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ccieToBe

2003-01-22, 7:34 pm

For those of you who haven't noticed yet, the ISO images for FreeBSD 5.0-release are now on the FTP servers

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/announce.html
bass2k1

2003-01-22, 10:18 pm

Noticed, downloaded, but yet to install

Regards

sebastiaan.rothman@bhpbilliton.com
Mr. Linux Guy

2003-01-23, 6:01 am

Downloading them now. I am still running 4.7.
freak

2003-01-23, 8:05 am

is it stable? Are you running it in a production environment yet? What are your impressions of it so far?
ccieToBe

2003-01-23, 11:25 am

I haven't seen any indication that it's not stable, but this code is much less tested then the 4.x code, so there may still be some bugs lurking. I'm sticking with 4.x for my servers for now but am upgrading all my FreeBSD workstations. I'll probably start swiching servers over around the time of 5.1 or 5.2.

I'm going to load it on a test server tommarow. I haven't use the 5.x branch in a while. Of course, now I'll have to get a multiprocessor PC to test out SMPng
freak

2003-01-23, 11:47 am

well there you have it: a perfect reason why you should get yourself more toys! YEAH!!!
tohrt

2003-01-27, 8:57 am

Explain why FreeBSD 5 is 2 disks & 4.7 was 4 [install disk - fix it - 2 extra packages disks ]. Is 5 just an upgrade to be installed over the top of 4.7 or what?

ccieToBe

2003-01-27, 11:13 am

By disks I take it you mean CDs? There probably just aren't as many packages put together yet for 5.0. I always just download the mini-ISO and download the latest ports from the 'net instead of grabbing all those ISOs.

You have the option of either upgrading to 5.0 or doing a fresh load. make world's kind of a hairy process. It might be easier to just tar key directories (/etc, /home...), do a fresh install of 5.0, then copy over your old files to the new install.
tohrt

2003-01-30, 5:34 am

quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe
By disks I take it you mean CDs? There probably just aren't as many packages put together yet for 5.0. I always just download the mini-ISO and download the latest ports from the 'net instead of grabbing all those ISOs.

You have the option of either upgrading to 5.0 or doing a fresh load. make world's kind of a hairy process. It might be easier to just tar key directories (/etc, /home...), do a fresh install of 5.0, then copy over your old files to the new install.



Disks generally mean CD's when ISO's are involved.

Thank you for the reply - But I'd already figured out that much. I was looking for a more definitive - verbose explanation.

Thank you anyway.
ccieToBe

2003-01-30, 9:37 am

If you have any specific questions I'll try to provide specific answers
tohrt

2003-01-30, 10:16 am

quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe
If you have any specific questions I'll try to provide specific answers


OK Thanks

I was wondering what was up.
Is this normal?
Do they release something that compared to the previous version, I would call as incomplete.
Or is this supposed to be an upgrade & they have no further plans on adding anything to this package.
If they plan on adding to this package untill it is as complete as 4.7, why did they release it now?

Like, are they going to finish it, or is this it. I personally would rather download all the ISO's when complete. I don't like peacemealing anything together. I get enough of that with M$'s 100+ Mb patches & Sp's.

I am not familer with BSD or how they do things. I just installed 4.7 a couple of weeks ago on a test machine. I just couldn't understand why the release was as it is. It doesn't make sense to me. I've seen no other software done this way.
ccieToBe

2003-01-30, 12:16 pm

Keep in mind that 5.0 is a "dot zero" release. It's not recommended as a production server OS yet. If you want to run a production server, stick with the 4.x branch for now. If you want to learn what's up and coming, give 5.0 a try. Most of my servers run FreeBSD 4.x ranging from 4.4 to 4.7, and I have no intention of upgrading any to 5.x at least until 5.1 is released.

As far as packages go, the ISOs for more probably haven't been posted yet because this is a .0 release. If you want to get serious about BSD I strongly suggest using the ports in most cases anyway. For default installs they're easier to use, and if you want to specify compilatin parameters you have that option. Here's a quick and dirty how to for installing from the ports collection:

cd /usr/ports/category/port-name
make install clean

IMO that's much easier then dealing with packages. There are a lot more ports then packages too:

http://freebsd.org/ports
tohrt

2003-01-30, 2:03 pm

Thanks for the info - very helpful

Ports are in networking !

Why they had to make a package management system [at least that's my take on it]& refer to it as ports is nothing but confusing.

So far I'm finding Solaris to be more user friendly than FreeBSD. So I doubt I will be doing much with it.

Thank you for your input
ccieToBe

2003-01-30, 3:11 pm

That's suprising, I've had just the opposite experience with Solaris. That may have something to do with my running it on x86 hardware though.
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