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RHCE/RHCT, where to start from?
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| mosam 2003-10-27, 11:40 pm |
| Hi all,
I am trying to get into RHCT or RHCE, and not sure how to start. I have "not bad" experience in unix generally, mainly on Solaris. But been little bit rusty, my last time on a Solaris system was 3 years ago.
Not sure how to start in Red Hat certification. Shall I shoot for RHCE directly or take RHCT as my first step?
In both cases, any recommendation on a book or a certian material to start with?
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| Papiya 2003-10-30, 12:42 pm |
| Haven't tried for this one yet, it's too expensive, but do you have Red Hat installed on a server that you can play with? That would be a goos start. | |
| ClintonN 2003-10-30, 1:06 pm |
| If you take the RHCE and fail you may still get the RHCT in the same exam. I guess it's like if you need 80% for RHCE and get 75% on the exam they give you the RHCT. I wouldn't dare attempt the RHCE because I don't have that much experience with it. I am thinking about going to Raleigh and taking the RHCT class that includes the exam on the last day. They have the same deal with the RHCE but it's pricey. | |
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| Yes, I have Red Hat 9.0.
Playing with the server would be nice, but I still would have the same question, "where to start", I have no linux experience what so ever.
Have never had any certification training. It has always been selfstudy for my MCSE, my both CCIE (Security and R&S), my CCNP, etc.
So, would a course be a good start you mean? They have training facility in here in Atlanta, I can check this, but it is still pricey though. Not sure as well that courses would do much, they are always too condensed and its not easy to digest the information in little time.. I will think about it anyway. | |
| ClintonN 2003-10-30, 4:04 pm |
| Yes it's real expensive for the classes. I would go to Red Hat's site and just get the objectives for the exam and work off that. If you can do self study for the CCIE I don't think you would have a problem with self study for RHCE. I on the other hand need a little bit of structure.. well at least lately. | |
| Papiya 2003-10-30, 4:06 pm |
| Well, to get the most out of any course, you will need to be quite familiar with the operating system before hand. That way you won't be confused with the basics when you get around to doing real system administration. I would suggest that you get a copy of the Red Hat 9.0 Bible or some similar book and work yourself through it. It shows you how to use RH as a workstation, then you learn to set up a web server, news server, database server, mail server, dns serber, configure a firewall, and so on. After you get a very good grasp of how Red Hat works and how to use the command line and tools available to you, you would be in a much better position to get more out of the class. If it were me, I would take the RH class before I took the exam. Before I throw away so much money on something, I want to be sure I am prepared, and getting the info from an official training center seems to be the best way. | |
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| mosam 2003-10-30, 10:29 pm |
| Thanks for both ClintonN and Papiya. I have to admit though "Papiya" that whenever I see your reply I get little bit scattered by the picture you have in your signature. 
Thanks for the link. I think this would be very helpful
Here is the thing, I am not trying to start the RHCE or RHCT just for the sake of having the certificate, all I want is to learn, and then would be nice if I add the "RHCE" to my resume. Will a linux+ certification do as well?
Check this article..
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P16C11466
It has the "Certification Top 10 Lists". Sure enough, CCIE and RHCE are on the top of the list of "Best Hands-on programs". "Linux+" for example is not in the list, but if I would learn from it my linux ABC till Z, I would go for that.
Still not sure which Linux program to pick. | |
| Papiya 2003-10-31, 7:34 am |
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Originally posted by mosam
Thanks for both ClintonN and Papiya. I have to admit though "Papiya" that whenever I see your reply I get little bit scattered by the picture you have in your signature.
Thanks for the link. I think this would be very helpful
Here is the thing, I am not trying to start the RHCE or RHCT just for the sake of having the certificate, all I want is to learn, and then would be nice if I add the "RHCE" to my resume. Will a linux+ certification do as well?
Check this article..
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P16C11466
It has the "Certification Top 10 Lists". Sure enough, CCIE and RHCE are on the top of the list of "Best Hands-on programs". "Linux+" for example is not in the list, but if I would learn from it my linux ABC till Z, I would go for that.
Still not sure which Linux program to pick.
Thanks for the compliment.  Personally I would not bother with the Linux+ if I had it to do over again. The test is extremely basic and doesn't hold a light to RHCE, although aiming for it would be a good first step. As you already seem to have some primo certs, I would aim for the RHCE but it will take about a year before you will be ready I would say if you are new to Linux. Red Hat is the corporate Linux leader and RHCE does require a performance based lab, like few other certs, so it would be very valuable. I would go for the RHCE if I had the money, but that's not an option for me. But anything I can do to help, please let me know. | |
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| Well, if RHCE is too advanced, I can start with RHCT as an entry certificate for RHCE.
Just curious, what would I need in a lab for both RHCT and RHCE? | |
| Papiya 2003-10-31, 3:35 pm |
| Not sure about RHCT, but for RHCE there is a written test and two labs . . . one an installation lab and the other is a troubleshooting lab, so I imagine they set you up in a networked environment where almost anything could be wrong, or set you up with some weird hardware so that you have to pass kernel parameters on the command line to get the OS to recongize some piece of hardware. Linus is a NOS all the way though, so anything you do is within the context of a network, so I reckon you'd need a number of machines, probably with some NFS and Samba shares, as well as running certain standard services such as NIS, sendmail, BIND and Apache. | |
| DSComputers 2003-11-02, 9:17 pm |
| I found "Linux Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition" to be a great book on linux.
From basic to not so basic, I think it will be more than enough to pass linux+ (what I'm going for one of these days) but prolly not much more than a good start to RHCE stuff.
You can get it at amazon.com and check out the index and stuff. Hope this helps, and good luck  | |
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| adam salam 2004-01-15, 1:15 pm |
| Hi there 
when I started my MS certification study I didn't face a lot of dificulty finding required materials to pass the MCP exams.
now I am trying to find a study guide for RHCE the only one I found is the Sybex published in 2000, which I don't think it covers the last requirments.
also another thing is how many exams and what are the exam numbers for that certificate.
I think I should stick with SCSA which more clear cetification path!!!
any help please | |
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| ClintonN 2004-01-15, 2:57 pm |
| Yes kind of like the CCIE minus the written exam. | |
| adam salam 2004-01-16, 5:03 am |
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Originally posted by ClintonN
Yes kind of like the CCIE minus the written exam.
I don't know what CCIE exam like!
by the way I did't find a local test center for RHCE, do they using another exam name in VUE or Prometric web sites? | |
| ClintonN 2004-01-16, 8:49 am |
| You should be able to find a testing center through RedHat's website. There is also a few assesment tests to see how much you know on the objectives of each exam. They also offer training classes at their locations (provided they have one near you.)
http://www.redhat.com/training/ | |
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| ClintonN 2004-01-16, 3:06 pm |
| Try mandrake if you haven't already. It's very user friendly. Once you get the hang of the basic commands try some other versions. It just takes awhile to get out of the M$ way of thinking but eventually it will make sense to you (and maybe more sense).
Don't worry about exams right now just play around with it. |
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