Linux/Unix - New starting study

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New starting study

adam salam

2004-01-12, 8:47 am

Hi linux/unix guys and gals

I am new to unix like to start my unix certification study

what are the certifications types cuold be awarded and the study materials?

is there any evalution software for study reasons provided by unix.

thanks

Tarzanboy

2004-01-12, 1:03 pm

Are you interested in UNIX or LINUX?

With UNIX, there is the BSD family, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD, all of which are free. Sun's Solaris charges $20 for the download, IIRC. There is a whole slew of others, like AIX, HP-UX, OS/380, etc. Sun offers certifications for Solaris and HP offers one for HP-UX.

With Linux, the majority of the OSes are free, but keep in mind that some are friendlier than others. RedHat, Fedora, Mandrake, Gentoo, SuSE, Slackware, Dynebolic and Mepis are popular distributions. LPI and Linux+ are among the certs offered for Linux.

Cheers,
TB

adam salam

2004-01-12, 3:37 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Tarzanboy
Are you interested in UNIX or LINUX?

With UNIX, there is the BSD family, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD, all of which are free. Sun's Solaris charges $20 for the download, IIRC. There is a whole slew of others, like AIX, HP-UX, OS/380, etc. Sun offers certifications for Solaris and HP offers one for HP-UX.

With Linux, the majority of the OSes are free, but keep in mind that some are friendlier than others. RedHat, Fedora, Mandrake, Gentoo, SuSE, Slackware, Dynebolic and Mepis are popular distributions. LPI and Linux+ are among the certs offered for Linux.

Cheers,
TB

Thanks alot for the great information

I have downloaded a an image for Linux Suse, does that give me the same environment of the original Unix and can I depend on it to prepare for the exam?

also I am looking for resources, so what should I looking for when I search, mean what is the name of Unix certificate, for example MCP, CCNA.....

so I can find the suitable study guides

thanks

adam salam

2004-01-12, 4:11 pm

I am not familiar with this type of installation, in this FTP server
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/iso/1.6.1/

I have found a lot of stuff and ISO images, so which file or files I have to download to get the complete Unix system, should I download all the i386 image.

adam salam

2004-01-13, 3:12 pm

Ok I have download an image for NetBSD "Net" here sounds good

at least better than FreeBSD

, anyway lets starting the business, and burn it in a cd and it works fine, machine boot from cd and installed it,
seems to be there is no GUI for NetBSD or FreeBSD unlike Linux flavors

Now I am looking for the best cetification in Unix system, I have found alot of information in the internet which is confusing me, but I have stoped at some thing called it self SCSA .

at
http://www.smu-training.com/plano/c...ht-for-you.html

was that worth the effort?

bsdboy

2004-01-13, 9:18 pm

SCSA is the Solaris System Adnministration exams (two required). Both are jokes. HP-UX and RHCE are the hardest Unix cerst that I have taken. They may be respected a lot more. AIX certs are likewise not worth the paper they are written on. Linux+ or LPI are good starts but way too basic.

The best study materials are hundreds of hours spent hacking your OS of choice.

adam salam

2004-01-14, 4:35 am

quote:
Originally posted by bsdboy
SCSA is the Solaris System Adnministration exams (two required). Both are jokes. HP-UX and RHCE are the hardest Unix cerst that I have taken. They may be respected a lot more. AIX certs are likewise not worth the paper they are written on. Linux+ or LPI are good starts but way too basic.

The best study materials are hundreds of hours spent hacking your OS of choice.

Hi BSD Boy name sounds one of Unix guru

do you mean that SCSA doesn't count toward UNIX CERTIFIED?

If I studied Sun Solaris, doesn't that mean I can work on any Unix platform?

I thought all Unix system flavors are the environment, should I study each one separatly?

mean for example Linux (which has many flavors), Solaris, NetBSD, FreeBSD !!!

which one of them is recognised in the job market?

please your opinion

bsdboy

2004-01-14, 7:54 am

SCSA is indeed a Unix certification, but the exams are so easy as to not be worth much. And yes, if you have worked on any Unix-type platfor, you can easily switch to almost any other with ease. The major differences from an administrator's point of view will be the package management system and the way the file system is laid out. As for what is the most marketable, I would say that despite the advances in Linux recently, most Unix shops take the "big names" seriously . . . AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, etc. Linux is necessary to know now as well. But get familiar with one (especially using the command line) and you will easily be able to go back and forth between systems. BSD has never really caught on despite being a superior system to many of the open source and even closed source alternatives, but learning it is child's play once you learn Linux. All Unix certs are recongized to a degree, but Unix experience counts for much more than certs in our domain. Concentrate on learning your OS rather than on geting certs. If you think a cert is necessary, getting certified in just one flavor of Unix or Linux should be fine.

adam salam

2004-01-14, 8:11 am

quote:
Originally posted by bsdboy
SCSA is indeed a Unix certification, but the exams are so easy as to not be worth much. And yes, if you have worked on any Unix-type platfor, you can easily switch to almost any other with ease. The major differences from an administrator's point of view will be the package management system and the way the file system is laid out. As for what is the most marketable, I would say that despite the advances in Linux recently, most Unix shops take the "big names" seriously . . . AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, etc. Linux is necessary to know now as well. But get familiar with one (especially using the command line) and you will easily be able to go back and forth between systems. BSD has never really caught on despite being a superior system to many of the open source and even closed source alternatives, but learning it is child's play once you learn Linux. All Unix certs are recongized to a degree, but Unix experience counts for much more than certs in our domain. Concentrate on learning your OS rather than on geting certs. If you think a cert is necessary, getting certified in just one flavor of Unix or Linux should be fine.

Thanks

quote:
Concentrate on learning your OS rather than on geting certs. If you think a cert is necessary, getting certified in just one flavor of Unix or Linux should be fine.

Shore I don't want only to be certified, I will do my best to understand the stff insideout like I am doing with MS stuff, but you know, unfortunately to be recognised as an IT personal you should present some documents. that's what we have here before even they talking with you or even before seeing your face you have to provide that pace of paper after that they maybe accept you!!!!

bsdboy

2004-01-14, 11:20 am

I see your point. In that case you may consider the Solaris certs. As I said, they are not difficult, and Solaris is a very popular platform. The other popular unix cert is RHCE, but it is rather pricey, ao you need to be really prepared before you takes it.

adam salam

2004-01-14, 2:43 pm

quote:
Originally posted by bsdboy
I see your point. In that case you may consider the Solaris certs. As I said, they are not difficult, and Solaris is a very popular platform. The other popular unix cert is RHCE, but it is rather pricey, ao you need to be really prepared before you takes it.

Thank you very much for the valuable advices you gave me what I need to start

bsdboy

2004-01-14, 3:18 pm

Good luck. And remember Solaris is available for the Intel platform so even if you do not haves a Sparc you can install on a Pc and work your way through the examples.

adam salam

2004-01-14, 6:01 pm

quote:
Originally posted by bsdboy
Good luck. And remember Solaris is available for the Intel platform so even if you do not haves a Sparc you can install on a Pc and work your way through the examples.

Thanks

I decided to start study for the Solaris 9.0 SCSA, and choose Sybex study guide do you think it's ok, cause I have used Sybex for my CCNA, MCSA and found it worth the mony.

I stick with it

any opinion

bsdboy

2004-01-14, 7:06 pm

I've gone with Sybex for most my certs and They have done a good job on the whole. WOuld be a good place to start at any rate.

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