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| imran1430 2001-05-07, 10:53 pm |
| Hey Randy, you should be the moderator of this forum.
Have you talked to Dmitri about it?
Would you be willing to become the moderator? | |
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| I wouldn't mind it, but so far I don't think that there are enough regular posters to warrant a separate mod here. That may change when the Linux+ comes out. For all practical purposes, it looks like me and ccieToBe are already the mods . . . looks like we're the only real regualars here. Let's hope it perks up a bit more soon. | |
| imran1430 2001-05-08, 10:05 am |
| Ya, I agree. This place should be getting more traffic in when Linux+ comes out. Then you can be the moderator of the L+ forum and ccietobe can be the moderator of the unix forum  | |
| Randy 2001-05-08, 10:14 am |
| Well, I think this one forum doubles for both UNIX and Linux. I know ccieToBe has been raving about the new BSD release of UNIX, it's kind of like Slack only more stable and sleeker. I wonder when CompTIA is finally going to release the Linux+, I'd be interested in trying it out. | |
| imran1430 2001-05-08, 10:56 am |
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Originally posted by Randy
Well, I think this one forum doubles for both UNIX and Linux. I know ccieToBe has been raving about the new BSD release of UNIX, it's kind of like Slack only more stable and sleeker. I wonder when CompTIA is finally going to release the Linux+, I'd be interested in trying it out.
Yea, it should be a good cert.
I just signed up with the Linux class/mailing list. | |
| Randy 2001-05-08, 11:00 am |
| Great, hope to see you there. Paisleyskye said that she signed up last night as well. The mailing list and IRC sessions are good for ironing out trouble spots, but the basic reading material that is uploaded each week I found to be of immense help when I was getting started. You'll be a pro in no time! | |
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| Randy 2001-05-08, 11:34 am |
| Well, it's quite different from M$, so you should see a welcome change there . . . hmm, looks like we have ourselves another regular in the Linux forum! | |
| imran1430 2001-05-08, 11:36 am |
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we gotta get more people up in this house  hehe | |
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| imran1430 2001-05-08, 12:36 pm |
| Thanks for the link
Looking into it | |
| ccieToBe 2001-05-08, 5:55 pm |
| Welcome imram1430, it's nice to have another regular.
I don't think this forum needs a moderator since there haven't been any problems with inappropriate posts. My fear is that this might change when Linux+ comes out and some individuals inevitably seek out braindumps. I suspect the moderators have control over all the forums (correct me if I'm wrong on this) so in effect Randy's already the moderator.
If this forum ever needs a moderator Randy would be a good one. He seems very knowledgeable and makes a lot of informative posts. I'm willing to moderate, but I think Randy would be a better choice since his Linux/Unix knowledge most likely surpasses mine. | |
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| Actually, moderators only have control over the forums that we moderate, so for me that is only the A+. Dimitri began asking for an A+ moderator when that forum became so active that he had toruble keeping up with all of the posts and maintaining the site as well. And you don't need to be that knowledgeable to be a moderator . . . hardware is still one of my weaker areas as most of my professional experience has been in Operating Systems and software development, but hopefully that will change in the future with my Cisco efforts. The main thing that I do is read the posts, kill any posts with braindumps, or that ask for keys to open software illegally and to kill abusive posts. Also, if noone gets an answer to a question that they post, I'll try to research it and if I can't find anything, I'll hazard a guess so the person doesn't feel they are being passed over . . . at any rate, this brings the thread back to the top and even when I am wrong (which is all too frequent), it usually inspires someone (usually SomeGuy) to correct me, which is fine since that wway the dude gets his question answered and I learn as well. If Dmitri thinks this forum needs a mod at some time in the future, I'd be happy to accept, but I think ccieToBe would do as well a job as I could. All you need is the time to check out the posts each day. | |
| ccieToBe 2001-05-08, 10:11 pm |
| Thanks for the vote of confidence and clearing up my misconception. You have a point about the moderator not needing to have that much knowledge in the forum's topics. | |
| carlitos 2001-05-09, 12:57 am |
| i always read the posts here in this section
i want to get to know linux, but i have zero experience with either linux or unix
so i am no sure where to start.
i usually buy the magazine called
maximum linux, every issue comes with a cd that contains a different linux version and also applications.
if you guys could tell me which one i could start with and some beginner's book so i can learn about the OS
i have 2 PCs that i am not using that i could use for this purposes
thanks guys  | |
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| Sign up for the Linux course at:
http://basiclinux.hypermart.net/
it just strted Monday and you should stil be able to get in. It's free and designed to take Linux newbies coming from a Windows/Mac background and to get them to the stage where they can be considered power users.
The best introductory book I would say is "Running Linux" from O'Reilly. there are a number of other good books, but I would suggest that one along with the distro manual of your choice.
For a total beginner, I would suggest Mandrake, Corel, or Caldera. Corel is a lot like Windows and a lot of people don't like it . . . it seems to be used mainly for guys/gals new to Linux. After getting comfortable, most people switch. Mandrake is also great. Red Hat is not bad, but overrated. Stay away from Slackware or Debian until you feel comfortable around Linux.
Having a separate PC to put Linux on is great as it will save you from those nasty partitioning problems and the hassle of trying to get Windows to get along well with Linux.
If this is not enough to get you started, please ask and I will give you some more detailed advice. | |
| ccieToBe 2001-05-09, 10:00 am |
| Randy's right about those distros being the easiest to use. Corel's probably the easiest among them, but it's also the least functional. If you start off with Corel, switch to another distro as soon as you have a feel for how Linux works. Mandrake (my favorite Linux) and Caldera are both very functional and fairly easy to use.
I have a couple books on Linux, but I haven't actually used them enough to tell you whether they're good or not. I find the various Linux websites and man pages to be much more useful. Linuxnewbie.org has lot of good how-tos that are sometimes dated, but generally very good overall. Once you get Linux installed, you can find more information about a given command or program by typing "man x" where x is the name of what you want information on. | |
| Randy 2001-05-09, 10:17 am |
| Yes, that's true . . . the main probs that most people run into are
1) Installation (i.e., not reading the instructions)
2) Setting up the X Server
3) Connecting to the net
A book will help you greatly there. After that, 90% of what you will nedd will be found on the Internet . . . usenet, websites, etc. A great deal of Linux documentation should also be installed on your computer when you do your install. Tip: READ IT!
There are also a good many sites out there for newbies and they make excellent resources, like cciToBe said. The discussions can be especially useful. Also try to find a LUG in your area so that you have some meat resources if things go wrong . . . they may be able to give you some help if you deal with a local ISP. | |
| dentonb2000 2001-05-14, 8:07 am |
| I read this board a lot, just that either Randy or ccietobe answer the questions before I have to time to.
Hopefully be getting my FreebSD machine up this weekend. Want to work with integrating it into a windows 2000 domain.
Denton | |
| ccieToBe 2001-05-14, 10:00 am |
| FreeBSD and Samba are a great combination. FreeBSD 4.3 is very nice, so get a hold of that version if you can. With Samba, you basically have to use 2.2 to do much with Win2k. I'm working on something simular at work. So far everything's going smoothly. There are a few more parameters to learn with Samba 2.2. Let me know if you have any questions. | |
| dentonb2000 2001-05-14, 10:15 am |
| Once I get a new drive and video card, I will be set and running. The main reason for me to run FreeBSD this time over Linux is due to the fact that I only have a p166 with 32 megs and I just want something basic. If I had choosen Linux, I would have picked Mnadrake 8, but the hardware is just not up to the task.
The goal that I have in mind it to use the FreeBSD box behind Windows 2000 server with ISA server ( I know, don't tell me, I am sick ).
I would like to link the FreeBSD logon with the Windows domain but I am not sure whether FreebSD uses the Kerberos logon method. If not, I can just use the Services for Unix NIS service...(I hope anyways). | |
| ccieToBe 2001-05-14, 10:50 am |
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Originally posted by dentonb2000
Once I get a new drive and video card, I will be set and running. The main reason for me to run FreeBSD this time over Linux is due to the fact that I only have a p166 with 32 megs and I just want something basic. If I had choosen Linux, I would have picked Mnadrake 8, but the hardware is just not up to the task.
Yeah, to run Mandrake along with most types of GUIs you really need at least 64MB. RAM's ridiculously cheap though (assuming your motherboard can take DIMMs), so you may want to load up. Without a GUI, 32MB shouldn't be a problem.
The goal that I have in mind it to use the FreeBSD box behind Windows 2000 server with ISA server ( I know, don't tell me, I am sick ).
I'm going to bite my tung on this one. Just like I do when I hear about someone running a webserver on a Mac (or for that matter, most things involving MacOS  ).
I would like to link the FreeBSD logon with the Windows domain but I am not sure whether FreebSD uses the Kerberos logon method. If not, I can just use the Services for Unix NIS service...(I hope anyways).
FreeBSD can perform Kerberos logins, but I recall hearing something about M$ butchering the protocol that Win2k uses. If I remember correctly the effect is that Unix can log into Win2k Kerberos servers, but Win2k can't log into Unix Kerberos servers. Services for Unix should work, but I've never used it.
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| dentonb2000 2001-05-14, 11:11 am |
| I know it sounds obsurd, but it is strictly for experimentation. Never know unless I try it.
I sometimes enjoy bashing M$ as much as the next, but I am throroughly impressed with Windows 2000. Maybe this is because I like the eye candy or not as technically savy as the next. I know that I have worked in a NT/Unix heterogenous network and it was a nightmare. So, for me to be able to say the same about 2000/Unix, I have to test and try it.
To each his own.
Denton |
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