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ruscorp

2002-09-29, 5:06 pm

I am currently trying to broaden my horizons by learning Linux. I have had a little experience with RedHat, but have recently tried SuSE LiveEval 8.0 and thought it was pretty "cool" and much smaller compared to RedHat. Who wants to sit here and download 3 isos? What do you guys think?

Before I end up wiping out my entire system, what exactly does the SuSE LiveEval do? A mock install or something?

I'll be triple booting between Linux, Windows 2000 and XP. I have more than enough space. I have two 40 gig WD's, so I figure for practice I'll set aside 10 gigs for Linux. Do you think I'll come across any problems?

Come on Mr. Linux Guy, I know you're dying to answer this one.
Boulware5

2002-09-29, 5:51 pm

Linux is linux; you can't go wrong with any distro. I personally prefer slackware, but that's me. What you can do is try some out and see what you like the best.

http://www.slackware.com/~msimons/slackware/grfx/shared/swl-ftrn_234x60.png
Mr. Linux Guy

2002-09-30, 5:27 am

I must agree. Slackware will teach you the most but will also give you the most headaches at least in the beginning. Like I have said before, I rarely install X on my servers, thinking it a waste of space and memory, and without the GUI, one Linux looks and behaves more or less like any other one. Apart from cosmetics, they are mostly the same. Better than taking advice from guys like us, however, a better strategy would be to get several distros, and try each one out and decide for yourself. They're free/cheap! Let us know if you run into any probs.
Bingram

2002-09-30, 11:20 am

If you are just looking to get more experience with Linux, and plan to tinker with services, settings and such, I'd reccomend you move from the dual boot setup and dedicate a seperate (possibly an older system) for Linux.

While dual booting allows you to consolidate resources, you run the risk of hosing your data. After all if you are tinkering with Linux, it is more likely you will install/re-install more than three times. Each time an opportunity for things to go foul. KVM boxes are pretty cheap BTW.

As for distribution, I reccomend Mandrake or Caldera for newbies. Caldera's webmin makes an easy transition from Windows, IMO.
Mr. Linux Guy

2002-09-30, 11:31 am

I used Caldera a little while not long ago. They seem to have been marginalised since buying SCO, but they have a good product.
Widgewaam

2002-10-03, 5:48 pm

I'm new to *nix, and I tried to install FreeBSD. It didn't work out well, so I found Caldera OpenLinux in an old book I bought. I can install it, and even manage to get to a command prompt, but I can't get KDE to run. I have a huge hunch that it's not recognizing my video card. Anybody have any suggestions how to fix it, other than swapping video cards?
Boulware5

2002-10-03, 7:33 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Widgewaam
I'm new to *nix, and I tried to install FreeBSD. It didn't work out well, so I found Caldera OpenLinux in an old book I bought. I can install it, and even manage to get to a command prompt, but I can't get KDE to run. I have a huge hunch that it's not recognizing my video card. Anybody have any suggestions how to fix it, other than swapping video cards?


Yeah anyone new to *Nix probably shouldn't start with FreeBSD. That's a more advanced Unix OS.
ruscorp

2002-10-03, 7:39 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Widgewaam
I'm new to *nix, and I tried to install FreeBSD. It didn't work out well, so I found Caldera OpenLinux in an old book I bought. I can install it, and even manage to get to a command prompt, but I can't get KDE to run. I have a huge hunch that it's not recognizing my video card. Anybody have any suggestions how to fix it, other than swapping video cards?


I made a big mistake when toying with FreeBSD. I installed it on my IBM Thinkpad and it !@#$ed the hdd. It turns out FreeBSD is not suppose to be installed on Thinkpads and IBM will not support you in this matter, you have to "foot" the bill for a new hdd. The think wouldn't even boot up!
Dann

2002-10-03, 9:00 pm

I have installed Red Hat Linux version 7.1 with Oracle8i running.

I always go with market. coz, the market are using Oracle8i on Solaris, HP UX and Red Hat.

There's are the main unix and linux systems using Oracle 8i in my country.
Mr. Linux Guy

2002-10-05, 7:11 am

I think LiveEval allows you to try out SuSE while still using your WIndows OS by installing it "on top" of Windows, same as DragonLinux or Phat Linux. Normally I do not recommend this, as the real power of Linux is circumvented and the result is basically a toy that you can play with but that runs slow and is not suitable for much esle besides toying with.

I had some video problems with Caldera as well . . . be sure to check their compatibility list to make sure that your video card is supported. If not, you may have to use the VGA16 server or something of that sort . . . not the best solution if you want a nice pretty desktop, but which will nontheless allow you GUI functionality with most video cards. Or, you could just forego the X installation and use your machine via command line only . . . this seems old-fashioned but will teach you a lot about Linux.
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