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cciewala

2003-01-04, 8:32 pm

I got 1602r and 2501 with min memory to Run. Does anyone knows if these Router can run FW/IDS/VPN on it after upgrading the ram and flash on them???
haseeb_eng

2003-01-05, 12:53 am

I don't have much knowledge in security industry . I think so 2500 series does'nt support it about 1600 series i don't know . Some more people can guide you better then me . Plus you can check the cisco website also for minimum requirement to install the security ios .
cciewala

2003-01-05, 7:27 am

These router do support these feautures but requires Memory upgrade which is not much on ebay. I just wanna know if some one has done it
Mat P

2003-01-05, 8:25 am

try www.anthonypanda.com for memory.
He's very reliable, for minimum priced postage he gets memory from Hong Kong to UK in 3 - 4 days.
haseeb_eng

2003-01-05, 8:26 am

But 2500 series router does'nt support IDS
cciewala

2003-01-05, 9:45 am

Platform: 2501-2525
Software Feature Sets: ENTERPRISE/FW PLUS IPSEC 56
Release: 12.2.1d ( LD - Limited Deployment )



What is in enterpise ver of ios?? it needs 16 mb of flash and ram
mosam

2003-01-05, 12:28 pm

2500 series --> can run anything in CCIE Security except for IDS and ATM

1600 series --> considered desktop access routers, and will do just fine as well, but again no IDS or ATM. 1602 will do fine even if you dont have a WAN module installed, you will still have one ethernet and one wan interface available.

But for sure, these wont be enough.. you need ISDN, which is available in low price routers like 1600 and 2500..

If we take token ring out of the list, you have (for ISDN), 2503, 2520, 2522, 1603 and 1604.

You will sure need a FR switch, which can be either 2522 or 2520 (both support ISDN as well, so u can hit two birds with one stone).

For ATM and IDS, you will have to go for 2600 router with appropriate modules installed.

Again, if you are thinking of CCIE Security, these two type of routers will do fine. I think you will need at least 9 different routers in your lab in order to test different scenarios and cover all topics.

These 9 routers should cover the following models (minimal cost),

2x2514 or 1605 (for dual ethernet)
1x2503 or 2520 or 1603 or 1604 (for ISDN)
1x2522 (FR switch + ISDN)
2x2610 with ATM module (for ATM and IDS)
1x LS1010 (For ATM switching)
1x cat 2924 (Ethernet switching)
3x2501 or 1601 or 1602 ..

(This doesn't include any servers that you will need for RADIUS, TACACS+, etc.)

I think this will do, of course you can go smaller, but, will have to be on behalf of a certain topic to be covered on the exam..

The whole setup would be quite expensive I am sure, but, this is how CCIE is..

In CCIE R&S, you will have to cover VoIP as well.. I am not sure they included any IP v6 or MPLS in there or not.
mosam

2003-01-05, 12:44 pm

Yea.. forgot to mention PIXes and 2511 (terminal server).. you can take of of the three 2501 off the list and put 2511 instead..

so, it will be only 2x2501 and 1x2511
I think one PIX will do fine, but to test the fail over, get 2 PIXes (You wont need this in R&S)

Again, these kind of routers are not a must, you can buy whatever routers as many as you want as long as they cover the topics of CCIE.

Btw, the routers that support IDS are,

1720, 1750, 2600, 3600, 7100, 7200, RSP7000/7500 and other RSM series routers.

Cat 6500 has an add-in hardware that can function as a hardware IDS. Of course you can still but a complete IDS hardware solution.. its your call.
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