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NetCat

2002-03-27, 6:46 pm

I'm living in France at the moment. I'm OCP DBA 8 + MCSE2000.

Junior DBA jobs and Junior Oracle Developer programming jobs here are rare and salaries are ridiculous.

Standard salary for entry Oracle jobs in France (according to my research, interviews, etc.): US$10500..US$16000 per year max, with monthly salary around US$850 ... RIDICULOUS

I feel bad when I read posts from US guys saying ... "Hey, I am 24 and I'm making $35000/year, I'm an underpaid A+ CCNA MCP professional that's all, no degree"

Here in my country, A+ N+ etc. are nothing... CCNA is nothing (most networking jobs: CCNP or higher required with 4 years experience or more) MCP is nothing (and MCSE2000 is HIGHLY undervalued)... Oracle cert is OK, recognized, but salary is very poor

Lots of temp jobs but I hate temp jobs... and imagine the salaries on those temp jobs... RIDICULOUS, laughable

I think I wasted a lot of money on the MCSE because employers here (some interviews) don't care about my MCSE... really, it's a shame, they only care about:

#1 your degrees
#2 experience
#3 major certs (OCP, CCNP, SCJP, SCSA, etc.)... MCSE highly undervalued and MCSA is "unknown" here

Lots of job offers for SAP people... with salaries around $18000/year but SAP is too big, and obscure. I purchased one of those "Teach yourself SAP Administration"... horrible, complex, too many different modules and stuff. I have 0 experience with SAP, so SAP jobs are not for me

I would like to know if this IT job salary scenario is similar in other European countries (Germany, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Austria, etc.)
Ian_J

2002-03-27, 7:38 pm

Salaries are good in London. The market is a bit dead right now but the salaries are ok. My wife started her first MCSE job last year with a starting salary of 24,000GBP p/a and most Junior DBA jobs (up to one year experience) pay around the same.
laloca

2002-03-28, 4:23 am

Hi all,

interesting thread

Which salary do you all provide? Is it before or after taxes/social security? In Austria these deductions are about 30 - 40 % of a monthly salary (depending on the salary). If you negotiate a monthly salary of 3.200 EUR you get transfered only 2.150 EUR - 14 times a year.

Job situation here gets better and better every week. I get 5-8 job ads per week from www.jobpilot.com - mostly developers or junior DBA positions. But you need also Java, C++, Perl .... skills - my weakest point. At least Unix AND WinNT/2000/NET.

Very few senior positions (I assume they are provided by personell consultants). But its a "buyers" market actually - not as good salaries as 1-2 years ago.
Tarrydba

2002-04-04, 7:13 am

That's a little too loa a salary to offer,
i mean it's les than min wages??!!
AndyC

2002-04-05, 12:16 pm

quote:
Salaries are good in London.


Fcking hell, what company are you working for?..mine is shite for what I do.

I did a salary comparison the other week with some job site and apparently I am earning £15-20k less than what I should be
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