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kiwini

2001-05-07, 4:46 am

Read many articles on Major Corporations going for Linux.

Linux has really got my attention now.

Yo, Randy, aren't you a RHCE?

Talk to me about your experiences of getting that cert.
Randy

2001-05-07, 5:47 am

Before getting the RHCE, I suggest starting out with the LPIC-1. The RHCE is a HARD exam . . . there are two tracks: Standard and Rapid, one is for people who have not a lot of experience in Linux, the other is usually for people whohave been with it a while. I took the standard track. That consisted of three courses: the RH033, which is designed for beginners, and covers all skills to become a power user, including installation and command line tools and so on; the RH133 is designed for those wanting to preparing for sysadmin psoitions. You'll learn all the skills required to manage a Linux workstation and attach to a net, including configuration of client-side network services. You MUST have a good working knowledge of networking fundamentals and internetworking with TCP/IP; and lastly the RH253, which is mainly geared at those who want to build skills at configuring and administering a Red Hat Linux server running key enterprise network services and security. RH253 is the heart of the course really, as Red Hat is aimed at the server market excelusively, the previous two courses just get you up to speed so that you can take the server course. The exam itself can be taken alone as the RH302 RHCE Exam Only or as the final day of the RH300 RHCE course (I recommend the latter). The RH300 RHCE course consists of four days of training on Red Hat Linux-specific probs. There are eight units and eight hands-on lab workshops, about two each day, requiring completion of realistic tasks and workshops. At the end of
each lab there is a skills test which usually requirtes experience. Troubleshooting almost cost me the exam since I had so little experience troubleshooting Linux . . . the exam is really intended for people who already know what they are doing. The RHCE certificate requires passing the Certification Lab Exam. The Lab Exam goes like this:

1) A multiple choice test (1 hour) [Easy]
2) a server install and network services configuration lab (2 1/2 hours) [harder, but not that bad]
3) A diagnostics and troubleshooting lab (2 1/2 hours). [This one's a killer]

The Certification Lab Exam can have on it any of the prerequisites for RHCE, plus everything covered during the four days of RHCE training and lab workshops.

You get fed at the workshops. But if you really want to go after this, try to get some real-life RH experience, even if it is just at a home net and learn as much as you can about RH before attempting the courses. This is not CompTIA or M$ type exams . . . a LOT is demanded of you here . . . you really have to demonstrate that you can handle a Linux net in real-life situations. I suggest playing around with RH on your own for a while . . . not serious study at first, just learning how to use it and gradually acclimating yourself to the OS, how it works . . . like driving a new car, try to get an instinctive "feel" for the system. Then once you are comfortable start studying. I found preparing for the exam took less hard work and more "hard play" . . . it can be a good bit of fun, but you must be presistent and prepared. I would say you should spend like a year or so getting familiar with Linux and studying, more if you have no real experience, and for the exam, focus in on the troubleshooting section, as that was definitely the hardest. If you need to know anymore, please don't hesitate to ask.
kiwini

2001-05-07, 9:33 pm

Thanks a lot for the info, dude. I appreciate the time aned effort you spent.

Hands on testing. Radical, but cool. Just like a real-life pressure cooker when a System goes down. Gets rid of the sandbaggers, huh.

So what was the cost for all of that?
imran1430

2001-05-07, 10:52 pm

thanks for the info Randy!

I am gonna have a lot of fun with this UNIX and Cisco combination track of mine.
Randy

2001-05-08, 5:27 am

quote:
Originally posted by kiwini
Thanks a lot for the info, dude. I appreciate the time aned effort you spent.

Hands on testing. Radical, but cool. Just like a real-life pressure cooker when a System goes down. Gets rid of the sandbaggers, huh.

So what was the cost for all of that?



3, 000 bucks. 745 for the tests and the rest was for the courses. It sounds like a lot, but it was actually a very good deal . . . the courses really teach you a lot . . . and the cash expense rather forces you to KNOW your stuff before attempting it. If you can get an employer to help you, it might be a little more bearable, but you'll need basically a work week's leave.
Randy

2001-05-08, 5:28 am

quote:
Originally posted by imran1430
thanks for the info Randy!

I am gonna have a lot of fun with this UNIX and Cisco combination track of mine.



Hey, you can't beat *nix and Cisco . . . just ask ccieToBe!
ccieToBe

2001-05-08, 5:02 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Randy


Hey, you can't beat *nix and Cisco . . . just ask ccieToBe!



What else is there?

RHCE looks tempting. I wasn't planning on going for any Linux/Unix certs, but any certification that involves a tough lab has got to be worth a lot. I may go for it after finishing the CC*Ps exams
Randy

2001-05-08, 5:34 pm

Man, by the time you're 22, employers are gonna kill to get you into their org, lol! It's a great test of your ability and it can give you the confidence of knowing that you know what you are doing, and we all know what the most common web servers run . . . in lieu of any BSD certs, this is the best thing we havem certianly the most comprehensive. And there is NO FAKING it on this exam on this one and I assume, the CCIE, you really have to KNOW your stuff, not something the braindump-kiddies can swing. Let me know if I can be of any aid when you've done with your CCIE.
ccieToBe

2001-05-08, 6:09 pm

Thanks Randy, I hope you're right. The CCIE lab's a long ways off for me; probably around three years assuming I can get a more relevent job in the near future.

How much of the knowledge needed to become a RHCE is RedHat specific as opposed to universal Linux knowledge?
Kasor

2001-05-08, 7:38 pm

RHCE is expensive.....

My friend failed his exam 2 months ago..
It was hard, he told me that not only the material but also the knowledge that required you to think hard...

If you don't have experience on the linux and very good at UNIX...

Something that really offer for professional skill...
Randy

2001-05-08, 8:54 pm

quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe
How much of the knowledge needed to become a RHCE is RedHat specific as opposed to universal Linux knowledge?


Well, the good thing about the Linuces is that they are all basically Linux under the hood, so any Linux experience will help you a lot, but a great deal of it is Red Hat specific . . . I must empahsise though, that before I began my RH specific studying I used Debian, Slackware, Caldera, BSD, SysV, Solaris (just a dab), a little Mandrake and SuSe. So I had a good general knowlegde. Personally I find Caldera and Mandrake better than RH, and I prefer Slack and Debian to them all. But the RH is the only really comprehensive program so I learned it. RH is more similar to SysV than BSD and looks a little more streamlined than the distros I prefer, but any intimate knowledhe of UNIX will help you immensely.
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