you will be having more knowledge as compare to last attempt . Plus i agree with mosam and csy71 that if you can configure routing protocols does'nt means that you understand them well . | |
| btroadman 2003-03-17, 10:35 pm |
| I have started setting up a personal lab but want to keep costs down. Can any recent CCIE's give me a heads up on equipment. So far I have 2 3550's which I acquired at the low low price of $0.00. A 2521, 2509, 2503, (2) 2501's. I know the actual lab has 2600 and 3600's but who can afford that? Am I on the right track? Do I need an LS1010, ISDN Simulator, etc? I would appreciate any feedback. | |
| mosam 2003-03-17, 10:42 pm |
| No need for any ATM gears.. May be lab rental for couple of hours. This will do it. I would suggest you spend as much time as you can to practice ISDN, if you can afford a simulator, get one!
Check this link out,
http://www.gotcert.com/6/ubb.x?a=tp...0111#5186040111 | |
| btroadman 2003-03-17, 11:41 pm |
| Thanks a lot for the info, it was informative, glad to know I can skip buying the ATM switch. I have been looking at ISDN Simulators on Ebay, there are many auctions for PBX's like this one....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=11185
And am unsure if it is worth bothering with. | |
| mosam 2003-03-18, 12:22 am |
| We went through a similar discussion before in this forum about the ISDN simulator.
Unfortunately I have no experience with this kind of PBX you posted.
Here is wha tI have posted earlier regarding the matter...
I would recommend Teltone 2000, I think this is what they use in IPExpert.net labs. I have this myself and very easy to setup up little bit expensive though..
I believe however that there are others like vconsole and B-Link2 that can do the job as well.
The most important thing when you get the simulator is to make sure what kind of port it provides and what kind of port your router has. Teltone 2000 has both S/T and U ports, so, won't matter whether your router has a built-in TA or not. If you router can connect directly to U port, then u can go for a cheaper model like Teltone 1000..
The following is a list of the models I know (the estimated prices are list-prices for brand new models, and you can get them cheaper from places like eBay)
VConsole (http://www.vconsole.net) is an affordable one as well, and they have models that support both S/T and U, ranges from $800-$900
Teltone (http://www.teltone.com) is little bit more expensive they have two main models ILS-1000 (U ports only, ~$1500) and ILS-2000 (both S/T and U ports, ~$2500)
B-Link2 (http://www.cheapisdn.com/) is another affordable simulator with good features.
Not sure about PBXs, haven't tried these. I hope there is someone here who tried them and can give us more inside opinion about it.. | |
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| As Mosam said we went through this recently, have a look at a post originated by Carl Docklands I think - think aout a terminal server as well - it's all in the post.
Good luck. | |
| btroadman 2003-03-18, 7:04 am |
| Thanks for the info on the ISDN SIMS, deifnately points me in the right direction. One final question though...I purchased the CCIE Practical Studies Volume I, does anyone have any other good media ideas, I have noticed there are a lot out there, but most seem to be a little old and still encorporate Token Ring, IPX, etc. I just don't want to waste time on unimportant labs. Thanks again. | |
| haseeb_eng 2003-03-18, 10:51 pm |
| In the CCIE lab exam you have to configure sidn simulator also or only the routers ? Plus will you do physical connectivity and subnetting by yourself ? | |
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| Isn't the routers enough???
They are all cabled and have an initial congiuration including ip addresses - you would be wise checking they have done it correctly - even proctors make mistakes.
This changed when the exam went from two days to one day. If your after a description of the lab environment it's discussed in the practical studies book by Solie. | |
| MadChef 2003-03-19, 6:11 am |
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Originally posted by Mat P
They are all cabled and have an initial congiuration including ip addresses
MANY of the addresses are configured, but not all. ISDN is a perfect example of where there might not be an address configured as they don't want to clue you in as to whether you should do legacy dialing or use dialer interfaces. And if you have to configure a sub interface of some kind, don't expect an address there, either since they won't want to tell you what sort of sub to configure....
At least where I took the lab, the routers were all turned around so you couln't even SEE the cabling, much less actually change it.
MadChef | |
| haseeb_eng 2003-03-22, 11:54 pm |
| But madchef what if problem in the cabling ? Plus i think so it becomes little bit difficult by hiding the cabling structure what do you think ? | |
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| If you suspect a hardware problem (don't troubleshoot more than 10 minutes, this is what Cisco recommends), go and ask the proctor to check it out. He will stop the clock and go check that out for you and when he comes back (and fixes the problem if exists), he will resume the clock. | |
| haseeb_eng 2003-04-06, 5:33 am |
| Thanks for the info mosam |
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