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Yeti-GBR1

2002-04-17, 8:28 am

Ok this may seem like a really dumb question for the more advanced ppl in here , However; what time should it take to setup a 5 router network with 2 ethernet or tokenring and 2 serial interfaces on each router with the following:

IP Addresses for all ints.
IP Host names/adds
Console pass/login
VTY Pass/Login
Enable RIP on all routers

My time is 8.5 minutes per router
My time for IGRP is 9.0/router
My time for EIRGP is 10.5/router

Are these typical or should I aim for faster for the CCIE Lab?

BTW I have not started timing myself for the higher end stuff yet.

I have asked this of an esteemed CCIE and his response was well with in the NDA Cisco makes us lot sign in blood.

His response has directed me to devote more time to understanding the concepts and spotting issues rather than the configuration of the routers/switchs.

Anyone else have any suggestions/comments/ideas?

So far I'm happy with:
RIP, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF, IS-IS, Low end Frame-Relay and BGP.
MadChef

2002-04-18, 7:46 am

My thoughts on the subject:

It's hard to say, because you don't do everything on a per router basis. Part of the one day lab is that you're no longer required to provide interface addressing. All you common configurations for all routers should be scripted so you can just paste it in. This should include any command aliases, line configurations, enable password, etc. You don't want to waste time typing this in each time.
Instead, you're going to need to practice setting up all the things necessary to configure complex layer 2 topologies (think a mixture of point to point sub-interfaces, multipoint subs, and physical interfaces all over frame relay which you'll see in any lab prep) and then how to configure your protocol over this topology.
So instead of concentrating on how long it takes you to do something, focus on how long it takes you to configure your protocols over a complex layer 2 topology. The understanding of the behavior of these protocls is far more important than the time it takes you to simply configure the protocols. When you can look at a complex core and immediately know exactly how you'll have to set up your layer 2 stuff and routing protocols and can then configure all of this without making a mistake or leaving out a step, then I think you're where you should be. Unless you type by hunting and pecking with one hand, you'll be able to configure this in plenty of time. If you have to configure any part of your proctocols and L2 stuff by trial and error, then you're totally screwed.
Also, all the lab prep material uses OSPF in the core and IGRP, EIGRP and RIP in the periphery. The behavior of OSPF over NBMA is more complex, so you really need to spend a lot of time focusing on that to understand it.

MadChef
Dillon

2002-04-18, 9:24 am

Madchef

Are we to expect the usual lack of clarity (as found on all Cisco exams) with the tasks that are set in the lab. I have heard several horror stories regarding lab candidates asking the proctor for clarification on some of the tasks set in his/her lab & received little response.

Learning all I need to know in order to pass the lab is one thing, but being able to guess exactly what is being required of me is another thing altogether. Please tell me that the requirements are clearly stated & this will not be a test of my psychic ability!

Dillon
MadChef

2002-04-18, 10:34 am

I felt all the tasks in my lab were clearly defined. I did ask the proctor one thing. I was trying to read something into the question that wasn't there and he told me not to read anything into the question that wasn't explicitly in the question. Simple as that.

For what it's worth, I've also never really felt that any of Cisco's other questions were really vague if I knew the material well.

MadChef
Yeti-GBR1

2002-04-19, 4:40 am

Thanks to one & all for your input..excellent info...filed in the system for later retrieval...now where did I put that pencil & paper...
jcash2000

2002-04-20, 8:52 am

quote:
Originally posted by MadChef
My thoughts on the subject:

It's hard to say, because you don't do everything on a per router basis. Part of the one day lab is that you're no longer required to provide interface addressing. All you common configurations for all routers should be scripted so you can just paste it in. This should include any command aliases, line configurations, enable password, etc. You don't want to waste time typing this in each time.

MadChef



What term program is used? I heard that it is Hyperterm, but is one allowed to make macros. I didn't think scripting/macros can be done with hyperterminal.
Dillon

2002-04-22, 2:57 am

I'm pretty sure that it is Hyperterm & by scripting I think MadChef means you write the config out in a text editor & just cut & paste it in when required.

Dillon
MadChef

2002-04-22, 5:25 am

quote:
Originally posted by Dillon
by scripting I think MadChef means you write the config out in a text editor & just cut & paste it in when required.



That's what I meant by scripting. And lets just say that I'm glad I didn't spend any time learning the all the little inconstancies with Hyperterm.

MadChef
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