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Which Certification?
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| Margus 2002-10-25, 10:26 pm |
| Im new to Linux so its a little confusing to see so many different certifications-
Linux+
LPIC
RHCE
SAIR Linux and GNU Certification 3x0-***
Unix/SunSolaris
(UN-hp) etc..
So where should I begin with? | |
| mikop 2002-10-25, 11:10 pm |
| prolly learn linux through a good book as I said before and not worry about which cert.
when you are done with the book, you are well positioned for any of the entry level cert with perhaps some additional/topic specific studying.
but for the blanket answer, start wtih linux+ since you have stated that you are completely new to linux.
decision maker should be what platform you are currently working on... or plan to work on. but that's not a factor here... this is one of those, it seem confusing, but once you get down to it and start the process with ANY distro/platform, it will all be apparent so get your feet wet before you want to decide on a path. | |
| Margus 2002-10-25, 11:14 pm |
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Originally posted by mikop
prolly learn linux through a good book as I said before and not worry about which cert.
Well unfortunately Im one of those people that needs a motiv to study and for me just being interested in something isnt always enough BUT for certification You really have to study and remember all the important basics.
Im not really crazy about getting many-many certs but Certification is what puts me to studying really something... | |
| Variable 2002-10-26, 5:43 am |
| I think that you have to love linux in order to pursue any cert in its direction. Install it, play with it and see what its all about... | |
| namrak 2002-10-26, 11:36 am |
| I would agree with mikop to start with Linux+ which really seems to target the beginning user with about a year's experience with the OS (preferrably Red Hat 7.1 at least). The suggestion of obtaining a good book such as Running Linux by M.Welsh (O'Reilly). Forget about RHCE for now.
As for motivation, I can understand using a certification for that. But maybe you have questions such as...
- Can I install a game on my Linux OS such as Quake III and see how it runs
- for that matter, can I get a network game of Quake III going w/ my other Windows boxes
- further yet, what do I need to do get Windows and Linux to share files with each other
If you have these sort of questions and you attempt to answer them, you will be well on your way to learning Linux as well as giving yourself some immediate goals. Not to mention a little game playing time when you take your little breaks.  Provided that you like to game a little. Hope this helps. | |
| Margus 2002-10-26, 8:22 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by namrak
But maybe you have questions such as...
- further yet, what do I need to do get Windows and Linux to share files with each other
Hope this helps.
Well, so its possible in Linux to see files stored on NTFS partition?
btw, does Linux have built-in .pdf reader?
or You have to get acrobat for Linux? | |
| ruscorp 2002-10-26, 9:06 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Margus
Well, so its possible in Linux to see files stored on NTFS partition?
btw, does Linux have built-in .pdf reader?
or You have to get acrobat for Linux?
I know RedHat can access NTFS. I have mounted an NTFS volume with my very limited Linux knowledge. | |
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| http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/...nagers-pdf.html
searched for *7.3 pdf viewer* at redhat.com
this would also interest you
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/...plications.html
but again, I can't stress the importance of just jumping in knee deep and play with it and try to accomplish waht you normally do everyday and figure out how it is done in linux...even as a desktop OS. load it, check the apps available and all that... try to install apps, listen to mp3, burn cd and all that...
as you can see, the links are from the manual for the 7.3, which I have pasted the link in an earlier post, I would really suggest that you go over the available documentation as it will answer a lot of questions that you may have later on.
I am trying to not get into the *RTFM* mode, but I think it is fair to say that with linux, there is a lot of learning through the process of discovery. | |
| namrak 2002-10-27, 11:06 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Margus
Well, so its possible in Linux to see files stored on NTFS partition?
In a word. Samba. This will allow Windows clients to interact with Linux servers through the use of server message blocks. I've included a link that might help.
http://www.linux-mag.com/1999-05/samba_01.html
There are tons of material available through online documentation and retail books. I'm trying to learn as I go as well, but the only way to do this is to plow through. | |
| drdirt 2002-11-01, 11:29 pm |
| I see the direction of the advice for the first time Linux installer.
How about those users that have been tinkering for a while?
I got a hold of a Sair 101 and 102 manual from a friend (Sair, I am just evaluating it to assess whether I will take your course!).
It isn't really challenging. Some areas I had no knowledge of, most were pretty fundamental.
Which certs carry credibility? Which one, ideally, would prepare me for Platform Independence? (you know, so I can say I work on anytin' ya got).
[Im still celebratin' - my keyboard may smell a little hoppy tomorrow...] | |
| Margus 2002-11-02, 3:00 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by namrak
In a word. Samba. This will allow Windows clients to interact with Linux servers through the use of server message blocks. I've included a link that might help.
http://www.linux-mag.com/1999-05/samba_01.html
Unfortunately it seems like its a broken (old) link.
But is there any other resources which would explain how to MOUNT - make ntfs partition accessible to Linux redhat 7.3 ...
I tried to do it on my own but didnt work out... | |
| Margus 2002-11-02, 3:09 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Margus
But is there any other resources which would explain how to MOUNT - make ntfs partition accessible to Linux redhat 7.3 ...
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/...-a-windows.html
is the link for info accessing Windows partition in Linux. | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-11-02, 8:17 am |
| OK, any tome you need to access a partition, there are several ways to do it (keep in mind partitions can be slices on one disk, can be slices on more than one disk, or if using something like Logical Volume Manager can make entire disk packs look like one partition). Some distros like SuSE have "mount points" like /floppy or /cdrom. Most of the time, and certainly with Hed Rat, there is a directory called /mnt inder whichyou maount all foreign devices, partitions and what not. If you plan to access any partition all that much, there are two possible avelnues for you:
1) create a directory for that particular partition under your / or /mnt directory (exactly where doesn;t matter as long as you can write and read to it and the directory is empty). Normally I guess you would mount it by hand whenever needed like so:
# mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/hdb3 /mnt/windoze
Do this as root. /mnt/windoze you must have already created. The '-t' flag is the type of partition you want to mount. Look in your an pages for details, but suffice to say you can see directories with file systems from Xenix (!) to OS/2 to QNX, very few of which you will need. msdos is for DOS filsystsmes, vfat for most Windows, and ntfs is for, NTFS systems. For a cdrom you would use 'iso9660' and for floppy you usually use 'minix' or 'msdos'. The '-o' option stands for 'options' and we have chose read-only above as writing to NTFS filesystems can sometimes cause problems.
2) Do the same as above but then crack open vi and add the floowing line to /etc/fstab:
/dev/hdb3 /mnt/windoze ntfs noauto,owner,users 0 0
Then save the file. This will ensure that upon each bootup the partition will be actively available and you will not have to go through the time of keying in all of these commands each time.
If this doesn't work, holler and we'll try to aid you. | |
| Margus 2002-11-02, 8:35 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Linux Guy
If this doesn't work, holler and we'll try to aid you.
Well, I pretty much did as suggested --
I made a folders in /mnt folder (called windows, windows2 etc.)
then I tried command
mount -t vfat hda1 /mnt/windows
and it worked (this is 1st HDDs primary Win98 partition)
but when I tried
mount -t ntfs hda5 /mnt/windows2
it sayd somethin like "ntfs not recognized filesystem" or "wrong filesystem type" (when I tried to put hpfs instead of ntfs)...
Another thing,
Have anyone ever dealt with installing Oracle on Linux (with those .cpio.gz extensions) | |
| Margus 2002-11-02, 8:54 am |
| Well actually when I tried commands
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windows5
I got error message: "Mount point /mnt/windows doesnt exist"
Though this directories are present in /mnt folder | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-11-02, 3:00 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Margus
Well, I pretty much did as suggested --
I made a folders in /mnt folder (called windows, windows2 etc.)
then I tried command
mount -t vfat hda1 /mnt/windows
and it worked (this is 1st HDDs primary Win98 partition)
but when I tried
mount -t ntfs hda5 /mnt/windows2
it sayd somethin like "ntfs not recognized filesystem" or "wrong filesystem type" (when I tried to put hpfs instead of ntfs)...
Another thing,
Have anyone ever dealt with installing Oracle on Linux (with those .cpio.gz extensions)
If it says ntfs is not supported by your kernel recompile it with ntfs support (it's under "filesystems") and this is easier than it sounds.
Yes, I work with Linux/Oracle every day. What's the problem? | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-11-02, 3:02 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Margus
Well actually when I tried commands
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windows5
I got error message: "Mount point /mnt/windows doesnt exist"
Though this directories are present in /mnt folder
Did you specify "-o ro" on the command line? | |
| Margus 2002-11-02, 3:12 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Linux Guy
Did you specify "-o ro" on the command line?
NO, does this will make a positive difference?
Ill try it out,
Thank You for helping! | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-11-02, 5:50 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Margus
NO, does this will make a positive difference?
Ill try it out,
Thank You for helping!
You should not be able to writeto NTFS filesystems on Linux as this can cause problems, so it may make a difference; if it doesn't let me know and we will work it out. |
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