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featherbabe

2003-05-31, 12:20 am

Hi all!

I am wanting to learn/teach myself Linux.

I am looking for some decent books that are accurate...

Figured I would pose the question...BEFORE I went to the bookstore!

At this point it is kind of like going to the grocery store hungry...
Boulware5

2003-05-31, 12:51 am

This is a very common question. There is so much good information/tutorials out there on the net that you can save money and not buy any books.

I say download RedHat 9 and read through their documentation. They have excellent manuals in pdf and html file formats. redhat.com (you can find it through there). In my opinion, RedHat has the best documentation of any Linux distro.

And of course, ask any questions here.

BTW, here is one heck of a resource: http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
featherbabe

2003-05-31, 6:31 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Boulware5
This is a very common question. There is so much good information/tutorials out there on the net that you can save money and not buy any books.

I say download RedHat 9 and read through their documentation. They have excellent manuals in pdf and html file formats. redhat.com (you can find it through there). In my opinion, RedHat has the best documentation of any Linux distro.

And of course, ask any questions here.

BTW, here is one heck of a resource: http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/



Thanks...

I travel alot and don't have time to print and put together manuals of sorts.... and I was actually looking for something with a binding...that was easy to lug around the airports and save the printed out stuff for binders at my desk...and still be learning while I am away from home...

I hear Running Linux(?) by oreilly is good... do you think it would serve well for this purpose?

Thanks for the links and info...
Boulware5

2003-05-31, 6:44 pm

quote:
Originally posted by featherbabe
Thanks...

I travel alot and don't have time to print and put together manuals of sorts.... and I was actually looking for something with a binding...that was easy to lug around the airports and save the printed out stuff for binders at my desk...and still be learning while I am away from home...

I hear Running Linux(?) by oreilly is good... do you think it would serve well for this purpose?

Thanks for the links and info...



Yeah, I don't have that but I have heard good things about it.
ghaouf

2003-05-31, 7:13 pm

Boulware5 how did you learn linux??
Boulware5

2003-05-31, 7:19 pm

quote:
Originally posted by ghaouf
Boulware5 how did you learn linux??


Simple. By using it.
ghaouf

2003-05-31, 7:23 pm

how long did it take you to learn it though ??a year ??
Boulware5

2003-05-31, 7:28 pm

I dunno...Depends what your definition of learning is.
ghaouf

2003-05-31, 11:01 pm

well say learn it for the linux+ exam how long did it take??
Boulware5

2003-05-31, 11:05 pm

quote:
Originally posted by ghaouf
well say learn it for the linux+ exam how long did it take??


I dunno, maybe a few months.
ghaouf

2003-05-31, 11:25 pm

well that is not that bad
thanks Boulware5
prezbedard

2003-06-01, 12:38 am

quote:
Originally posted by ghaouf
well that is not that bad
thanks Boulware5



ghaouf,

You are very eager to learn I commend that.
I do have a few pieces of advice for you.

First learning and becoming certified are not always one in the same even if do study and learn the material.

Second attempting to get every cert out there "Cert marathoning geek" is not the best approach or practical.

Take some time to learn by doing and doing often.

Remember experience is the key to learning.

You are young so take your time in learning what ever it is that interests you or makes you think. You have more then enough time.
Boulware5

2003-06-01, 12:48 am

Yes, good point prez. Mr. ghaouf here is trying, so it seems, to see how many certs he can get. Relax, ghaouf, you don't even have your first job yet. You'll have plenty of time for certifications. It's better to really learn something well than to study from a book and pass a test. In fact, some in the Linux community even look down to certifications. Basically their attitude is if you want to learn Linux, use it, read manuals, and howtos instead of studying for and taking an exam. That's kinda the general feeling I see since I occasionally (probably more than occasionally) hang out in Linux message boards and chat channels.

And also, ghaouf.... You told me you are 17. Enjoy life, get out some, you are young. Why are you going to stay at home all the time studying? When I was 17 I was always outside enjoying the outdoors (and during that time I was a newbie to computers and used AOL. ) It's nice for someone at your age to get a few certifications, but it seems to me you want to get every certification out there before you turn 19.
mikop

2003-06-01, 3:57 am

it drives me crazy when ever I see ppl who want to get certified in something completely new... instead of the natural question of how do I become proficient in it... they want to know how they can be certified in it...

linux cert has no value other than RHC*... this is imo the realm of old school... of ppl who learned... first from using a terminal at their first C or whatever course in school then later learn to program and function on it...

ask your self... 6 months of new user on this or even microsoft?... does that even qualify as *power user*? 6 months to be cert? sure, how useful? not at all... you live and breath this crap.
thecomeons

2003-06-01, 4:55 am

quote:
Originally posted by mikop
linux cert has no value other than RHC*...


i agree. linux+, while it seems worthwhile to prove you have a certain knowledge of linux (and at no point am i trying to put down the people who have earned the cert), but linux+ seems to me to be no more likely to get a person a job than a+ alone.

an employer who uses m$ o/s and applications would probably choose an m$ certified tech over somebody who isn't, ditto novell, cisco et al.

if redhat is the main linux distro used in businesses, the rhce should be what is aimed at.

ghaouf, if you want to learn linux, i suggest (if you are a newbie to it), that you continue with your m$ studies, but have a linux box too, and six months or a year down the line, if you have time, or want the break from m$ study, then consider the option of taking the linux+ or going for rhce.
jgribble

2003-06-10, 2:03 pm

A great book to start out on is a Unix book by Mark Sobell.

It is an older book, but if you really want to learn, and I dont mean learning how to click a icon, I am talking actual commands, than you need a book like this one. When I started trying to learn Unix/Linux, a guy told me to get this book, and I read it, and wondered sometimes why I was reading something so old, but beleive me, you will need backward knowledge when you get in the field.
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