Oracle certifications - My exam was re-scheduled by Prometric. Will I still be extempted from 9i OCP ILT req?

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My exam was re-scheduled by Prometric. Will I still be extempted from 9i OCP ILT req?

serge_k

2002-09-01, 6:35 am

Greetings to anyone reading this.

I suspect that Oracle eyes & ears are monitoring these groups in some way.
Maybe anybody announces official Oracle position for these cases?

To obtain OCP 9i certificate on old conditions, I have successfully passed 1Z0-001 and 1Z0-031 tests in August, and registered for 1Z0-032 test at Tuesday, August 27. The test was scheduled to take recent Friday, August 30, therefore complying with Oracle requirements stated on their site.

Appearing to take test at Friday August 30, I was informed that due to bank transfer delay of payment from local Prometric Test center to Prometric itself, my exam date was not approved by Prometric, and actually re-scheduled to later date, until money transfer is confirmed. There are no other test centers around, so there was no way out but to agree.

I could not get answer on question "Which candidate step Oracle treats as deadline for couseware extemption?" anywhere. Even two pages on Oracle site explain this in ambiguous manner:
http://www.oracle.com/education/cer...seannounce.html tells about "...starting on the Oracle9i DBA Certified Professional credential exam path", while http://www.oracle.com/education/cer...se_newdate.html states "...have taken at least one exam in the Oracle 9i DBA track" (not mentionong OCP, this makes things different).
So, can anyone closer to root sources comment this?

What steps should I take (proofs save or questions ask) to keep old conditions?
If that's definitely not possible and Oracle official position is "let looser cry", then it is neither my fault, nor local test
center. It's either bank delay or Prometric reception overload.
And whom shall I sue for these extra $1500 which I have to spend in this case?

Sincerely,
Serge K
(anonymous only for other anonyms)

Margus

2002-09-01, 12:21 pm

Well I called to Oracle about this new requirement (and it seems You have nothing to worry about) - You have to schedule at least 1 exam b4 1st-sep to be freed from ILT requirement;
Since You have passed 2 exams dont worry!

serge_k

2002-09-01, 3:44 pm

Thanks for reply Margus.

You know, "anything that could be understood wrong, will be understood wrong" so I would like to be sure there is no soil for ambiguity anymore.

I see you're OCA, like me. Does it mean you were worrying about your similar case?
Did they reply certainly about passing OCA exams is enough, or without details? Local Oracle repr in my country can't explain it crearly. Could it appear that they mean, say, pass OCP exam (1z0-032) when you think they mean OCA (001/007 and 031) ? Did they say it certain?

Regards,
Serge
(Minsk, Belarus)

melissa4

2002-09-02, 5:30 am

Hey, I had a look at the Oracle site on this and from what I take of it, is that as long as you pass one of the Oracle9i exams, doesn't matter which one, you are excluded from doing the new requirements as long as the exam was completed and passed by September 01, 2002. So, you are save.

serge_k

2002-09-02, 6:25 am

Thanks for replying, Melissa.

Completely safe we'll be only in grave, and even here there are exceptions ;-)
I've read all what possible about it, and as anbiguity still exists, I'll be sure only when someone announcess Oracle view officially, or someone passes last two OCP exams in September (like me planning) and announces certificate reception. Until that I'll be preparing to exam and to worse scenario.
Nevertheless -- again, thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Serge

Margus

2002-09-02, 10:22 am

Lets hope that this is the last ridiculous new (expensive) requirement Oracle comes up with for 9i DBAs...
Wouldnt like to see for an example if You have to pay for taking 1z0-033 and getting OCP like another 2000$...

And I still dont get what is this thing about DBA master business --> You just have to pay 2000$ for the course but no exam?
Sound silly to me...

serge_k

2002-09-02, 12:29 pm

Don't even dream to hope.
No way and no ground.
You'll definitely see it in future. Why not?
As population grows, money is not enough for all, and printing money is crime, so anyone seeks for way to print money legally. Oracle is no exception, this is business, they make money from anything when possible. Do you see way to change it? I don't see.

So anyone tries to do something like that. Split one cheap/free service to many free and paid. Promote things that cost you little but which you sell expensive, and suspend opposite. Sell air under label of "right of using intellectual property-based products". Add hidden costs and make everyone believe there's no way but to pay and then add that costs to their prices, and so the circle closes.... This is all called increasing revenues, and that looks like a global pyramide. That shouldn't hurt, because that's is life itself.

Yes, Oracle master degree requires two expensive courses plus two-day in-class RedHat+Oracle workshop which is also cost, maybe 3000? (check Oracle site for details). In fact this is a normal practical exam.

But why you say that's stupid? I see nothing stupid there, it's just business approach in the place where you don't expect it. Get, owe, save money, invest them (into exams and higher status), get higher salary, return money, repeat until end of your life.
Don't like this? Don't participate, live on 100$ per month and try to ignore expensive matters of life. Many people live happily with it, while they don't see commercial ads ;-)

Best regards,
Serge

Margus

2002-09-02, 12:49 pm

I understand that its the way Oracle is doing business and I didnt say its a stupid way - I sayd that its kind of silly and greedy way doing business.
It monopolizes the teaching business for Oracle Database- that You have to take very expensive courses in Oracle - I attend regular Computer institue and price for the course is about 4 times cheaper

vcr

2002-09-07, 9:03 am

I have checked this n number of times and the relevant part of their announcement is reproduced below;

"Candidates who have already taken at least one exam in the Oracle9i DBA track prior to September 1st will not be required to meet the new instructor-led course requirement. "

Please note the one exam in the 9i DBA track includes IZ0-001. So even candidates with the Dev OCP track who have passed IZO-001 before 1st Sep, can give the 9iDBA exams without the ILT requirement.

Regards,
VCR

Anyone has anything to say on this most welcome. I include our guests from Oracle who might be monitoring this site.

freddiebeach

2002-09-12, 6:41 am

Hi all,

I agree with VCR, as long as you have one exam before Sept 1 you are excempt from the ILT requirement.

T

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