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| Freed177 2002-11-18, 11:44 am |
| I can not beleive it. I have tryed 5 times to load this os called linux red hat 7.3 and it just will not go. now that I have deleted all the partitions and try to reboot into windows all I get is a Grub command line that takes no command. I loaded Linux on a seprated hard drive shouldn,t Grub be gone since I have deleted all partitions and refomated the drive. How do I get rid of this Grub loaded command how do I find it on my system and deleted it. Really need some input here never. all my hardware is Compatable. The only thing I can think of is Linux does not load from a CD-RW.
Thank God I made a windows 2000 boot disk or I would be out of luck..
Help?????? | |
| mikop 2002-11-18, 12:08 pm |
| fdisk /mbr | |
| Freed177 2002-11-18, 2:47 pm |
| If I fdisk /mbr will this stop me from booting into windows 2000 | |
| ruscorp 2002-11-18, 3:18 pm |
| It's not that diffcult. I boot between 2000 pro/XP pro/RedHat 7.2 with no problem.
I have two 40GB HDD's
HD0 has Windows 2000 and XP and is in 2 partations (C:=2000, D:=XP)
HD1 is deciated to RedHat. 32GB for Ext2 and the rest for swap. | |
| rlrouns 2002-11-18, 8:23 pm |
| if you can get to a command line, with the linux CD rom or a linux boot disk, run the command fdisk.
Here is what you do,
#fdisk /dev/hda
when you get to the fdisk command line type
m and press enter. It will show you all the fdisk commands. Next type p and press enter, that will print the partition table. After that you will see your windows and linux partitions. something like hda1 hda2 hda3, etc. When you locate the windows partition, you should see an asterisk next to one of the partitions, that shows you what partition is your boot partition. If the partition with the asterisk is not your windows partition, then type t and press enter. this is to toggle the bootable flag, or in english, change which partition you boot from. after entering t, it will ask you to enter the partition number, ie 1, 2, 3 for hda1, hda2, hda3, etc. Enter the number of your windows partition, and press enter. it should change the bootable flag to the other partition. type p again and enter to see if you have actually changed the location of the asterisk, then if it is changed, type w and press enter to write the new table to the disk, and exit. This could work if you have not removed or formatted your windows partition.
Rob
If this is way off or confusing let me know and I will try to help more, also if this answer is all jacked up, let me know too you expert guys! | |
| Freed177 2002-11-18, 10:20 pm |
| This sounds like a real answer let you know how it works. finaly got linux up and running the installation disks where corrupted. Got some new ones and presto linux up and running.
Thank you | |
| Boulware5 2002-11-18, 11:23 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by rlrouns
if you can get to a command line, with the linux CD rom or a linux boot disk, run the command fdisk.
Here is what you do,
#fdisk /dev/hda
when you get to the fdisk command line type
m and press enter. It will show you all the fdisk commands. Next type p and press enter, that will print the partition table. After that you will see your windows and linux partitions. something like hda1 hda2 hda3, etc. When you locate the windows partition, you should see an asterisk next to one of the partitions, that shows you what partition is your boot partition. If the partition with the asterisk is not your windows partition, then type t and press enter. this is to toggle the bootable flag, or in english, change which partition you boot from. after entering t, it will ask you to enter the partition number, ie 1, 2, 3 for hda1, hda2, hda3, etc. Enter the number of your windows partition, and press enter. it should change the bootable flag to the other partition. type p again and enter to see if you have actually changed the location of the asterisk, then if it is changed, type w and press enter to write the new table to the disk, and exit. This could work if you have not removed or formatted your windows partition.
Rob
If this is way off or confusing let me know and I will try to help more, also if this answer is all jacked up, let me know too you expert guys!
't' in fdisk is to change the partition type (which they call 'system id') to something like ext2, swap, etc. By typing 'a' and then the partition number, that will mark the corresponding partition as the bootable one. You almost had it right; you just got 't' mixed with 'a'. | |
| Boulware5 2002-11-18, 11:37 pm |
| And also.....It's recommended when you dual boot with windows to make the Linux root partition the active partition, not the windows partition. If not you may jump right into windows or get an OS not found error. Then the Linux boot-loader should recognize the windows partition and give you a choice. Heh, I say should because I haven't done this myself; I stopped dual-booting years ago when just about everytime I tried I'd mess up my partition table or did something wrong that messes everything up.  | |
| onoski 2002-11-19, 5:06 am |
| Good point Boulware5, as it is indeed good practice to have linux on a separate hard disk as it is often not as easy to dual boot btw operating systems. Been there, sum up not worth the hassle to dual boot linux and another os. | |
| rlrouns 2002-11-19, 7:42 am |
| haha thanks! I was doing that out of my head! you are absolutely right! The think I love about linux is when you list all the available partition types, you can see that Linux can read darn near anything! Thanks again for correcting me!
Rob | |
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| Or you can not install a boot loader at all and boot Linux from a floppy. Floppy in - Linux boots. Floppy out - Windows boots. | |
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| Man, I would love it if you could write up a little story about your experience in linux hell so that I can post it on my website at www.linuxhell.com. It will help you vent, and others will be able to learn from it too! Let me know if you are interested | |
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| Great site! I'm sure it'll be well traveled. | |
| freak 2002-11-20, 10:01 am |
| Thanks! As a matter of fact, I just received the first contribution from a reader of the site. I uploaded it, and I also sent him a free study guide from www.MCSEFreakPress.com to thank him. I will probably send free study guides to the first 10 contributions as an incentive... | |
| Zinji 2002-11-20, 10:09 am |
| Hehe, that was me. And thanks for the guide!  | |
| freak 2002-11-20, 10:12 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Zinji
Hehe, that was me. And thanks for the guide!
You're very welcome. It was my pleasure to send it to you. | |
| SwiftDW 2002-11-21, 10:44 pm |
| I've tried dual booting, it's tricky at setup, but once you get it going it's ok. I don't do that anymore, just use VMWare from the XP Pro, and boom, Linux with no problem! | |
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| just a quick note: if you use VMWARE, make sure that the box is one powerful machine. You are essentially running two shells at the same time... | |
| Freed177 2002-11-22, 4:41 pm |
| Ah vmware used it to study for exchange.
good stuff. had two exchange servers running on my 433 Gateway and it did fine a little slow but good enof to study with.
Back to linux. still working out some wrinkles on the install. not all the commands work in the command shell.Like addusers command. fdisk ect.... I still get alot of freeze ups which seems to happen when I am configring network options. Trying to connect to the internet with my earthlink account not working.. So I have some work to do.. Any clues.. | |
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| most of the freeze ups you're experiencing are hard to troubleshoot because you are using VMWARE. In other words, are your issues linked to a hardware thing, or a software thing?
As for the commands missing, those are very basic commands that should have been installed by any install mode. do you find those commands if you run a locate [command name] command? | |
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| he does not have path to /usr/sbin/ | |
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| it sure sounds like it, doesn't it? | |
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| ya
and I should've add that
when you su to play around to learn
use
su -
instead, this will give you teh root environment | |
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| that's a great tip, once that when I discovered it I wondered why nobody told me about it first  | |
| Freed177 2002-11-22, 9:47 pm |
| I am not running vmware right now I have removed vm from my computer. What is up is I have two hard drives. One windows 2000 Pro the other linux 7.3 I boot to win 2000 with a boot disk. Linux is primary boot. I have installed linux about 5 times and it has been nothing but a headache. as I have said freeze ups. RPM does not work so I can not install any programs. As commands I guess I have to reinstall. I will give it a try. Can not get internet connection up. so I have to keep going back and forth win to lin back to win.
To be honist I do not see what all the hype is about linux. | |
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| Freed177 2002-11-22, 10:36 pm |
| sure would love to take out my Frustrations.
I am truly at ends with this OS Just want to get the cert and move on to a real OS... | |
| freak 2002-11-22, 10:42 pm |
| you can email me your stuff to freak@linuxhell.com and don't forget to tell me what study guide you want.
Although I am clearly more of a MS guy, I still see a lot in Linux that I like, especially in terms of troubleshooting IP, overall networking, and OS flexibility. On the other hand, my frustrations are multiple and varied, hence the creation of www.LinuxHell.com | |
| drdirt 2002-11-30, 2:26 am |
| Is Redhat 7.3 using greb (or whatever its called) for loading?
I have had problems with that. Last time I loaded Redhat was 5.2 and it defaulted to Lilo.
Lilo has quirks, but I almost feel any problem since playing with it "nine ways." I have not had trouble dual booting since (except with that other loader...).
After I got 5 different distros booting via LILO on the same box, LILO and I peacefully coexist. The only point of doing it was to understand boot process and LILO, but it pays off. A cousin had done this in a Sair class and suggested I try. | |
| drdirt 2002-11-30, 2:27 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
I see that you are studying for Linux+. I will send you a free Linux+ for freaks! study guide if you want to write up a couple of paragraphs on your experiences to be published on www.LinuxHell.com... let me know if you are interested
Are you interested in having a piece on IP Masquerading/NAT? I could use some studyguidance. | |
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| The loader is grub, not greb. As for IP masquerading, anybody who wants to write a quick guide on that is welcome! I will gladly post it on my site. | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-11-30, 8:36 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by freak
The loader is grub, not greb. As for IP masquerading, anybody who wants to write a quick guide on that is welcome! I will gladly post it on my site.
I repeat, gimme time dammit! | |
| freak 2002-11-30, 10:01 am |
| Glad to see you volunteer I very much appreciate it! | |
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| Red Hat can use either GRUB or LILO as the boot loader. I think GRUB is the default. | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-12-02, 7:19 am |
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Originally posted by Zinji
Red Hat can use either GRUB or LILO as the boot loader. I think GRUB is the default.
GRUB is the default starting with Linux 7.x I believe. Before then the default boot loader was LILO. | |
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| quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Linux Guy
GRUB is the default starting with Linux 7.x I believe. Before then the default boot loader was LILO.
My recollection is that GRUB became the default specifically with 7.2. Before that, it was LILO.
For whatever that was worth. | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-12-02, 8:08 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Baz
My recollection is that GRUB became the default specifically with 7.2. Before that, it was LILO.
For whatever that was worth.
Yeah, I think you are correct. | |
| Freed177 2002-12-08, 10:05 am |
| this is getting as bit Ridiculous, I have loaded Red hat 7.3 atleast 5 times tryed all possible ways and it still freezes up Please does anybody have a clue. Be cause I have had about all I can take from this OS. I just want to study for the linux + test. But every time I install this OS it ether crashed or freezes up. | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-12-10, 6:26 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Freed177
this is getting as bit Ridiculous, I have loaded Red hat 7.3 atleast 5 times tryed all possible ways and it still freezes up Please does anybody have a clue. Be cause I have had about all I can take from this OS. I just want to study for the linux + test. But every time I install this OS it ether crashed or freezes up.
This sounds like a hardware problem. Have you tried loading an older version of the OS or using another distro? |
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