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| Paisleyskye 2002-02-27, 3:31 pm |
| I'm doing a new book on Linux Networking Security, and I need some unique ideas that aren't covered in any other Linux network security books that are currently on the market.
If you have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know. | |
| dagger 2002-02-27, 3:51 pm |
| That's great
but like aren't you suppose to
know Linux+ security inside and out
since your writing a book on it,
rather then asking "us" what should be in it?
Just curious.....
Are you Linux certified in anything? | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-02-27, 3:56 pm |
| Not really. Linux+ is very basic, and does not focus that much on security I don't think. Besides, it would only cover well-known areas and that is not whatit seems like Paisleyskye is after. | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-27, 4:02 pm |
| Dagger - you misunderstood my question. I need something unique that is has never been covered before. Something that concerns people in this forum about Linux security - but that until this point has been neglected by other authors.
All I want are concerns that are unique and that have not been documented before. Something that I can dig into some research with, setup some environments for, and conquer. See what I mean? I don't think I'm explaining it right. | |
| cross36 2002-02-27, 4:34 pm |
| Paisley I am going to keep you in mind with that book idea, any ideas or words that come across to me, I'll shall reference the material to you.
Best of luck on the goal | |
| ccieToBe 2002-02-27, 4:34 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Paisleyskye
I'm doing a new book on Linux Networking Security, and I need some unique ideas that aren't covered in any other Linux network security books that are currently on the market.
If you have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know.
Unique ideas? Hmm, the only things I can think of that haven't been covered in enough detail in any books that I've read are using portsentry, read/append only storage mediums and securing wireless networks.
- Be carefull about using portsentry. Someone could easily use it to DOS your network by sending spoofed packets with source addresses that match IPs that users commonly contact (ie any ASPs that you use).
- Portsentry can be used to do things like fire off an email or execute a program whenever it's triggered rather then simply blocking the source. I haven't actually tried this yet but it seems to me that it could be configured to do something like send the offender a warning message or ping of death. Emailing the offender's ISP is another possibility although I'm not sure how you'd go about getting a database of what ISPs control what subnets.
- If your firewall has a read only or append only filesystem (ie, you boot off a CD or all logging is written to a CD-R) that makes it very difficult for an intruder to cover their tracks. You can't exactly swap out CDs without physical access. Certain partition types like ffs can set to append or read only as well. I think ext3 is capable of this too although I'm not sure.
- Wireless networking seems to be taking off lately and it seems that there are a lot of misconceptions about its security. An analysis of using WEP, 802.1x, SSH, IPSec, directional antennas, MAC filtering, etc would be nice.
That's all I can think of. If I get any other ideas I'll be sure to let you know. | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-27, 5:02 pm |
| Thanks ccietobe: That is just the kind of fresh, unique idea I was looking for. | |
| dagger 2002-02-27, 5:10 pm |
| Hey The VMS Kid
sorry I mean just Linux
(I'm studying for the Linux+ that's probably why I put the + there)
But I was asking Paisleyskye
if she was certified in Linux security?
I didn't see any Linux certs on her
profile so ........ya know......
How do you write a book on something
if you have no certs under that topic.
For Security.......wouldn't you need about
at least 5 - 10 years experience so write a reputable book on the topic ......
And like RCHE and CISSP certified?
We are talking about security here.....
Not A+
Just asking......... | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-27, 6:47 pm |
| Dagger,
But I was asking Paisleyskye
if she was certified in Linux security?
I didn't see any Linux certs on her
profile so ........ya know......
In answer to your question - no I don't have any Linux certifications. But I do have extensive experience with Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and Solaris. The only time that a particular certification is a requirement for writing a book is when you are writing a certification book.
Of course I had to have A+ certification to write the A+ book, because it was a certification book. But now, my agent is steering me away from certification and into mainstream and Open Source because it is a wider market.
How do you write a book on something
if you have no certs under that topic.
I wrote a Project 2000 book, but I'm not certified in Project 2000. I am also doing an Adobe Acrobat book later this year, but I don't have ACE certification.
Certifications are not a requirement for writing books, nor are they are requirement to work in the Industry. Experience can often times be an asset over certification.
For Security.......wouldn't you need about
at least 5 - 10 years experience so write a reputable book on the topic ......
Yep.
We are talking about security here.....
Not A+
Dagger, I hope you meant that last comment in a friendly tone, and not a sarcastic one. Yes, I am A+ certified..Yes, I am the moderator of A+ forums on this and other sites...but that's not all that I am. And thats not all that I've done in the IT Industry. But, now that you've pointed that out, I have removed my certifications from my profile so that nobody will lable me as an MCSE, or as an A+ technician, or think that's all I am and all I do.
I could talk TCPWrappers, SSH, TripWire, etc., till I'm blue in the face, but I was looking for something that was previously untouched. I wanted to come something fresh and new - I don't want to regurgitate what thousands of other writers have written before me. | |
| dagger 2002-02-27, 8:02 pm |
| Paisleyskye
Hi, always a friendly tone with
even when my text doesn't give me justice.
I'm not pointing my finger at you or anything
it's just I've known a few people
who write educational material but the authors of this material are not very skilled in that area.
So the product they put out is not that good.
That is why I was just asking questions, when you were talking about a Linux Security book.
When I noticed on your profile it said
MCSE, and A+.....but no Linux certs
it just made me wonder how qualified you were. I was just wondering because a book on Linux security can be pretty tough I imagine
so I thought a rea "Linux head" would be the one writing the book.
It's just my $0.02 
I meant all that in a nice way
But.......hey, it's your business, you go for it....all the Best! | |
| chodan 2002-02-27, 8:31 pm |
| We use MRTG "multi router traphic grapher" on Redhat based systems it helps us to track abnormal trends such as higher than normal bandwidth usage and the like and is free of course.
I didn`t set it up as I`m not the linux guru in our shop but it I a getting fired up about learning it in more depth. | |
| Boulware5 2002-02-27, 8:36 pm |
| Who cares what letters she has next to her name as long as she knows a lot about it and can write a good book on it. | |
| dagger 2002-02-27, 9:09 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Boulware5
Who cares what letters she has next to her name as long as she knows a lot about it and can write a good book on it.
I see your Certifications are: A+, Network+, Brainbench Computer Fundamentals
Working on: Linux+, CCNA
Don't these "Letters" represent
your knowlege and help prove you know what you doing??
Would employers hire you if you had no certs
and walked in to their office and you just said "I know what I am doing, and I know a lot about it"
Do you think you'd get the job??  | |
| Boulware5 2002-02-27, 9:26 pm |
| What does this have to do with me? I'm saying it shouldn't matter that Tracy has any Linux certs. LOL, do you think Linus Torvalds is Linux+, LPI, RHCE, etc certified? Ok bad example but you get my point.  | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-27, 10:20 pm |
| And I'll bet Bill Gates doesn't have his MCSE!!!
Dagger, the fact of the matter is that although certification may seem like the be all and end all thing - it only is to a certain extent.
Let me put it this way:
Say I walked into a recruiters office with 15 years experience supporting Cheeseball Servers in a Gouda networking environment. During that time, let's say that I had designed several medium to large networks, developed some Mozzeralla applications for clients on the Feta Workstations, and had implemented Parmasean Firewalls. Additionally, I also had experience with the Cheddar distributions. However, let's say that I had no certification whatsoever - not one.
Now lets say Joe Blow, the big computer certification goes into the same office. He has Cheeseball, Gouda, Mozzeral, Feta, Parmesean, and Cheddar certifications, but has no experience. He scored very well on all of his exams, but he has no real hands on experience.
Who do you think gets the job?
Okay, now let's change the scenario a bit, and say that Joe does have 2 years experience working in a Cheesball environment, and still has all of those certifications?
Who do you think get's the job?
The point I'm trying to make, although I think I've gotten severely off track here, is that certifications and the letters beside your name are not the be all and end all in the Industry. And believe it or not, they have only been "hot" for a relatively short period of time.
I feel like rambling, so here is a bit of a history lesson. For those who hate long posts, I'm sorry - but I'm bored.
In 1962 the first computer cert was developed. The CDP or Certificate in Data Processing was released by an Accountant association. (Believe it or not this cert still exists and is now called CCP (Certified Computing Professional) Certification). There were no other new computer certifications on the market until 1970 - the CDP was it.
Then, in 1970 the same company released a new programmers certification. I think it was registered business programmer or something like that.
Between 1974 and 1989 a few more certifications came out but they didn't get very popular, and were nothing to write home about. In 1989, something that would change the IT certification industry forever happened - Novell developed the CNE! The interesting thing about this, is:
1. Novell pretty much started the certification craze as we know it today.
2. CNE certification wasn't originally for Novell network guru's - it was a for people who sold computers.
After the CNE certification was released, it didn't take long until it took off like wildfire. Everyone wanted to take it including those who support Novell networks, so Novell of course had to change the focus to network support and away from sales.
Anyway, Novell certifications were very limited because they dealt with specific versions. Other companies, seeing the success of Novell, jumped on the bandwagon.
In all honesty, the real explosion of IT certifications didn't start until the 1990's. Think of how many people had experience and no certification, because the big boom hadn't started yet. Think of how many of those people still work in the Industry with no certifications. Should we put them down because they have no letters beside their names - Hell No!! These are the people on whom the Industry was founded. They didn't need certifications - they had experience dating back to before certifications existed.
In 1997 there were only 200 IT certificationns available overall. How many do you think there are now? I'd say close to 600 if not more. 1997 was only 5 years ago.
So, as I said, certifications have only been popular and the "in" thing to do for a relatively short period of time. I think the boom was a result of the widespread usage of the Internet, and the development of forums and websites such as this one.
Therefore, the letters beside ones name do not make them what they are. What they've done and what they haven't done makes them what they are.
You never know Dagger - my ex-husband is an MCSE. He got his MCSE in 2000. Okay, he works in Toronto for a very large firm and is the Networking Specialist. He is responsible for managing mail servers, file servers, you name it - his job description is a mile long. But - he works mainly on Novell and Unix platforms. Just because you get a certification in one subject - it doesn't mean that's the niche you are going to be working in. You could be in a hybrid environment of some kind.
Now, as I mentioned before he is an MCSE, and not a CNE or a MCNE - but I'll tell ya somethin' he has so much experience working with Novell products that the fact that he's not certified in it really doesn't matter.
There are many times when experience is just as important, or more important than the certifications and the letters beside your name.
(Again, to those who hate long posts, I apologize, and to those who actually read this whole post - you must be bored too! LOL!) | |
| dagger 2002-02-27, 11:31 pm |
| oops I think I made this thread go off topic........ | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-02-28, 6:36 am |
| Well, remember if an area has not been covered much yet, there will be no certifications in that field. When CompTIA is preparing new certs, they ask for SMEs . . . Subject Matter Experts . . . certified or no makes little difference. Heck, Tracey might qualify for a SME when CompTIA comes out with their Security+ cert! | |
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| Paisleyskye, I think you're fanatstic!..what a post, no nonsense and straight from the hip. | |
| huntert 2002-02-28, 11:38 am |
| Paisleyskye you must have had plastic surgey, your picture was horrible before and now it looks good.
If you want to write a book go into LUG and see what's really going on and stop trying to flame others on.
If you are such a linux expert how come have microsoft on your credentials and no linux tracks like a rhce? LCA? LPI?
You're a linux guru right?
threads like this are very amuzing  | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-02-28, 12:11 pm |
| For one thing, in the Linux world, certs have never been worth as much as in the M$ world. Lots of people I know consider them jokes. Again, I don't think that Linus is certified in anything, but that didn't stop him. | |
| ccieToBe 2002-02-28, 12:23 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by huntert
Paisleyskye you must have had plastic surgey, your picture was horrible before and now it looks good.
If you want to write a book go into LUG and see what's really going on and stop trying to flame others on.
If you are such a linux expert how come have microsoft on your credentials and no linux tracks like a rhce? LCA? LPI?
You're a linux guru right?
threads like this are very amuzing
Why the hostility? Do you really think that someone has to have certs in an area to know what they're doing? AFAIK there aren't any Linux security certs anyway 
Next time you're at a LUG meeting see how many of the gurus actually have ANY *nix related certs. I bet most of them don't. That's mostly because, like VMS said Linux certs aren't worth that much. | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-28, 12:36 pm |
| Huntert:
Paisleyskye you must have had plastic surgey, your picture was horrible before and now it looks good.
Thank you so much for the compliment.
If you want to write a book go into LUG and see what's really going on and stop trying to flame others on.
Huntert, the book has already been contracted and is already in progress and I was just seeking out and researching untouched domains, so to speak. I never once flamed anybody on, nor would I. I sincerely wanted some unique ideas for the final touches. But I can assure you that I will give your concern serious consideration.
If you are such a linux expert how come have microsoft on your credentials and no linux tracks like a rhce? LCA? LPI?
You're a linux guru right?
I would repost the answer to this, but since you seem to be so smart and I wouldn't want to tell a big IT guy how to do anything, because he wouldn't want to have it explained by a woman - so why don't you "research" back through this thread. I think if you do, you are such a big and smart IT guy that you might be able to find the answer to your own question.
A small silly little girl like me couldn't possibly know anything - isn't that right??
threads like this are very amuzing
I'm glad you are enjoying it you big IT guy you. I just love it when you make fun of me. All hail the king! | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-28, 12:42 pm |
| Well guys - that's about as nasty as I get. Unfortunately, I couldn't stop myself from posting that one. Restraint is a virtue I need to work on obviously.
And to seriously answer Hunterts post now:
A. I'm glad you like the new picture. I did not have plastic surgery. Please don't insult me until you have the guts to post your own picture.
B. I've already talked the certification thing until I was blue in the face. The only time an aquisitions editor requires you to have a certain certification to write a book is when you are writing a certification book - at least that has been the case with every aquisitions editor I've ever worked with. This point was made way earlier on this thread - maybe if you read back through it, it might sink in.
C. I never flamed anybody on, as all of the other participants in this thread will agree to. I don't know where you came up with that one.
D. I could have posted that question on a lot of sites. Do you know why I didn't? Do you know why I posted here? Because I have been with Exam Notes for over two years now - because I consider the people here to be almost like family. Because I respect the ideas of people here - and moreover, because I would have felt guilty posting the question anywhere else without posting it here on this site, where I feel at home.
E. I'm glad you find threads like this amuzing.
That's it. I can't be bothered with this anymore. Why am I sitting here pounding on my keyboard defending myself to some little guy who insulted me in his first sentence??????????????? | |
| dagger 2002-02-28, 12:51 pm |
| ok...so now everyone is on the bandwagon
of certs mean nothing.....
but that is why we still take them
and hang out on these forums to discuss them.....
and now we don't need certs
because we will just believe everyone
when they say..."I know what I'm doing"
And we leave at that and except it..
Now that is amusing.......LOL
Come on seriously, just read the posts over
in this thread. | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-02-28, 12:51 pm |
| Geez. All she was doing was asking for suggestions. Isn't that why we are all here? To help each other? Gosh, what some uptight people!
Paisleyskye: Ignore people like this. I am sure you will do a great job on your book. I will be interested in reading it when it is ready. | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-02-28, 12:53 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by dagger
ok...so now everyone is on the bandwagon
of certs mean nothing.....
but that is why we still take them
and hang out on these forums to discuss them.....
and now we don't need certs
because we will just believe everyone
when they say..."I know what I'm doing"
And we leave at that and except it..
Now that is amusing.......LOL
Come on seriously, just read the posts over
in this thread.
Certs don't "prove" that you know what you are doing, but they don't hurt either. What Linux security certs would you suggest that she have before she should be able to write a book about it?
BTW, Linus STILL is not certified. Does that make him incompetent? | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-28, 1:00 pm |
| Dagger,
I am sure if you read back through this thread you will see that never once did anybody say that certs mean nothing. | |
| dagger 2002-02-28, 1:04 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by The VMS Kid
Geez. All she was doing was asking for suggestions. Isn't that why we are all here? To help each other? Gosh, what some uptight people!
Paisleyskye: Ignore people like this. I am sure you will do a great job on your book. I will be interested in reading it when it is ready.
Actaully my issue was that, all I'm am saying is I thought being certified meant something...
so if anyone was going to write a book
you would think they would be certified in that area. That's all........relax..
Certified means you actaully took an exam and passed. It helps proving you know what your doing.....
Everyone has to defend Paisleyskye
when in fact she is not the issue here.
All I was saying is,
if someone was writing a book
I would of thought they would have
been certified in that area..
.....that's all.....everyone take your prozac now.......... | |
| dagger 2002-02-28, 1:07 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Paisleyskye
Dagger,
I am sure if you read back through this thread you will see that never once did anybody say that certs mean nothing.
It started to sound like it to me. | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-28, 1:31 pm |
| Dagger,
I can tell your Canadian because you are just as stubborn as I am eh!
I never said certifications don't mean anything, because they do. It's just that with adequate experience, you don't need a peice of paper to write a book, unless of course its a certification book. I'm starting to feel like a broken record. I'm getting too old and haggard to keep repeating myself - and if my husband ever saw me repeating myself this many times in one thread he'd have me put in a home for sure.
If you read back through, you will see that I never once said certifications don't mean anything. I think certifications can be very valuable, but at the same time, they aren't really an indication that you know what you are talking about, or that you know what you are doing. They are an indication that you have passed an exam. I know lots of people who have lots of letters beside their name that wouldn't have a clue how to do anything. I also know lots of people with no certs who know really know their stuff. And, in the same respect, I also know people with lots of letters that really know their stuff.
I'm going to try one last analogy here - a peice of paper isn't going to get you a job. What is going to get you a job, is learning, applying your knowledge and studying, passing the exam and ultimately getting through the technical interview. Do you see what I'm saying here. You can't base a persons worth by the number of letter beside their name. If you did, I'd be richer than Bill Gates! | |
| Supertech 2002-02-28, 2:54 pm |
| Perhaps it's more of a credibility issue?
(definitly use the pic in your author bio) | |
| Gareth Leung 2002-02-28, 3:12 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by huntert
Paisleyskye you must have had plastic surgey, your picture was horrible before and now it looks good.
If you want to write a book go into LUG and see what's really going on and stop trying to flame others on.
If you are such a linux expert how come have microsoft on your credentials and no linux tracks like a rhce? LCA? LPI?
You're a linux guru right?
threads like this are very amuzing
Base on your theory, I need the Adobe, Macromedia, UNIX, Linux, Apple, Oracle..... certs to backup my job.  | |
| dagger 2002-02-28, 3:18 pm |
| hey Supertech
with all your certifications
you should be writing a book.... | |
| Supertech 2002-02-28, 3:51 pm |
| I'm still trying to find my niche. I'm getting into SANs now. I'm doing a Qlogic cert next week. and leaning towards telcom. VOIP is gonna be huge. TIA has the CCNT that looks interesting. Tuition reimbursement is a wonderful thing. | |
| dagger 2002-02-28, 4:02 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Supertech
I'm still trying to find my niche. I'm getting into SANs now. I'm doing a Qlogic cert next week. and leaning towards telcom. VOIP is gonna be huge. TIA has the CCNT that looks interesting. Tuition reimbursement is a wonderful thing.
Excellent!!! | |
| huntert 2002-02-28, 5:34 pm |
| Paisleyskye try not to get too excited, i see it takes you 4-5 posts to try to counterattack against my statements.
Well when i look to purchase my ccie books, 9 out of 10 will have that ccie cert and experience.
Paisle you are such a noob and think because you can sit on a Forum all day it makes you a professional.
It's ok you continue with your babbles lil lady, i'll just continue to laugh at you as i have been doing from day 1.
 | |
| Paisleyskye 2002-02-28, 9:48 pm |
| You know Huntert, I used to think you were being so rude because I was female, and then it was pointed out to me that you felt threatened because I had Microsoft certifications. What exactly I was told is that you see me as a traitor or a threat because I would even bother with the MCSE.
Well, my dear boy, I am going to take this moment to quote His Royal Highness, Linus:
"Thank God For Microsoft".
If you don't know what I am referring to Huntert - you might want to do some research on that one. Any true Linux guru will know exactly what that was referring to, and exactly how much you deserved it.
Now, in answer to your post.
The people who have wrote the CCIE books with be CCIE certified because they are writing a CCIE certification book. I had to be A+ certified to write the A+ book I wrote because it was a certification book. You have read this thread haven't you???
This book is not a Linux certification book. It is meant for network administrators in a Linux networking environment. It's not designed to prepare you for any industry certifications.
I do not think I can sit around a forum all day and think it makes me professional. Walk a day in my shoes buddy.
1. I own a consultancy firm - I have 6 employees that work under me right now.
2. I am a full-time writer. Last year I wrote 4 books and 1 CD. This year I already have 5 books on the go right now.
3. Yes, I happen to moderate in the forums of 4 IT certification websites, including this one. But I don't sit in the forums all day. I keep the web pages up while I'm writing, and then every time I want a break I take a look at what is going on in the forums.
And last but not least, I am the mother of four children. Did you know that my schedule normally involves working 12-18 hours a day, usually closer to the latter? Did you know that I did not sleep between 7:00am yesterday morning and 5:30pm this afternoon because I was working?
So, don't you now or ever accuse me of sitting in the forums all day. Until you've walked a day in my shoes you can't even begin to know what you are talking about.
What I find humerous, is that in this thread only you have felt the need to attack me personally, to make yourself feel good. If you have to attack me in order to feel good about yourself buddy - go right ahead.
Furthermore, this thread was started with good intentions as most of the people in this thread have recognized, but for the past several posts, it has been going nowhere and has become only an opportunity for you to throw insults at me. You haven't read the thread, and have shown no intentions of doing so - and therefore, this is the last time I'm wasting my breath repeating myself and defending myself to you. If you are ever in a position of authority over me, I may have to answer to you, but not until then.
I would however encourage you to read this thread, and comprehend everything that has been said - also be sure to take note of how many times you have made me repeat myself throughout this thread. | |
| Boulware5 2002-02-28, 10:04 pm |
| Once again, excellent post Tracy | |
| wildscribe 2002-02-28, 10:38 pm |
| And to believe this thread started out as a request for ideas for a book on Linux security :-)
- Wild | |
| paiste2002 2002-03-01, 12:32 am |
| If you want to write an interesting
book than you are asking the wrong people here. you need to speak to some hardcore
programers who can defeat security not
by overwhelming a system using say a DOS
attack which any bonehead can do. You need to find people who know how to hack a TCP/IP
header stack and create "invisible" packets
Heavy stuff but it is here where real
crackers seperate thensleves from most
of the poser's.
Also look at linux distributions like
Astaro and Trustix. These are very security
orientated and tailor made for protection.
One of my linux PC's at home runs Trustix.
I think your endevour is a good one
but do not write a simple security book
cos It has all been done before.
I am no security expert but am interested
and these are just suggestions. focus on
finding info from developers of hacking tools not the users.Dig deep if you want
make a difference!! think like a scientist not a IT administrator. | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-03-01, 6:06 am |
| there are also some Linux distros that are supposed to be especially security-conscious. Darkfirs is one of those, HP is supposedly working on another. You may want to get hold of some of the developers and see if they can give you any suggestions. I agree with paiste2002, and as for huntert, he/she is an obvious idiot, these types love to argue and insult but never contribute, best to ignore them. | |
| chodan 2002-03-01, 7:49 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by huntert
Paisleyskye try not to get too excited, i see it takes you 4-5 posts to try to counterattack against my statements.
Well when i look to purchase my ccie books, 9 out of 10 will have that ccie cert and experience.
Paisle you are such a noob and think because you can sit on a Forum all day it makes you a professional.
It's ok you continue with your babbles lil lady, i'll just continue to laugh at you as i have been doing from day 1.
Huntert
IF you wouldn`t attack there wouldn`t be a need for counter attack now would there?
I think it is just to hear yourself bleet.
paiste2002
There is no harm in checking the posters here for information, I`m sure this is not Paisleyskye`s only source of insperation but it is a resource and you don`t ignore potentiial resources,
plus I`m sure she pays her agent good money to give her advise on what to write I would follow that advise if I were her.
Paisleyskye
Pease put your certs back on your your profile, don`t let some goobers change how you do business | |
| dagger 2002-03-01, 9:19 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by huntert
Paisleyskye try not to get too excited, i see it takes you 4-5 posts to try to counterattack against my statements.
Well when i look to purchase my ccie books, 9 out of 10 will have that ccie cert and experience.
Paisle you are such a noob and think because you can sit on a Forum all day it makes you a professional.
It's ok you continue with your babbles lil lady, i'll just continue to laugh at you as i have been doing from day 1.
I believe that is her defense mechanism kicking in........lol | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-03-01, 9:34 am |
| Odd . . . it looks like she has less reason to defend herself than anyone else here. How many books have YOU guys written? | |
| paiste2002 2002-03-01, 10:20 am |
| Currently Crackers from the
former Soviet Union are hands down the
best around. Russia is short on money
for good equipment so they do not have
the best stuff. However they do use what
they have to good effect. There developers
are second to none. While America developed
a space pen for it's NASA crew at a cost of
over a million dollars some years ago
the Russians found that ordinary pencil's
worked as well in space as on earth.
My point is to get a fresh perspective on this book look to USSR hacker sites and forums. Many understand english.
Do this book with input from a diffrent mindset. A security book with a more
"eastern" input is original and I am sure would generate interest. South America
is currently the number one spawnwer of viruses. Formerly,Hungary and Yougaslavia
were the premier virus authors but Spain
and Argentina/Brazil are where it is all happening today. This is also a source
of "naughty" input. If I was to write a
book on security I would take my research
to the people most likely to overcome it.
Keep your friend close but you "enemies"
closer.
Regards
paiste2002 | |
| carlitos 2002-03-01, 11:27 pm |
| This forum should be to help each other, not to try to put other people down
if she writes a book and for any reason you dont agree with it, just dont buy it, there is not need for personal attacks
besides we all know that there are alot peeple that get their certs and their source of preparation is braindumps
now,who would do a better job at writing a book, a experienced person or a paper cert.?
As far as i know, most sys admins that have 4 years or more working with unix dont even bother at getting certifications, which is why you wont really find dumps for unix exams.
I hope tracey wont pay atention to posters that just come here to criticize, she spends quality time helping people that ask for help(myself included).
just my personal opinion. | |
| The VMS Kid 2002-03-02, 12:56 pm |
| I agree, why so much negativity? Tarcey has done a lot for this site and always tries to help people. Here she was asking for advice and peopkle try to trash her. Tjis is NOT the kind of attitude that helps the Unix community! | |
| trons4u 2002-03-04, 10:01 am |
| Everybody knows Tom Clancy, right.
Do you really think he has done everything that he has written about. It's all about research and networking to get the info that you need. | |
| RabidLizard 2002-03-04, 11:27 am |
| The rule of thumb I live by - To truly know something is to be able to teach it!
ie. you can teach your child 2+2=4 and have them mimic it back to you, but do they understand? I myself have recently lost my job in the Auto Industry (big deal) and am interested in the IT field. I studied these forums and practice tests and passed both A+ exams relatively quickly and easily. Because I mimiced what I learned here. Now can I teach someone now that I am certified - not really (only stuff I truly know). My certification only gives me bragging rights and as the saying goes - nothing beats hands on experience. Not bashing anyone, all I'm saying is to each their own.
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