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enforcer

2004-06-24, 11:35 am

This may have been asked before, but have any of you Linux guys 'Ghosted' a linux drive successfully.
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-24, 11:41 am

Yes.
enforcer

2004-06-24, 11:44 am

Which version did you use?
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-24, 12:15 pm

Norton Ghost 2003. The situation is a bit complicated as you can see from Norton's write up on it here: here.

There is Linux paritioner that may come in handy in situations like this also:

http://www.partimage.org/

Hope this helps.
ccieToBe

2004-06-24, 12:20 pm

Haven't tried using Ghost with Linux, but dd and works well for copying partitions.
enforcer

2004-06-24, 12:27 pm

quote:
Originally posted by sacredcowpaddy
Norton Ghost 2003. The situation is a bit complicated as you can see from Norton's write up on it here: here.

There is Linux paritioner that may come in handy in situations like this also:

http://www.partimage.org/

Hope this helps.




Hmmm, went to that symantec link. Pass the aspirin.
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-24, 12:59 pm

Try "man dd" like ccieToBe suggested. It will copy a disk easily. That's what it was designed for.
Boulware5

2004-06-24, 2:00 pm

I use Norton Ghost to backup my Linux box all the time. Has it worked? Well it copies the images. I can't say for 100% it works because I have never had to use the images. But I assume it would. I just ghost my boot partition and my root partition. It obviously won't make sense to ghost your swap partition.

With dd, it will also copy your unused space. So I would tend to avoid that. A simple way to back up is to use NFS and mount a big drive from another computer over NFS then use the dump command. Then to restore, use the restore command (after you mkfs and mount the drive).
enforcer

2004-06-24, 2:12 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Boulware5
So I would tend to avoid that. A simple way to back up is to use NFS and mount a big drive from another computer over NFS then use the dump command. Then to restore, use the restore command (after you mkfs and mount the drive).



OK,what is NFS?

What is the dump command?

what is mkfs (I guess make file system)?

Hmm, how nice to feel out of ones depths here.



NB I am about to hit google
Boulware5

2004-06-24, 2:30 pm

quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
OK,what is NFS?

What is the dump command?

what is mkfs (I guess make file system)?

Hmm, how nice to feel out of ones depths here.



NB I am about to hit google



dump command is used for backups. NFS is the networking filesystem used by *nix to share resources. mkfs is "make file system"
enforcer

2004-06-24, 2:40 pm

can I have just two drives in one PC and not use the NFS?
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-24, 2:44 pm

NFS stands for network file system. Essentially it means that there is a directory or resource than one computer shares with another. For example, when one server boots up, it will allow another predefined machine to access a share just like in a Windows network. It's usually used in conjunction with NIS (like a Windows domain).

"dump" is a command that examines files on a filesystem and determines which files need to be backed up. Usually thay are copied to disk or tape or some sort of backup media.

"mkfs" is used to create a file system on a storage device.
freak

2004-06-24, 2:46 pm

quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
can I have just two drives in one PC and not use the NFS?



yes, but only if you ask nicely, and if you eat all your peas

(For some reason, I actually find this funny... go figure.)
Boulware5

2004-06-24, 2:50 pm

quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
can I have just two drives in one PC and not use the NFS?


Just think of NFS as windows file sharing for Linux. If you want to also share windows resources, you would use SAMBA.
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-24, 3:28 pm

quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
can I have just two drives in one PC and not use the NFS?


There is no reason to use NFS unless youhave more than one computer that you need to access shares on. For one computer, it does not apply. You can have as many drives one on computer as you like without resorting to NFS. Logical Volume Management might come in handy, depending on how you wish to use them.
enforcer

2004-06-24, 5:41 pm

Thanks for the above, but I meant can I have two drives and copy one exactly from the other?
freak

2004-06-24, 5:47 pm

wouldn't that just be like RAID 1?
enforcer

2004-06-24, 5:59 pm

There's no flies on you.









OK I have a Linux TV system server that has thrown it's harddrive out of the pram.

I have a replacement blank harddrive.

I have another Linux TV server which has a brand spanking new install on it.

what I want to do is copy the working Harddrive onto the blank hardrive.


Therefore if I can slave the blank harddrive in the working server abd then copy the system/data whatever onto the blank one. I will be happy.
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-24, 10:01 pm

Run this from bash:

# dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=1k conv=sync,noerror

if = infile, of = outfile
/dev/hda = first IDE disk
/dev/hdb = second IDE disk
Deja-vue

2004-06-24, 10:11 pm

quote:
Originally posted by sacredcowpaddy
Run this from bash:

# dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=1k conv=sync,noerror

if = infile, of = outfile
/dev/hda = first IDE disk
/dev/hdb = second IDE disk



excellent explanation.

dd if= (source) of= (destination)

I use DD often to copy TiVo-Drives.
freak

2004-06-24, 11:38 pm

that's quite the sig file
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-25, 9:12 am

quote:
Originally posted by freak
that's quite the sig file


I prefer: Single Desperate Geek Looking For Meaningless Sex.
freak

2004-06-25, 9:16 am

true... but why does it have to be meaningless?
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-25, 9:45 am

quote:
Originally posted by freak
true... but why does it have to be meaningless?


Meaningful sex leads to divorce and alimony in my experience. :|
freak

2004-06-25, 9:50 am

Ouch!

In mine, it has lead to 3 kids and a wonderful wife... I hope my story remains the same
sacredcowpaddy

2004-06-25, 9:55 am

Three kids here too and an evil ex-wife! Guess that's what I get for paying more attention to the console than to the lady, huh? Best of luck to you.
freak

2004-06-25, 9:57 am

thanks, and sorry to hear about the evil ex-wife
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