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| milyn15 2002-04-08, 11:15 am |
| Hi all,
I passed all my Oracle 8i DBA exams. That all looks good -- ON PAPER. However, the only database experience I have was what I learned in my courses. Moreover, I did do MS Access 97/VBA development for 18 months (dead-end job). I have been practicing my SQL (8i/9i) and PL/SQL. It is hoped that I can get some entry-level DBA position (is there such a thing?) | |
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| congrats mate. I'm facing the same thing soon as I have to return to London and try and get my foot in the door somewhere. I don't rate my chances to be honest as there isn't alot out there as far as I can see.
Good Luck | |
| stecal 2002-04-11, 10:06 am |
| With the way the market is today, you need 2-3 years of experience to be considered a viable candidate for a junior DBA position, and even with that, you need more than DBA skills (UNIX admin, NT admin, programming, Forms/Reports, etc.). Help desk/software testing are two entry-level gateways. The hardest part is getting into the field. After that, get all the experience you can and do more than what is expected (which is good advice for any job).
The OCP associate and its predecessor, the DBO, is a joke. No one hires anyone for anything like that. They do look good as far as showing that you've learned something, but good luck ever finding a posting on any job web site that asks for a certified DBO or associate. | |
| aneesh_bhatia 2002-04-12, 2:28 pm |
| stecal...man that sounds depressing!! is that also the case with Oracle Developers. Does it matter if one has a MS...or no one really cares about it?!?!
Cheers! | |
| stecal 2002-04-12, 3:44 pm |
| From what I have seen, having an MS really helps a lot for getting a job. General salary range is between mid-40's to mid-50's with no experience (but then, you have to have the magic "J" word or magic "X" words - Java and XML).
The Developer track, to me, anyway, seems like less of a redheaded stepchild than DBO does. Job ads for Developer mainly ask for experience and don't ask for certification very often. Developer pay is pretty good, but it is hard to learn and even harder to get into that specialty (a lot like COBOL). You also have to consider what it is you are going to learn and how useful it is going to be in three years. That's about when support for Forms 6i ends. Oracle Corp is all about 9iAS (internet application server) now - web-based deployment of forms and reports - but not looking like forms and reports as you know them today.
I'm not saying doing the Developer track is not worthwhile, but by the time you get a real good handle on it (it takes a couple of years), it is going to go away.
The three up and coming areas, IMHO, are XML, 9iAS, and RAC. You also need UNIX SA and NT/2000 admin skills, and these are expected skills, not extras.
It's not all gloom and doom, but the days of walking into a DBA job right off the street are long gone (they didn't really exist anyway). Being certified is going to be more of a discriminator (going from "oh, that looks nice" to "why aren't you certified?"). |
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